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tanmoy_Siliguri

In The Gaming Heaven
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I am taking ATI HD 4670 graphics card....so if I have to upgrade my PSU,can a 500watt PSU will be sufficient for that..my budget is 1.2k.........
 

gump

Broken In
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i have a 8600 GT 256mb graphics card.... is this enough or should i upgrade ?

usage is to play latest games...

please help
 

ultimategpu

AMD & ATI FANBOY
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i have a 8600 GT 256mb graphics card.... is this enough or should i upgrade ?

usage is to play latest games...

please help


8600 gt is the old hot stove and it is not much faster to play games in the high resolution ------------> the upcoming games like NFS-undercover,GTA-4

needs atleast 9600gt ,,, so go for it

thats coz 9600GT beats HD4670.....

@ultimategpu

Your fanboyism wont save any company dude......no offences but dont be so biased :|

man i am not talking about the 4670 :mad:

i am telling only 4850 and 4870

8800gt,9800gt,9800gtx,9800gtx+,8800ultra ------------> these all cards fails with 4850

9800gtx+,260gtx,8800gtx,280gtx ----------------->fails with 4870

9800gx2,gtx280 -----------> fails with 4870x2


and onething there no nvidia cards is there to compare with 4870x2

see if u say that 4870x2 fails with any card ,,,, is there anyone belive this :eek::eek::eek:
 
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tkin

Back to school!!
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8600 gt is the old hot stove and it is not much faster to play games in the high resolution ------------> the upcoming games like NFS-undercover,GTA-4

needs atleast 9600gt ,,, so go for it



man i am not talking about the 4670 :mad:

i am telling only 4850 and 4870

8800gt,9800gt,9800gtx,9800gtx+,8800ultra ------------> these all cards fails with 4850

9800gtx+,260gtx,8800gtx,280gtx ----------------->fails with 4870

9800gx2,gtx280 -----------> fails with 4870x2


and onething there no nvidia cards is there to compare with 4870x2

see if u say that 4870x2 fails with any card ,,,, is there anyone belive this :eek::eek::eek:
HD4870x2 is good card no doubt, but generates a lot of heat, and requires enormous amounts of power to run, I prefer a HD4870 over HD4870x2 any day, HD4870x2 doesn't look that interesting and its really not worth it.

The performance increase of HD4870x2 over HD4870 is NOT worth 10k for sure. In most games the increase is really small.
 

ultimategpu

AMD & ATI FANBOY
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HD4870x2 is good card no doubt, but generates a lot of heat, and requires enormous amounts of power to run, I prefer a HD4870 over HD4870x2 any day, HD4870x2 doesn't look that interesting and its really not worth it.

The performance increase of HD4870x2 over HD4870 is NOT worth 10k for sure. In most games the increase is really small.

i agree with u , that it needs minimun of 750 watts to run good , and need updated bios and special cooler , there is one more thing RV770 chipset is a boiler and dont forget that it is the power full chipset that made nvidia chipset back forward:idea:
 

Plasma_Snake

Indidiot
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8800gt,9800gt,9800gtx,9800gtx+,8800ultra ------------> these all cards fails with 4850

9800gtx+,260gtx,8800gtx,280gtx ----------------->fails with 4870

9800gx2,gtx280 -----------> fails with 4870x2


and onething there no nvidia cards is there to compare with 4870x2

see if u say that 4870x2 fails with any card ,,,, is there anyone belive this :eek::eek::eek:
Man I dunno where u get ur Intel from but it is F'd up big time. 4870X2 better than GTX280, come on, u must be outta ur mind or lost ur marbles.
With 1.4 billion transistors on a single die, GTX280 is the biggest and meanest bada$$ in the GPU community today. Sure HD4870X2 beats GTX 280 but it takes 2 of the Reds to gang up and beat down onw single GTX280. The default single chip HD4870 was never aimed at competing with GTX280, it was lucky enough to match GTX260 in most of the benchmarking tests. What if Nvidia rolls out GTX280X2 or GTX260X2 tomorrow, what do you think is gonna happen to HD4*** series?
This time where Nvidia went wrong was their pricing. ATi cards were cheaper and here we always go for "Sasta", whether it may or may not be "Sunder" and "Tikaoo", just like XBOX360. HD4850 is nothing more than a highly OCed 8800GT and the fact that latter card came almost a year before, HD4850 had time to incorporate DX10.1 and SM 4.0 in it.
This is was just general rambling, lets talk figures now.
The GTX200 series GPUs have 1.4billion transistors on a single die making them even more faster and better than your average dual Core processors.
GTX280 has:

