Do you own a desktop?

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seamon

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why do you think facebook paid 19billon ?

ok i will stop being arrogant and give some info.. :D

its mobile where its at..I have met many game developers, mobile dev far outnumber PC..
unity3d is a super hit.. most games are played on mobile and not pc...
i am a game engine developer myself and being in this industry, i know exactly what's happening!

also hav seen the regret in eyes of game engine developers who were late to mobile party.. read unreal, crytek and my own team ;)

Good enough.
Still all gaming world championships are held on PC and not on mobiles/tablets(that would look pretty stupid imo)
 

a_k_s_h_a_y

Dreaming
Good enough.
Still all gaming world championships are held on PC and not on mobiles/tablets(that would look pretty stupid imo)

am a big fan of esports, watch twitch.. daily.. its all PC gaming.. and of course consoles..

however Hearthstone has come for iPad and I played a hearthstone contest at a blizzard party in san francisco on the iPads!! So yeah, its still there.. expect large touch screens for eSports gaming as touch based games evolve.. in future.
 

srkmish

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Game development on multiple platforms is a win win for everyone. Developers can port it if feasible thus earning more. Moreover, all the big budget game releases like MW, they dont even have to care about mobile portability for profits as last i heard , the last MW Game earned 700 million in 5 days.
 

nomad47

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What about vacations? If you go out then will you wait 2-3 weeks for your "cove"?

Alienware 18 and Euromcom's top model should cost around 1.8 lakhs(excluding import). Both have GTX 880m SLI which is 10% more powerful than the old TITAN. Eurcom even packs a desktop core i7 4770K CPU whereas AW has the core i7 4960XM. That's "i7+titan" equivalent performance. Now considering the total cost of both my laptops, which is round about to 1.8 lakhs, if I were in US one of these could have been in my hands now(But I doubt I'd like something that bulky).

Trains have plug points so you can easily game while in them. Hell even some buses have them too. rickshaw o_O seriously? Oh wait, a rickshaw in Bangalore provides wifi service inside it(google it, there's a TOI article on it), that will probably have plug points inside it too. I have played games in my car too. xD You can actually play quite respectably while on battery.

In some laptops such as Alienwares and Blade, I think you can play with full performance for an hour or two(on blade).

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There are 1.5 billion gamers in the world btw.

1.8 lakhs??? You can get twice the performance in that price.
 

seamon

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Game development on multiple platforms is a win win for everyone. Developers can port it if feasible thus earning more. Moreover, all the big budget game releases like MW, they dont even have to care about mobile portability for profits as last i heard , the last MW Game earned 700 million in 5 days.

This will make competitive gaming a problem as touch and mouse/KB combo have different play styles.

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1.8 lakhs??? You can get twice the performance in that price.

70k of that was free :D.
I can't take that "twice performance" with me to my other houses in other states plus my other arguments which are too many to repeat. I am a laptop fanboy(I admit it).

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Besides I can play all games at near ultra(1080p) and most at ultra anyway, what more do I need? I'mma replace this laptop in a year or two.
 

gagan_kumar

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ignore this comment just wanted to subscribe to hilarious discussion........

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It's not here with me. It's in my other home lying around with some packaged stuff which I never bothered to open after my family's transfer from yet another state.
Tl;Dr it's complicated.
yet another state???? what u do???

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What about vacations? If you go out then will you wait 2-3 weeks for your "cove"?

Alienware 18 and Euromcom's top model should cost around 1.8 lakhs(excluding import). Both have GTX 880m SLI which is 10% more powerful than the old TITAN. Eurcom even packs a desktop core i7 4770K CPU whereas AW has the core i7 4960XM. That's "i7+titan" equivalent performance. Now considering the total cost of both my laptops, which is round about to 1.8 lakhs, if I were in US one of these could have been in my hands now(But I doubt I'd like something that bulky).

