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sidewinder · Aug 26, 2005

Re: Help Me chhosing Gfx card.

sidewinder said:
Guys I need a bit of help this time. I am going to assemble a midrange computer for my brother and the alloted budget for graphics card is rs 3k-3.5k. So I have only three choices in this price range.
1.XFX Fx 5700 128 MB 128 bit agp 8x
2.XFX 6200 128 MB 128 bit. agp 8x
3.Asus Rdeon 9600 128bit 128 MB.
But I cant decide between this two.So help me choosing.

As far I know the specs of these cards are as follows........
Fx 5700 Core clock 425 Mhz
Memory Clock 600 mhz.
Memory Bandwidth 9.6 gb/s
Pixel/clock 4
Direct x Support 9.0
...
Nvidia 6200.. Core clock 300 Mhz
Memory Clock 552 mhz
Memory Bandwidth 8.83 gb/s
Pixel/clock 4
Direct x support 9.0c
ATI Radeon 9600
Core clock 325 Mhz.
Memory Clock 400 Mhz
Memory Bandwidth 9.2gb/s
Pixel /clock 4
Direct x support 9.0

Price : Fx 5700 = Rs 3100
6200 = Rs.3200.
ATi 9600 = Rs.3600

But the problem is this 6200 seems to be more feature rich than 5700 which is I think relaively powerful card. 6200 supports pixel shader 3.0 as opposed to v2.0 in 5700.. Also there will be hardware support for the upcoming windows vista UI in 6200 where fx 5700 will only give software support.6200 is also less power hungry.
On the other hand Fx 5700 is a more powerful card and a bit cheaper too.(I've seen a 5700 running NFS 2 UG @ 1024*768 with 2x AA nd 4x AF where 6200 cant even manage 800*600 with AA nd AF turned on)
I personally dont like ATi because their's driver is not as good as Nvidia nd sometimes creates problem...
So what should I choose? Plz suggest.
Plz dont post things like "increase ur budget nd get 6600" coz I cant expand my budget anymore.
Thnx in advance..

To the mods....
i 've posted it as a separate thread coz otherwise it will be lost in this sticky nd I want specific suggestions from other users.
So plz consider allowing it to be a separate thread...

asdf1223 · Aug 26, 2005

if u want a clock that purely performs get a 9600xt.but if u can get a 6200 128 bit card its very good.

sidewinder · Aug 26, 2005

asdf1223 said:
if u want a clock that purely performs get a 9600xt.but if u can get a 6200 128 bit card its very good.

Buudy even 9600 normal costs 3600+tax.I dont think I can afford a xt

samanvya_ad · Aug 27, 2005

hi......... I am new here but not new to computer games.
i need to assemble a PC for normal word processor type work and occasional gaming( since i am in a law school and rarely do i get time to play). i have decided a configuratio but i am yet not sure about motherboards. help me...

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
???????? 939 pin nforce4 motherboard ????????(help me, not mor than 5000 bucks)
HDD 160 GB
RAM- 512 Mb (400 Mhz)
15" monitor (due to limited budget)
XFX 6600GT
any decent cabinet with 400W power suply
keyboard/mouse/any normal speakers( i said-limited budget)
DVD rom drive( i have spare cd writer)
(no ups,printer--- budget problem)

so is this configuration fine....?
i need help on motherboard.... many said that a gigabyte nforce 4 one is fine, cos in my city(lucknow n jodhpur) dealers generally keep gigabyte n Asus and don't keep things like winfast etc...
so............? i personally don think asus gives that good a performance,,?

dd1907 · Aug 27, 2005

upgrade problem

i have a PIV ibm computer and configration is mobo intel 845 ,sd ram 256 ,agp 4x ,32 mb sis graphic card now i want to upgrade it i want to know wheather i can install decent graphic card(is their any good 4x agp card avilable) to play recent games like half life 2 in any way with this mobo or i have to upgrade my mobo. in that case wheather i can install my existing component on new motherboard also tell me about the needed hardware(reasonable price) and their prevaling price thanks in advance.my budget is RS8000

cyrux · Aug 27, 2005

Look ...first of all its not necessary that you go for the 4x AGP card. All 8x AGP cards are backward compatible that is they fit and work on you 4x AGP card.

Regarding the range you said you can get a 6600 NON-GT. I am not sure it this card comes in AGP mode too ( i m bit novice at this)

sidewinder · Aug 27, 2005

samanvya_ad said:
hi......... I am new here but not new to computer games.
i need to assemble a PC for normal word processor type work and occasional gaming( since i am in a law school and rarely do i get time to play). i have decided a configuratio but i am yet not sure about motherboards. help me...

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
???????? 939 pin nforce4 motherboard ????????(help me, not mor than 5000 bucks)
HDD 160 GB
RAM- 512 Mb (400 Mhz)
15" monitor (due to limited budget)
XFX 6600GT
any decent cabinet with 400W power suply
keyboard/mouse/any normal speakers( i said-limited budget)
DVD rom drive( i have spare cd writer)
(no ups,printer--- budget problem)

so is this configuration fine....?
i need help on motherboard.... many said that a gigabyte nforce 4 one is fine, cos in my city(lucknow n jodhpur) dealers generally keep gigabyte n Asus and don't keep things like winfast etc...
so............? i personally don think asus gives that good a performance,,?

