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Desmond · May 13, 2014

Dubai server allegedly online. Can someone confirm is this is visible?

*i.imgur.com/QPoopYB.png

If yes, please check pings.

anaklusmos · May 13, 2014

Yup i can see Dubai too, ping 240 ms

Desmond · May 13, 2014

Not very feasible to play there then.

hsr · May 13, 2014

*i.imgur.com/NVixsMU.png
Good news for northies, you will have a better server

No news for southies, you get routed very oddly...
*i.imgur.com/3OWzAaN.jpg

debarshi · May 13, 2014

Any link to the TI4 schedule in IST (including qualifiers) would be helpful

Desmond · May 13, 2014

Can anyone from Mumbai check pings and let us know?

hsr · May 13, 2014

debarshi said:
Any link to the TI4 schedule in IST (including qualifiers) would be helpful

Click watch -> Events and you can see the IST timings for the matches on each day.

Desmond · May 13, 2014

What time do the qualifiers start today?

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In office now, so cannot check in the client.

hsr · May 13, 2014

*i.imgur.com/DYp1EQy.png
*i.imgur.com/rpRdRfy.png

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Seems like it is an issue, many people on the dev forum thread is reporting high pings. It's only better for the people in UAE at the moment, so it may well be improved in the future...

debarshi · May 13, 2014

From Kolkata, Dubai server pings at 307 while Sea is at 107

Desmond · May 13, 2014

hsr said:
*i.imgur.com/DYp1EQy.png
*i.imgur.com/rpRdRfy.png

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Seems like it is an issue, many people on the dev forum thread is reporting high pings. It's only better for the people in UAE at the moment, so it may well be improved in the future...

Probably because of some draconian Saudi firewall?

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Ref : *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Saudi_Arabia#Internet

Piyush · May 13, 2014

Wow so much happened in 1 night

Hoping to get the ping issue fixed. And yea, we Indians (90%) are routed very badly. Just look at the traceroute if anyone interested. I was giving tracert response to dev.dota2.com and Admin there (Milton) strictly said this to me : "Sorry pal but you guys have absurd route to the requested servers. I'm afraid you guys will have good pings on UAE server anytime soon. Please continue with SEA as of now and watch this space"

arijitsinha · May 13, 2014

Piyush said:
Wow so much happened in 1 night

Hoping to get the ping issue fixed. And yea, we Indians (90%) are routed very badly. Just look at the traceroute if anyone interested. I was giving tracert response to dev.dota2.com and Admin there (Milton) strictly said this to me : "Sorry pal but you guys have absurd route to the requested servers. I'm afraid you guys will have good pings on UAE server anytime soon. Please continue with SEA as of now and watch this space"

Routing depends on ISP... not all ISP uses same routing. I have used 3 ISPs so far.

1) Local ISP , ping was 40-60 to SEA , but other servers ping was over 300
2) Airtel , ping was 80-100 , other server ping was 200-300
3) Photon+ (Data Card) ping is 180-200. other server - 200-500

Piyush · May 13, 2014

arijitsinha said:
Routing depends on ISP... not all ISP uses same routing. I have used 3 ISPs so far.

1) Local ISP , ping was 40-60 to SEA , but other servers ping was over 300
2) Airtel , ping was 80-100 , other server ping was 200-300
3) Photon+ (Data Card) ping is 180-200. other server - 200-500

Yea but looking at Indian scenario where majority of users have either BSNL, MTNL, Airtel, Reliance, Tikona, etc.... they all suffer from bad routing afaik.
Cant say for other small new ISPs, but I've heard that new ISPs take care of routing very well .
Regarding ISPs like Airtel, Reliance and other bigwigs, some friends of mine have good feedback and some vice versa.

hsr · May 13, 2014

arijitsinha said:
Routing depends on ISP... not all ISP uses same routing. I have used 3 ISPs so far.

1) Local ISP , ping was 40-60 to SEA , but other servers ping was over 300
2) Airtel , ping was 80-100 , other server ping was 200-300
3) Photon+ (Data Card) ping is 180-200. other server - 200-500

Ditto here

1) Local Asianet Dataline 40-80 to SEA /2xx to others 3xx to Americas
2) BSNL 100-380 to SEA /3xx to others 4xx to Americas
3) DOCOMO 3g DataCard 200-240 to SEA /2xx to others 3xx to Americas

ganeshnokiae63 · May 13, 2014

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hsr · May 13, 2014

India has 3 fiber outs, Mumbai is the major one followed by Chennai and Kochi. All three have direct links to Singapore but only Mumbai has direct to UAE. Kochi and Chennai Traffic will most probably be routed through Mumbai to UAE so there definitely will be a small spike (20-50ms). This is speculation as I have no clue how Internet is routed in India (probably nobody knows)!