Trains have plug points so you can easily game while in them. Hell even some buses have them too. rickshaw o_O seriously? Oh wait, a rickshaw in Bangalore provides wifi service inside it(google it, there's a TOI article on it), that will probably have plug points inside it too. I have played games in my car too. xD You can actually play quite respectably while on battery.

In some laptops such as Alienwares and Blade, I think you can play with full performance for an hour or two(on blade).

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There are 1.5 billion gamers in the world btw.
btw is it 1.8 lakh each or 1.8 lakh for both???
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Besides I can play all games at near ultra(1080p) and most at ultra anyway, what more do I need? I'mma replace this laptop in a year or two.

you must be really loaded .........

dude srsly what do u do??
 

ithehappy

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[MENTION=149723]gta0gagan[/MENTION]: What he / she does is entirely his / her business, I honestly don't care, won't bother to ask. Loaded is a relative term too :)

What is not one's business though, is spreading around misinformed / biased comments which can mislead the newcomers into no extent and associatively wasting lots of money and that's the sad part of this topic, and what actually bothers me a lot. It will be and is any community's disgrace, and if I am not wrong TDF is the most active Indian Tech community. So think with your brain, kindly.

WE, who are desktop owners will always know and do what we do, what we did. So this thread is practically non-existent to us, however a solid fun and place of humour. So why am I bothering to comment here again? Cause I have nothing better to do at this moment, and I don't do Facebook or those imaginary friendship things :)
 

seamon

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[MENTION=149723]gta0gagan[/MENTION]: What he / she does is entirely his / her business, I honestly don't care, won't bother to ask. Loaded is a relative term too :)

What is not one's business though, is spreading around misinformed / biased comments which can mislead the newcomers into no extent and associatively wasting lots of money and that's the sad part of this topic, and what actually bothers me a lot. It will be and is any community's disgrace, and if I am not wrong TDF is the most active Indian Tech community. So think with your brain, kindly.

WE, who are desktop owners will always know and do what we do, what we did. So this thread is practically non-existent to us, however a solid fun and place of humour. So why am I bothering to comment here again? Cause I have nothing better to do at this moment, and I don't do Facebook or those imaginary friendship things :)
Exactly! That's why I commented in the first place. It's sad how much desktop owners are misinformed about laptops and think laptops are so underpowered that they can only play "angry birds". I just corrected some mis-informed people here who don't know that laptops can be upgraded and can provide performance equivalent of a titan.
Desktops are only better than laptops in gaming and heavy rendering. I even dare to say that laptops are more productive than desktops any frakin day.

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[MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION], i guess I'll be looking forward to get that Y500 with sli :p

I have already got offers of upto 50k :p
 

ithehappy

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Exactly! That's why I commented in the first place. It's sad how much desktop owners are misinformed about laptops and think laptops are so underpowered that they can only play "angry birds". I just corrected some mis-informed people here who don't know that laptops can be upgraded and can provide performance equivalent of a titan.
Desktops are only better than laptops in gaming and heavy rendering. I even dare to say that laptops are more productive than desktops any frakin day.
It's still irrelevant dude. You are comparing two utterly different things targeted for two different types of users.

When you see the world you need to see from average people's point of view, maybe you and I can afford a pair of Titans, but most people have their whole rig in that budget.

I am a gamer, I am a PC enthusiast, I do other simple tasks too, like browsing, watching movies which can't be watched with family on TV ( :p ) and slight bit of video converting of my game-plays too. Now I do that on my rig, flawlessly, at 40-50% less budget than a laptop, without generating so much heat. So why on earth would I get a laptop? I seriously doubt how many people travel to every corner to their house and carry their laptop. When they do something they ultimately have to sit somewhere and do the works, and even a bloody lazy idiot like me is saying this! As someone said, you connect your laptop to an external display, you use a separate keyboard, mouse, so it's basically desktop materials you are using, it's the whole experience that matters, along with superior hardware of course. If you say laptop that'd mean that squared box only, nothing attached to it.