  1. Peak pixel fillrate-19.3 billion pixels per second!
  2. Peak texels fillrate-48.2 billion texels per second.
  3. Bandwidth-141.7GBps (VRAM is GDDR3)
  4. SP count-240
  5. Texture Units-80
  6. Raster Operators-32
ATi may have jumped on to GDDR5 bandwagon to show how advanced they are but to consider GDDR5 as the best thing ever to happen to a GPU is pure n00bish. A friend of mine, who was employed in RAMDAC and also had chance to work on PS3's RAM made it clear that next VRAM generation isn't going to belong to GDDR3 or GDDR5, it belongs to XDR who's production cost is just 20cents a unit right now.
Look I ain't here to teach or preach so just grab the copies of August and September issues of Digit to know more about memory and GPU architectures. As for comparing these cards is concerned, why don't you leave it to Pros and see what they Say about it.

  1. HD4870X2 vs GTX280
  2. HD4870 1GB
  3. HD4850
If you are still unable to understand what those reviews say, Use Google Translate!
Even if that also fails well then, Lord save you Boy! :cool:

BTW guys look at my GPUz screenshot and look at it very carefully. I think something's wrong with it, I mean the software, as my card is working just fine.
*img224.imageshack.us/img224/401/gpuztm9.th.jpg*img224.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
 
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ultimategpu

AMD & ATI FANBOY
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Man I dunno where u get ur Intel from but it is F'd up big time. 4870X2 better than GTX280, come on, u must be outta ur mind or lost ur marbles.
With 1.4 billion transistors on a single die, GTX280 is the biggest and meanest bada$$ in the GPU community today. Sure HD4870X2 beats GTX 280 but it takes 2 of the Reds to gang up and beat down onw single GTX280. The default single chip HD4870 was never aimed at competing with GTX280, it was lucky enough to match GTX260 in most of the benchmarking tests. What if Nvidia rolls out GTX280X2 or GTX260X2 tomorrow, what do you think is gonna happen to HD4*** series?
This time where Nvidia went wrong was their pricing. ATi cards were cheaper and here we always go for "Sasta", whether it may or may not be "Sunder" and "Tikaoo", just like XBOX360. HD4850 is nothing more than a highly OCed 8800GT and the fact that latter card came almost a year before, HD4850 had time to incorporate DX10.1 and SM 4.0 in it.
This is was just general rambling, lets talk figures now.
The GTX200 series GPUs have 1.4billion transistors on a single die making them even more faster and better than your average dual Core processors.
GTX280 has:

  1. Peak pixel fillrate-19.3 billion pixels per second!
  2. Peak texels fillrate-48.2 billion texels per second.
  3. Bandwidth-141.7GBps (VRAM is GDDR3)
  4. SP count-240
  5. Texture Units-80
  6. Raster Operators-32
ATi may have jumped on to GDDR5 bandwagon to show how advanced they are but to consider GDDR5 as the best thing ever to happen to a GPU is pure n00bish. A friend of mine, who was employed in RAMDAC and also had chance to work on PS3's RAM made it clear that next VRAM generation isn't going to belong to GDDR3 or GDDR5, it belongs to XDR who's production cost is just 20cents a unit right now.
Look I ain't here to teach or preach so just grab the copies of August and September issues of Digit to know more about memory and GPU architectures. As for comparing these cards is concerned, why don't you leave it to Pros and see what they Say about it.