Piyush · May 13, 2014

Check this post by Milton regarding India and Airtel

*dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=72226&p=1071527&viewfull=1#post1071527

hsr · May 13, 2014

Code:

PS C:\Users\doktor> tracert -h 50 dxb.valve.net

Tracing route to dxb.valve.net [185.25.183.1]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  D-Link.Home [192.168.1.1]
  2    32 ms    31 ms    31 ms  117.196.160.1
  3    29 ms    30 ms    31 ms  218.248.166.38
  4    54 ms    58 ms    58 ms  218.248.235.129
  5    52 ms    53 ms   124 ms  218.248.235.210
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11   289 ms   287 ms   288 ms  94.201.0.66
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13   296 ms   293 ms   292 ms  94.205.255.33
 14   293 ms   293 ms   293 ms  185.25.183.1

Trace complete.
PS C:\Users\doktor> tracert -h 50 sgp-1.valve.net

Tracing route to sgp-1.valve.net [103.28.54.1]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  D-Link.Home [192.168.1.1]
  2    30 ms    31 ms    31 ms  117.196.160.1
  3    30 ms    31 ms    30 ms  218.248.166.38
  4    53 ms     *       55 ms  218.248.235.213
  5     *       53 ms    53 ms  218.248.235.134
  6     *       53 ms     *     14.141.139.145.static-chennai.vsnl.net.in [14.141.139.145]
  7    63 ms    62 ms    62 ms  ix-4-2.tcore1.CXR-Chennai.as6453.net [180.87.36.9]
  8    99 ms    87 ms    89 ms  if-5-2.tcore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net [180.87.12.53]
  9    87 ms   158 ms    86 ms  180.87.12.150
 10    89 ms    89 ms    87 ms  unknown.hwng.net [173.245.210.218]
 11    92 ms    88 ms    87 ms  103-28-54-229.valve.net [103.28.55.229]
 12    88 ms    89 ms    88 ms  sgp-1.valve.net [103.28.54.1]

Trace complete.
PS C:\Users\doktor> tracert -h 50 sgp-2.valve.net

Tracing route to sgp-2.valve.net [103.10.124.1]
over a maximum of 50 hops:

  1     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  D-Link.Home [192.168.1.1]
  2    31 ms    30 ms    30 ms  117.196.160.1
  3    30 ms    30 ms    34 ms  218.248.166.38
  4    53 ms     *        *     218.248.235.129
  5    58 ms    55 ms    55 ms  218.248.235.142
  6    53 ms    52 ms    52 ms  14.141.139.145.static-chennai.vsnl.net.in [14.141.139.145]
  7    61 ms    63 ms    76 ms  ix-4-2.tcore1.CXR-Chennai.as6453.net [180.87.36.9]
  8    88 ms    85 ms    87 ms  if-5-2.tcore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net [180.87.12.53]
  9    87 ms    86 ms    86 ms  180.87.12.150
 10    89 ms    87 ms    87 ms  sgp-2.valve.net [103.10.124.1]

Trace complete.

These are my tracert, but since it's BSNL all traffic are routed via Chennai to SEA (Local ISP used Kochi so lesser pings there). No clue on route to DXB.

(Chennai isn't "bad" for all, it is for me because it's like 700kms away)

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Code:

117.196.160.1		India, 13, Cochin
218.248.166.38		India, 07, New Delhi
218.248.235.129		India, 07, New Delhi
218.248.235.210		India, 07, New Delhi
94.201.0.66		United Arab Emirates
94.205.255.33		United Arab Emirates
185.25.183.1		Europe

Code:

117.196.160.1								India, 13, Cochin
218.248.166.38								India, 07, New Delhi
218.248.235.213								India, 07, New Delhi
218.248.235.134								India, 07, New Delhi
14.141.139.145		14.141.139.145.static-chennai.vsnl.net.in	India
180.87.36.9		ix-4-2.tcore1.CXR-Chennai.as6453.net		India, 16, Pune
180.87.12.53		if-5-2.tcore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net		India, 16, Pune
180.87.12.150								India, 16, Pune
173.245.210.218		unknown.hwng.net				United States, CA, Costa Mesa
103.28.55.229		103-28-54-229.valve.net				Singapore
103.28.54.1		sgp-1.valve.net					Singapore

What location services returned...

Piyush · May 13, 2014

As expected, tracert to sgp is sweet.
Im gonna wait and see what happens next in UAE server chapter.

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