Desktops are better than laptop for any or every sort of work which doesn't require portability (for portability nowadays some sodding tablets can do the work of a laptop), let alone gaming / heavy rendering works, they are way more durable, consistent too, and I bet you know and believe that too, but you are just in a point of your life where for whatever reasons you can't have a desktop, well I get it. Back in 2006 when I used to sit back on my Fiat Palio and had no job and see some other person's 3 series going past me I just felt sad each time I saw those bloody cars, and kept saying to my mind, hey frak it, that has four wheels, this has four wheels too, what's the difference anyway.....but somewhere in my mind I had that urge.....and it's 2014, maybe some other kid now sees me and feels the same....but on those days I never (I was with a different username in TDF that time) believed or said anywhere that my car was more productive or better than that 320d even when mine was at least 6 times less priced.

I am confident that this will be my last post here.
 
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Gollum

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It's still irrelevant dude. You are comparing two utterly different things targeted for two different types of users.

When you see the world you need to see from average people's point of view, maybe you and I can afford a pair of Titans, but most people have their whole rig in that budget.

I am a gamer, I am a PC enthusiast, I do other simple tasks too, like browsing, watching movies which can't be watched with family on TV ( :p ) and slight bit of video converting of my game-plays too. Now I do that on my rig, flawlessly, at 40-50% less budget than a laptop, without generating so much heat. So why on earth would I get a laptop? I seriously doubt how many people travel to every corner to their house and carry their laptop. When they do something they ultimately have to sit somewhere and do the works, and even a bloody lazy idiot like me is saying this! As someone said, you connect your laptop to an external display, you use a separate keyboard, mouse, so it's basically desktop materials you are using, it's the whole experience that matters, along with superior hardware of course. If you say laptop that'd mean that squared box only, nothing attached to it.

Desktops are better than laptop for any or every sort of work which doesn't require portability (for portability nowadays some sodding tablets can do the work of a laptop), let alone gaming / heavy rendering works, they are way more durable, consistent too, and I bet you know and believe that too, but you are just in a point of your life where for whatever reasons you can't have a desktop, well I get it. Back in 2006 when I used to sit back on my Fiat Palio and had no job and see some other person's 3 series going past me I just felt sad each time I saw those bloody cars, and kept saying to my mind, hey frak it, that has four wheels, this has four wheels too, what's the difference anyway.....but somewhere in my mind I had that urge.....and it's 2014, maybe some other kid now sees me and feels the same....but on those days I never (I was with a different username in TDF that time) believed or said anywhere that my car was more productive or better than that 320d even when mine was at least 6 times less priced.

I am confident that this will be my last post here.

I agree with you bro.
That's why my company, who happens to be a manufacturer, started rolling out elitebook 9470m and 849G1 ultrabooks for the employees.
All regular guys get ultrabooks and those who have heavy tasks to run get Zbook15 workstations which is heavy like a rock.

desktops are completely replaced in my office by notebooks because with these little things we can work from home. So a notebook is very good for office guys with mobility as a option.

But then again we gamers have our custom PC's that are as good as Workstations. meant to do much more than play games. There are workstation notebooks as well which can do the same thing but you can never achieve the same performance with a notebook, Its just not meant to be that way at that form factor.

Seamon, you are right to a certain extent but people need to decide on multiple factors before they buy a computing device. If I had a job that required me to move a lot, like go to different states, I would prefer my employer to give me a powerful notebook but then again carrying a bulky laptop everywhere will be a pain.
 

kkn13

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Ill give my current situation as an example, my entire house is under renovation minus 2 rooms , my desktops tvs home theaters etc are all lying in one room with soo many wires and I'm comfortably gaming on my laptop (skyrim pn high) , only two wires -power and mouse, if I only had an expensive desktop and no high spec laptop I would have been able to do this , so yeah I think my point must be clear
 

srkmish

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With a desktop and a 10 inch tablet like ipad, laptops seem redundant to me. I can always jailbreak the ipad, can connect a mouse and keyboard and enjoy much more smoothness/battery life than any laptop.
 

kkn13

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With a desktop and a 10 inch tablet like ipad, laptops seem redundant to me. I can always jailbreak the ipad, can connect a mouse and keyboard and enjoy much more smoothness/battery life than any laptop.