N force 4 @ 5 k!!!!! Very hard to get...
Look for cheaper brands such as mercury or gigabyte
Asus available for 6.5 k nd msi for 6k.Check out the model number

anubhav_har · Aug 28, 2005

hey man someonee posted that fx5200 is 256mb ram... no its 128mb.. jsut to correct em...

supersaiyan · Aug 28, 2005

get a 6200 sidewinder. it will be better cause its a new generation gfx card.

mad_crazyboys · Aug 28, 2005

a graphic card

can any one suggest a pci express graphic card for 915 gav mother board at price range of 5- 10k[/b]

QwertyManiac · Aug 28, 2005

this shud be in hardware reviews...

search bfore u post as this has been discussed several times...

expertno.1 · Aug 29, 2005

ok now i want on ein around 10 k

so that i can play all games and also doom3 wellly

teknoPhobia · Aug 29, 2005

@ sidewinder

xfx 6200a agp 128 mb is around 4k. Core 350mhz, memory 400 mhz 64 bit. In 3dmark 2k5 pixel shader test, it gives bout 50 - 55 fps in 640x480 whereas the 5900xt gives about 35 -40. Stay away from the 5700, all the GF 5 series cards suck at rendering shader models 2 and up. I have tried out everything from the 5200 to the 6600GT on my comp, currently using a 5900xt. My config is athlon 64 2800, msi k8mmv, 512 mb hynix d43, 18gb cheetah on a buslogic scsi card. Also in 3dmark 2k3 the card gets bout 33% higher 3dmarks

samanvya_ad · Aug 29, 2005

alright then tell me are n force 4 based motherboards really worth buying as cheaper options are available in market with chipsets of via and ATi, i need to install 6600 GT on it and also do ASUS motherboards perform well.......

samanvya_ad · Aug 29, 2005

alright then tell me are n force 4 based motherboards really worth buying as cheaper options are available in market with chipsets of via and ATi, i need to install 6600 GT on it and also do ASUS motherboards perform well.......

sidewinder · Aug 30, 2005

teknoPhobia said:
@ sidewinder

xfx 6200a agp 128 mb is around 4k. Core 350mhz, memory 400 mhz 64 bit. In 3dmark 2k5 pixel shader test, it gives bout 50 - 55 fps in 640x480 whereas the 5900xt gives about 35 -40. Stay away from the 5700, all the GF 5 series cards suck at rendering shader models 2 and up. I have tried out everything from the 5200 to the 6600GT on my comp, currently using a 5900xt. My config is athlon 64 2800, msi k8mmv, 512 mb hynix d43, 18gb cheetah on a buslogic scsi card. Also in 3dmark 2k3 the card gets bout 33% higher 3dmarks

hey I've checked it out. 128 bit 128 mb rs 3100 nd 128 bit 256 mb rs.3750 exclusive of taxes.so it shd be around pricesmentioned+200.

Ethan_Hunt · Aug 30, 2005

anubhav_har said:
hey man someonee posted that fx5200 is 256mb ram... no its 128mb.. jsut to correct em...

Lol and where in the hell did ya pass that Judgement from? :lol:

Just so that you know the Fx5200 is available both in 128MB(128-Bit) and 256MB(256-bit) Vram versions.
Check this out for a lil update on your knowledge department
*www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/FX5200_Series.html
Next time just get your facts straight before your post.

@samanvya_ad:Its not necessary that you have to only opt for a Nforce 4 based mobo to run the 6600GT.You can very well go in for the MSI RS480M2 Based Mobo which supports all Socket 939 based AMD 64-bit CPU's as well as features a PCI-E X16 slot for a PCI-E based graphics card.It must be around 5k atleast.
Specs: *www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=639

Ringwraith · Aug 30, 2005

AFAIK there are no 256 bit memory versions of the 5200fx ( available are 128 bit and 64 bit)
allwyndlima...the "256" on the link u posted is the width of the graphics core...not the memory interface bus!

Ethan_Hunt · Aug 31, 2005

Ringwraith said:
allwyndlima...the "256" on the link u posted is the width of the graphics core...not the memory interface bus!

Wasn't referring to the interface bus in the first place buddy.This was just to show the dude that the 256MB version exists :wink:

sidewinder · Sep 1, 2005

teknoPhobia said:
@ sidewinder

xfx 6200a agp 128 mb is around 4k. Core 350mhz, memory 400 mhz 64 bit. In 3dmark 2k5 pixel shader test, it gives bout 50 - 55 fps in 640x480 whereas the 5900xt gives about 35 -40. Stay away from the 5700, all the GF 5 series cards suck at rendering shader models 2 and up. I have tried out everything from the 5200 to the 6600GT on my comp, currently using a 5900xt. My config is athlon 64 2800, msi k8mmv, 512 mb hynix d43, 18gb cheetah on a buslogic scsi card. Also in 3dmark 2k3 the card gets bout 33% higher 3dmarks

u r damn right abt this man....
Thats wherre radeon is better.. but I stll prefer nvidia
So tomorrow I m going to buy xfx 128 mb 128 bit 6200
Thx everybody

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