Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
buddy the latest version of virtu allows display to be connected to discreet card.
buddy the latest version of virtu allows display to be connected to discreet card.
Hi Jas thanks for the inputs, many reviews talk about Virtu having an overhead. as much as 30% on Dirt 2 for example. So it eats away at the fps. now the HD 6850 is VFM, but its still not Olympic. SO if I get a Z68, I don't really need Virtu ...I can always just swap the cable from the discrete graphics to the onboard and restart right?
Cilus
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As per the new Virtue standard, you can connect the output to the Gfx card as Jas mentioned. If you don't want to run Virtue, just shut it off...it is a software and if you don't want it just close it.
Your swaping will also work but that is a hard process I guess compared to disabling the Virtue software within windows.
Your swaping will also work but that is a hard process I guess compared to disabling the Virtue software within windows.
shayem
In the zone
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
that loss of fps was the case when you needed to connect the display to onboard gpu.
with new version of virtu, display is connected to discreet card. so no loss of fps.
so just enjoy virtu. no white list of games. instead you get list of supported transcoding apps.
Perfect. The Lucidlogix site isn't as helpful as you are, jas n cilus. Thanks.
Hopefully VirtualDub is in that list...
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
get this imo -
Component
|
Make
|
Price
Processor
|Intel Core i5 2500k|11000
Motherboard |Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3|11500
RAM |G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL|2600
Graphic Card |Sapphire HD6870|11200
HDD |Seagate 500GB 7200.12|1700
PSU |Corsair VX450W|3400
Case |NZXT GAMMA|2000
Monitor |Benq G2220HD|7000
| Total |47800
that price of 6870 is too good. try get it.
Motherboard |Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3|11500
RAM |G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL|2600
Graphic Card |Sapphire HD6870|11200
HDD |Seagate 500GB 7200.12|1700
PSU |Corsair VX450W|3400
Case |NZXT GAMMA|2000
Monitor |Benq G2220HD|7000
| Total |47800
that price of 6870 is too good. try get it.
I'd love to get this rig... but the total comes to 50400 not 47800, looks like u missed the ram in the total. besides, this is minus the cpu cooler.
cant fit it in the budget...
Which of these Z68 motherboards are better? (D2H, UD3H)
I really don't understand motherboard specs and the Gigabyte naming scheme (UD3, D2H, UD3H, UD4, etc...) that well. And I'm trying to see
if I can shave off some money there.
Another question I have is... Is it a good idea to go for an XFX HD 5850 at 9600/- ? Esp. since AnandTech's Bench shows that the 5850 outperforms the 6850, matches the GTX460 1 GB and nearly approaches the 6870.
5850vs6850
5850vsGTX460 1GB
5850vs6870
Is there something about the 5850 that I should know? Since no one here recommended it..
nilgtx260
Maximum Craze
HD 5850 better than a stock clocked GTX 460 but go for HD 6870 when you are spending 45K
Component Make Price
Processor Intel Core i5 2500K 10500
Motherboard GA-H67MA-UD2H 7500
RAM Corsair Vengeance (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9) 2500
HDD Seagate 1TB 7200.12 2700
GPU Sapphire HD6870 1GB 11200
PSU Corsair VX450W 3400
Case CM Elite 310 1500
Monitor Dell IN2020M 6500
KB+M logitech/microsoft 600
Total 46400
^^ this config
Processor Intel Core i5 2500K 10500
Motherboard GA-H67MA-UD2H 7500
RAM Corsair Vengeance (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9) 2500
HDD Seagate 1TB 7200.12 2700
GPU Sapphire HD6870 1GB 11200
PSU Corsair VX450W 3400
Case CM Elite 310 1500
Monitor Dell IN2020M 6500
KB+M logitech/microsoft 600
Total 46400
^^ this config
Also, though I don't know much about monitors...
from what I understand, there IS no monitor with a typical contrast of more than 1000:1
And the Dynamic contrast varies between 40,000:1 to 8,000,000:1
Two monitors with the same static contrast but different dynamic contrasts, does it make a difference to gaming OR movies?