  1. HD4870X2 vs GTX280
  2. HD4870 1GB
  3. HD4850
If you are still unable to understand what those reviews say, Use Google Translate!
Even if that also fails well then, Lord save you Boy! :cool:

BTW guys look at my GPUz screenshot and look at it very carefully. I think something's wrong with it, I mean the software, as my card is working just fine.
*img224.imageshack.us/img224/401/gpuztm9.th.jpg*img224.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif


i too say that 4870x2 is best but u need more than the power requirement for 280gtx
 

Jack Carvar

Broken In
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8600 gt is the old hot stove and it is not much faster to play games in the high resolution ------------> the upcoming games like NFS-undercover,GTA-4

needs atleast 9600gt ,,, so go for it



man i am not talking about the 4670 :mad:

i am telling only 4850 and 4870

8800gt,9800gt,9800gtx,9800gtx+,8800ultra ------------> these all cards fails with 4850

9800gtx+,260gtx,8800gtx,280gtx ----------------->fails with 4870

9800gx2,gtx280 -----------> fails with 4870x2


and onething there no nvidia cards is there to compare with 4870x2

see if u say that 4870x2 fails with any card ,,,, is there anyone belive this :eek::eek::eek:

You said 4xxx series beats every NVIDIA card in their range. 4xxx series covers HD4670 and HD4650 which were an epic phail against 9600GT. Sure, 9800GX2 is beaten by HD4870x2 but still search Google about GTX280 vs HD4870x2. On chart specs and ingame performance differ a LOT. See, HD3870 had such fine specs on charts but it was just another phail. Same was 3870x2. HD4870x2 is technically seen and recognized as a Crossfire GPU and bcoz of incompatible drivers and lack of support it performs lower than GTX280 in most games. GTX280 is still the fastest single GPU card on Earth. And even if HD4870x2 HAD been successful in some how beating it, the succes would have not been counted bcoz HD4870x2 is a dual GPU and GTX280 is a single GPU. The HD4870x2 generates a lot of heat on stock clocks so forget OC'ing without expensive cooling. All in all, GTX280 is a better buy than a HD4870x2. I wont argue with you further coz you are a fanboi (I advise others to do the same :razz:).

i too say that 4870x2 is best but u need more than the power requirement for 280gtx

Learn to comprehend. He never said that HD4870x2 is the and GTX280's power requirment is more. He said that GTX280 is the best and HD4870x2's power requirement is too much. :|
 
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Vaibhav Bishnoi

Broken In
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Hi, I just joined Digit .
i wanted to know whether my mobo Intel D945GCNL would be compatible with Palit 9600 GT 1GB sonic. And will it require any PSU ???????
Thanx
 

ultimategpu

AMD & ATI FANBOY
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Hi, I just joined Digit .
i wanted to know whether my mobo Intel D945GCNL would be compatible with Palit 9600 GT 1GB sonic. And will it require any PSU ???????
Thanx

good congs on your joining , 9600gt can do it on ur mobo , but its pcie*16 so u get less memory bandwidth , u need 2*pcie*16 k for full bandwidth then truly u need 450/500 watts good psu ------------>which proc are u using

You said 4xxx series beats every NVIDIA card in their range. 4xxx series covers HD4670 and HD4650 which were an epic phail against 9600GT. Sure, 9800GX2 is beaten by HD4870x2 but still search Google about GTX280 vs HD4870x2. On chart specs and ingame performance differ a LOT. See, HD3870 had such fine specs on charts but it was just another phail. Same was 3870x2. HD4870x2 is technically seen and recognized as a Crossfire GPU and bcoz of incompatible drivers and lack of support it performs lower than GTX280 in most games. GTX280 is still the fastest single GPU card on Earth. And even if HD4870x2 HAD been successful in some how beating it, the succes would have not been counted bcoz HD4870x2 is a dual GPU and GTX280 is a single GPU. The HD4870x2 generates a lot of heat on stock clocks so forget OC'ing without expensive cooling. All in all, GTX280 is a better buy than a HD4870x2. I wont argue with you further coz you are a fanboi (I advise others to do the same :razz:).



Learn to comprehend. He never said that HD4870x2 is the and GTX280's power requirment is more. He said that GTX280 is the best and HD4870x2's power requirement is too much. :|


see i am not telling without a proof ok

i can show the site which all sites show that 4870x2 is best ,,:-| problem with over heat and more power

but a single Rv770 can perform equal to gtx260 means , two gpu of 4870x2 can do as much as it can but the maintenance is much costlier than gtx280 , i can agree

here is proof
*www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3372&p=6 --------->crysis

*www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hard...deon-hd-4870-x2-2gb-video-card-review-14.html ------------> devil maycry 4

*www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hard...deon-hd-4870-x2-2gb-video-card-review-11.html ------------> 3d mark 06

