Dota 2

[sam_738844]

So for the best hero for me was Jakiro

Jakiro is defintely a superb choice. Jakiro even being an int, he has good base strenght which gives me decent regen and hp head-start in early game to. He can be made carry with shiva's guard and aghanim's a must to nuke faster and deadlier. also can harass and lane management is very easy wid him in early mid game since he has passive dps ability also to structures. cons are he's slow, even with boots, and has bad collision path. suffers from chaos night, bloodseeker, centaur, enchantress and tauren for the same reason, also has high cast time for spells though it seemed in dota2 the animation made it better in response time.

Try posting in dev forum and spread the news as far as possible, so that other indian can support that also. BTW dont think they will provide a indian server. After a long time the Australian server is added, and from india we get good enough pin to SEA Servers.


Any way guys be prepared for a big update coming. No new hero, but they have added

Spoiler

Update size 1.5 GB

i woke up the next morning and found there was another 542MB update waiting...just to troll me!!!!!???

u can not carry without team support with silencer
he do not have high armor or dodge
and in late game u cant tank even a bit with silencer
believe me
i am experienced dota player
been playing since dota launched
if u dont have a good team u cant win a match
unless the opposite side is a noob and run into ganks with head over heels
if they stick they gonna own u
btw
opponents had antimage in their team as carry
so there goes my carrying with silencer

Exactly...those are words from DOTA pro, silencer is only good when he has nuke behind him or stunners....orchid maelvolence and vanguard build will only allow him to land last hit fast on heros who are fleeing with low health after a gank situation and steal +1 +2 int from them while surviving rest attacks, he can keep on going like this and get a high enough int base to keep glaives turned on at all times auto-casted which can give him an edge, but there is no way he can be tank , he can never survive agility or disablers if veno, troll warlord, huskar or viper is around with just another carry like anti mage or riki with diffusal blade.

 

[theserpent]

Riki is really tough to kill..Esp due to its Invisibilty
Somehow Riki was cloning itself into our team mates and was able to use that particular heros power too

 

[arijitsinha]

As for zeus build, I prefer Refresher Orb over Scepter, by spending a few more gold it will do more damage than scepter(by casting ulti twice) + it will provide 200% mana regen, same as bloodstone and it is easier to build. This is my 2nd item to rush after arcane boots. Items are definitely players choices.

Riki is really tough to kill..Esp due to its Invisibilty
Somehow Riki was cloning itself into our team mates and was able to use that particular heros power too

riki was cloning?? This is not possible. Is there any morphling or rubick in enemy teams? Morph can clone anyone and Rubick can steal other's spells.

 

[theserpent]

^^ Morphling was there

 

[sam_738844]

As for zeus build, I prefer Refresher Orb over Scepter, by spending a few more gold it will do more damage than scepter(by casting ulti twice) + it will provide 200% mana regen, same as bloodstone and it is easier to build. This is my 2nd item to rush after arcane boots. Items are definitely players choices.




riki was cloning?? This is not possible. Is there any morphling or rubick in enemy teams? Morph can clone anyone and Rubick can steal other's spells.

refresher orb is a luxury item and is not recommended in a serious 5 vs 5 with strength opponents. reason is this orb has its very long cooldown which actually makes it useless after a constant bombardment of all 3 active spells by zeus. Either one wont have enough mana pool in mid game to activate refresher and nuke the ulti or u'll feel to actually use 2nd skill to insta kill an opponent who u are able to see. If you are playing against agile or int, then near fountain or anywhere else in the map u can make two full ulti shots to land a serious blow, but thats only the ulti you can use to the remote hero, not like all skills to a nearby one. for zeus ulti killing is more of a chance and needs a proper overlook of the total map, also it doesnt ensure a hit if strength heros build hood of defiance and negate ur ulti with a smile. Better go with dagon L3 L4 which has less cast animation, way less cooldown, cheaper and withing range if you use all other three skills, ensures a guranteed kill. Refresher orb is good for warlock for hes ulti strenghtens with increasing numbers of summoned unit twice as much. so better go with dagon and use the rest cash to have dagger of escape, pipe or shiva. Scepter's a must as without it, zeus ulti damage will reach just about the kill-threshold but not over it, you will feel it when u'll see heros able to flee with a below 100 health bar after eating the whole spell.

 

[theserpent]

Played as Riki with bots.Owned the game xD

 

[Sarath]

Anyone playing now?

 

[Piyush]

Anyone playing now?

yes..

 

[arijitsinha]

Anyone playing now?