Also, since all of you seem to be using atleast 22-inch LCDs -
Hi thanks Nil but a K proc with an H67? I can ramp down the card, but I'd like a Z68 with a Full HD monitor (Is the IN2020M full HD?)
from what I understand, there IS no monitor with a typical contrast of more than 1000:1
And the Dynamic contrast varies between 40,000:1 to 8,000,000:1
Two monitors with the same static contrast but different dynamic contrasts, does it make a difference to gaming OR movies?
Also, since all of you seem to be using atleast 22-inch LCDs -
Hi thanks Nil but a K proc with an H67? I can ramp down the card, but I'd like a Z68 with a Full HD monitor (Is the IN2020M full HD?)
Cilus
laborare est orare
harikt, you have rightly pointed out the issues with the given rig. No point to put a K series processor with a H67 mobo and the Dell monitor is not a Full HD display.
HD 5850 is based on the older architecture and that has been tuned up a lot in the BART architecture. But yes, HD 5850 offers better performance than a HD 6850 and closer to HD 6870. So at a price of 9.6K (I think you got the price from deltapage.com), surely you can go with it, if you are not bothered about the older architecture and concentrate on performance.
While finding some cheaper Z68 models from Gigabyte, I've found GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3, available @ ebay.in at price range varying from 8.8K to 9.3K. Here is the link.
HD 5850 is based on the older architecture and that has been tuned up a lot in the BART architecture. But yes, HD 5850 offers better performance than a HD 6850 and closer to HD 6870. So at a price of 9.6K (I think you got the price from deltapage.com), surely you can go with it, if you are not bothered about the older architecture and concentrate on performance.
While finding some cheaper Z68 models from Gigabyte, I've found GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3, available @ ebay.in at price range varying from 8.8K to 9.3K. Here is the link.
somulesnar
Journeyman
in my opinion i wud go for this rig...
CPU: Intel i5-2400 -- 9.3k
MoBo: Intel DH67BL -- 5.5k
RAM: Corsair Value 4GB DDR3 -- 2.2k
HDD: WDC Blue 500GB -- 1.7k
ODD: Asus 24x DVD RW -- 1k
PSU: FSP SAGAII 500W -- 2.1k
Cabinet: CM Elite 310 -- 1.5k
Monitor: BENQ G2220HD -- 7.2k
KB+Mouse: Logitech Combo -- 0.5k
Speakers: your choice -- 1.8k
UPS: APC 600VA -- 1.7k
Total -34.5k
GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6850 -- 9.5k
GRAND TOTAL: --- 44k
CPU: Intel i5-2400 -- 9.3k
MoBo: Intel DH67BL -- 5.5k
RAM: Corsair Value 4GB DDR3 -- 2.2k
HDD: WDC Blue 500GB -- 1.7k
ODD: Asus 24x DVD RW -- 1k
PSU: FSP SAGAII 500W -- 2.1k
Cabinet: CM Elite 310 -- 1.5k
Monitor: BENQ G2220HD -- 7.2k
KB+Mouse: Logitech Combo -- 0.5k
Speakers: your choice -- 1.8k
UPS: APC 600VA -- 1.7k
Total -34.5k
GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6850 -- 9.5k
GRAND TOTAL: --- 44k
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
imo get 6870. as 5850 lacks in tessellation performance.
yeah its deltapage. I don't know much about crossfire or SLI, but do they only work with two 'identical' cards? or can I get benefits from 2 cards of even different architectures?
Thanks loads, Z68 is so recent, its hard to find a decent one.
The i5 2500K adds 1.2K, the GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 adds atleast 3.3 K, I already have speakers so that subtracts 1.8K, I dont need a UPS subtracts 1.7K, and a 5850 adds 0.1K . Bringing the total to 44.9K
And that adds 1.6K, bringing it to 46.5K
Even 6850 has somewhat better tessellation performance than the 5850.
yes, the architecture changed, right? But is tessellation really such a big deal? Are there tessellation-intensive games?
Cilus
laborare est orare
Then Op should opt for HD 6870 if he wants good tessellation performance. The Tessellation performance of HD 6850 and HD 5850 are almost same. Check it here (although HD 6850 has optimized units but 5850 matches it due to higher number of shader processors). Now HD 5850 offers better performance than HD 6850 and my recommendation goes for HD 5850 as a better alternative than HD 6850. IF you want Tessellation performance, go and grab the Sapphire HD 6870, available @ 11.3K