*www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hard...deon-hd-4870-x2-2gb-video-card-review-17.html -------------->call of duty 4

anything to say after reviewing this , actually i am not a fan boy of ati , before i was using 8800gt u know i was irritated i cannot play crysis full setting @ high 1280*1024

now i have hd4850 it is the card i was waiting for it can handle all games in very high only i dont do any overclock ,, its superb

so think about this review graphics card are mainly meant for games

so 280gtx fails in all games with 4870x2 means any other thing that 280gtx wins :D:D:D

 
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Jack Carvar

Broken In
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^Is it ? I am played Crysis and Crysis Warhead on all High with no AA @1440x900 res with 36FPS avg. I call it very playable. Go read Tom's Hardware, Guru3d and Anand Tech review and ya, dont make wrong claims.

And its PCIex16 2.0 and no 2*PCIe*16........coz 2*PCIe*16 means 2 slots which is required for SLi. Get your things right dude. Being a fanboy wont solve problems.
 

ultimategpu

AMD & ATI FANBOY
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^Is it ? I am played Crysis and Crysis Warhead on all High with no AA @1440x900 res with 36FPS avg. I call it very playable. Go read Tom's Hardware, Guru3d and Anand Tech review and ya, dont make wrong claims.

And its PCIex16 2.0 and no 2*PCIe*16........coz 2*PCIe*16 means 2 slots which is required for SLi. Get your things right dude. Being a fanboy wont solve problems.

hey ok ----> its not up to you and me ... lets ask forum guys ----------> you start thread


and for 2*pcie*16 -------> sorry i typed fast ok , so missed the point ok
 

Vaibhav Bishnoi

Broken In
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Dude ya all being tellin 4870x2 280GTx da best and stuff. But I have limited cash, these graphics cards are pretty sick but also costly. suggest something b/w 6000-7000 to run games like undercover, GTA4.... &&& will PALIT 9600 Gt 1GB Sonic can cope up (got 700 Mhz core clock and 1024MB GDDR3 memory)
How much will it cost if I buy from nehru place??/
 

Jack Carvar

Broken In
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Dunno 1gB price but for 6k-7k, go for the 9600GT. Its good. eVGA has an factory OC version for 6.8-7k.
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
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^^ Palit 9600GT 1GB DDR3 Sonic - 8.5k
Palit 9600GT 512MB DDR3 - 6.6k
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB DDR3 - 5.8k

My option should be 512MB DDR3 coz its VFM and instead of getting 9600GT 1GB DDR3 for 8.5k, u may get Palit HD4850 for just 1000 bucks more, which beats the 96GT black and blue in every game...:D
 

Vaibhav Bishnoi

Broken In
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Hey thanks for da advise. which model you meant
Radeon™ HD 4850 1GB Sonic
or
Radeon™ HD 4850 Sonic
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
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^^ Palit HD4850 512MB DDR3 - 9.5k
Palit HD4850 Sonic 512MB DDR3 - 11.4k

Dunno abt 1GB:)confused:) DDR3 Sonic.....
 

ultimategpu

AMD & ATI FANBOY
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Hey thanks for da advise. which model you meant
Radeon™ HD 4850 1GB Sonic
or
Radeon™ HD 4850 Sonic


hey dude , yeah HD4850 is 25%-30% much faster than the 9600gt and if u crossfire it with another HD 4850 it beats 280gtx --!!!

spending 1.5k more on the HD 4850 worth ur future , then have to get good psu if it is 9600gt or HD4850

cooler master 600 watts extreme power ----> 3.5k (which i use ):)

corsair 450 watts -------------> 4.1k (good for single HD 4850)

cooler master 500 watts extreme power ---------------> 2.7k
 

Jack Carvar

Broken In
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hey dude , yeah HD4850 is 25%-30% much faster than the 9600gt and if u crossfire it with another HD 4850 it beats 280gtx --!!!

spending 1.5k more on the HD 4850 worth ur future , then have to get good psu if it is 9600gt or HD4850

cooler master 600 watts extreme power ----> 3.5k (which i use ):)

corsair 450 watts -------------> 4.1k (good for single HD 4850)

cooler master 500 watts extreme power ---------------> 2.7k

No comments on that sentence but I smell something wrong....but well, I wont argue with u.

HD4850 is sure a better buy than 9600GT.
 
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