Wooo.. Atlast you wake up. I am in

 

[sam_738844]

Played as:
Enchantress

Early Build : Null Talisman, Power Treads , Salve
Mid Game : Dagon, Orchid.
Later : Aghanim, Dagon leveld up two levels.

29 kills 2 deaths 18 Assists

Bounty Hunter

Early game
Bracer , salve, Power treads Strength
Mid Game
Drum, yasha, mask of madness
Later
Sange & Yasha, Crystalis, shadow Blade

19 kills 3 deaths 22 assists.

 

[Desmond]

Why do you need MoM and Crystalis on Bounty?

I don't think DPS build is very practical on BH and his crits are pretty good and guaranteed every few seconds and his ulti gives pretty good chasing capabilities. Instead, damage items more better I think.

I usually go Phase boots, Deso and SnY. Plus bottle.

 

[Piyush]

@Desmond and Arijit

Hey guys wanna team up for that Alienware Dota championship?

 

[Desmond]

@Desmond and Arijit

Hey guys wanna team up for that Alienware Dota championship?

I don't think so. I have a job and the timings are erratic.

 

[sam_738844]

Why do you need MoM and Crystalis on Bounty?

I don't think DPS build is very practical on BH and his crits are pretty good and guaranteed every few seconds and his ulti gives pretty good chasing capabilities. Instead, damage items more better I think.

I usually go Phase boots, Deso and SnY. Plus bottle.

Oh! cmon desmond! why everytime the same ideal build? you got to have experimental mindset sometimes....every single pro BH will go for deso and phaseboot, how many have u seen to play BH with maelstorm i did that too, it was great fun believe me! MoM was very useful while chasing spirit breaker or razor to match their enhanced MS ( as they are hard to keep up even with track!), as u know MoM gives you a speed boost just like PB does it with collision . Also I would go for a basher build but game ended too quick. While in co-op against not so good players , i always surprise them with experiments.

@Desmond and Arijit

Hey guys wanna team up for that Alienware Dota championship?

I suggest before going to any championship, hone your skills with as many competitive scenarios you can possibly imagine, not against bots for a start...good opponents, great opponents then gradually to impossible to win against opponents....rip the map apart, know every stone, every tide in that middle river! rune timings, courier strategies, easy shop. Then one should extensively do R&D with his/her fav hero and how to sync every move with his fav co-op players, say for arijit and desmond, assume arijit is shadow shaman and desmond is warlock, so a successful and stylish gank would require arijit to do the right time with his wards around and shackles to tie up the tank/carry of opponent just when warlock will happen to nuke with burning legion from sky and slowcurse the whole place...trust me i've seen it so perfect that it costed the opponent the match! So ++ for your enthusiasm for championship,see if you guys can make some gliitters on that floor....all the best from me

 

[Piyush]

Oh! cmon desmond! why everytime the same ideal build? you got to have experimental mindset sometimes....every single pro BH will go for deso and phaseboot, how many have u seen to play BH with maelstorm i did that too, it was great fun believe me! MoM was very useful while chasing spirit breaker or razor to match their enhanced MS ( as they are hard to keep up even with track!), as u know MoM gives you a speed boost just like PB does it with collision . Also I would go for a basher build but game ended too quick. While in co-op against not so good players , i always surprise them with experiments.



I suggest before going to any championship, hone your skills with as many competitive scenarios you can possibly imagine, not against bots for a start...good opponents, great opponents then gradually to impossible to win against opponents....rip the map apart, know every stone, every tide in that middle river! rune timings, courier strategies, easy shop. Then one should extensively do R&D with his/her fav hero and how to sync every move with his fav co-op players, say for arijit and desmond, assume arijit is shadow shaman and desmond is warlock, so a successful and stylish gank would require arijit to do the right time with his wards around and shackles to tie up the tank/carry of opponent just when warlock will happen to nuke with burning legion from sky and slowcurse the whole place...trust me i've seen it so perfect that it costed the opponent the match! So ++ for your enthusiasm for championship,see if you guys can make some gliitters on that floor....all the best from me

Thanks man for the heads up bro
Actually, one of my friend asked me to make a group, he's been playing DOTA since 5 yrs or so. He said we'd be fine if I find players who are better than me .
I'm not an experienced player or anything, but I know am comfortable enough to gank/escape with many heroes. Few heroes which I can play easily (with team support) are Pudge, Silencer, Viper, Clinkz, Zeus, Tiny, Sniper, Drow, Axe, Phantom Lancer, Phantom Assassin, Sven. Rest of them are in experimental lot.

The thing is, if my team has good coordination ,I can carry out my strategies flawlessly, but in Pub games, its almost impossible. Warding is critically important, courier should be taken with care, reporting miss is necessary, etc. without these factors one cant win a game. I'm thinking of mastering a Lane support/Support hero since he can turn the tides at any point of the game with his skills.

I don't think so. I have a job and the timings are erratic.

Umm okay .

 

[arijitsinha]

I don't think so. I have a job and the timings are erratic.

Same problem here. but fixed timing Though the match will start from 8 o clock, its ok for me. I can manage to escape from office. And we need 5+ members, if any case someone is unavailable, we have to manage, else they will disqualify.

@sam

Its just for fun man and gaining some experience , how the competitive scenario is. Win or loss is not everything, participation is the key in all gaming.

 

[Piyush]

Same problem here. but fixed timing Though the match will start from 8 o clock, its ok for me. I can manage to escape from office. And we need 5+ members, if any case someone is unavailable, we have to manage, else they will disqualify.

Please say yes You play a lot better than me.

 

[theserpent]

@piyush your a pro with Tiny and sniper..was spectating your game that day ...

 

[sam_738844]

Thanks man for the heads up bro
Actually, one of my friend asked me to make a group, he's been playing DOTA since 5 yrs or so. He said we'd be fine if I find players who are better than me .
I'm not an experienced player or anything, but I know am comfortable enough to gank/escape with many heroes. Few heroes which I can play easily (with team support) are Pudge, Silencer, Viper, Clinkz, Zeus, Tiny, Sniper, Drow, Axe, Phantom Lancer, Phantom Assassin, Sven. Rest of them are in experimental lot.

The thing is, if my team has good coordination ,I can carry out my strategies flawlessly, but in Pub games, its almost impossible. Warding is critically important, courier should be taken with care, reporting miss is necessary, etc. without these factors one cant win a game. I'm thinking of mastering a Lane support/Support hero since he can turn the tides at any point of the game with his skills.



Umm okay .

You'll do just fine. I've been playing dota since 2007, and when it comes to 5 vs 5 human players, its all but team play. Extraordinary skill set can be acquired with all heros in DOTA, some are easy, some are strtegic and some need superb reflexes to land a game-changer in the match.

Drow, venge, Ursa, tiny, viper, veno, huskar, sniper these heros can go all out from early-mid game and will still mange to kill/escape a 1 vs 3 situation with proper build and if the opponent is weak, they will start wrecking havoc right away, they also dont require much items to beef'em up for a decent carry.

Heros like apparition,rubic, invoker, necro, warlock, shadow demon require strategies, which affects you team play so much that few bad mistakes can cost you high and few tricky moves can turn the whole thing to ur favor.

Riki, brood, zeus, centaur, bounty, crixalis are bit reflex based, shift queing their actions in quick sucesstion gives you definite edge in combat and helps scoring last hit kills after a gank situations.

there are also heros like Treant, jakiro, dragon night, mortred lion and lina who are excellent nukers and supports, they may take a bit time till mid game to be up with best item of choice and then when its done, they will start showing their colours in style. Keeper of light, crystal are outstanding support hero if you join up with one as your friend or be it you. So read every thing about every hero, build them, play them day and nightwith ur pal, try different tank/carry/nuke and see what is all about. Remember your oopponent wont give you even half a chance to survive if you get in their grasp for they can play with any hero. I recommend you playing original DOTA latest map in normal-fast and then insane-fast side by side with dota2 to get the most out of the gameplay.

Same problem here. but fixed timing Though the match will start from 8 o clock, its ok for me. I can manage to escape from office. And we need 5+ members, if any case someone is unavailable, we have to manage, else they will disqualify.

@sam

Its just for fun man and gaining some experience , how the competitive scenario is. Win or loss is not everything, participation is the key in all gaming.

True, but win is always important to let the kid inside all of us to live longer....win-loss is not everything...but its a big thing. Losing is not fun in competition, if you have not been to any, let me tell you, pro-gamers are not called pro just for the sake of it, many do it as their living and many do as they dont live at all, so what u'll get is humiliation, harassment and utter dissapointment, at a point of time it will likely to brake you. We all know we wont make it to finals and stuff but its like "when ur about to have fun, have it a bit more seriously"....always think higher than your potential, you'll see my point. Afterall its not study, we can get serious to any level we want without getting tired, bored and constrained

 

[ghouse12311]

@Piyush desmond sam and serpent i want to play some games with you guys and i have played a few games with arjit
and he can vouch for me being a good player...so lets fix a time and play a team MM?