Lol , I have iPads as well but gaming on tablets or comparing it to laptops is a joke they are good for emails,browsing ,multimedia but mobile games will always be a joke to laptop,pc and console users
Even remote desktop gaming is a joke,I have an n300 and n900 in my house and games still lag even on a wlan network
 

Desmond

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If you had to choose between a Dodge Challenger and a Maruti 800, what would you choose?

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*upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Maruti_800_AC.jpg/280px-Maruti_800_AC.jpg

Of course the Maruti 800 is smaller and more fuel efficient, but it cannot compare to the raw power that the Challenger is capable of. Of course as gas prices go up, muscle cars won't be too mainstream, but people who need power would always go in for it.

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Lol , I have iPads as well but gaming on tablets or comparing it to laptops is a joke they are good for emails,browsing ,multimedia but mobile games will always be a joke to laptop,pc and console users
Even remote desktop gaming is a joke,I have an n300 and n900 in my house and games still lag even on a wlan network

Lagging cannot fully be reduced in remote gaming since it basically re-encodes your gaming video and streams it over your WLAN to your portable device. If the quality of the compression is too high, it might take time to encode at your server as well as decode at the client.
 

kkn13

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If you had to choose between a Dodge Challenger and a Maruti 800, what would you choose?

*upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/2010_Dodge_Challenger_RT_Classic.JPG/280px-2010_Dodge_Challenger_RT_Classic.JPG

*upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Maruti_800_AC.jpg/280px-Maruti_800_AC.jpg

Of course the Maruti 800 is smaller and more fuel efficient, but it cannot compare to the raw power that the Challenger is capable of. Of course as gas prices go up, muscle cars won't be too mainstream, but people who need power would always go in for it.

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Lagging cannot fully be reduced in remote gaming since it basically re-encodes your gaming video and streams it over your WLAN to your portable device. If the quality of the compression is too high, it might take time to encode at your server as well as decode at the client.

thats a wrong comparison
a fair one would be monster truck vs hummer
hummer is more logical in this age than a monster truck which cant be taken everywhere
 

Desmond

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thats a wrong comparison
a fair one would be monster truck vs hummer
hummer is more logical in this age than a monster truck which cant be taken everywhere

A monster truck still has more power than the Hummer.
 

Pasapa

Live to die another day
Ok, after all these comments we can see that laptop's are for people who game everywhere, be it the bathroom, office,train,the bed and desktop's are for people who have a life.... End of discussion, lock the thread

bb.
 

seamon

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A monster truck still has more power than the Hummer.

The point is your comparison was irrelevant here as we never compared power usage in laptops /desktops.
More people would still go for the 800 while dreaming of the challenger. Whereas most people will buy desktops while dreaming of alienwares.

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Ok, after all these comments we can see that laptop's are for people who game everywhere, be it the bathroom, office,train,the bed and desktop's are for people who have a life.... End of discussion, lock the thread

bb.

I sincerely doubt that is the case, hardcore gamers game on pcs due to performance issues(on multiple screens). Laptops are for short occasional bouts.
 

Desmond

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The point is your comparison was irrelevant here as we never compared power usage in laptops /desktops.
More people would still go for the 800 while dreaming of the challenger. Whereas most people will buy desktops while dreaming of alienwares.

First of all, Alienware is very overrated and has the value for money of a white elephant.

Secondly, by power I meant performance, not energy.

A laptop, as of now, is really closed and it is not easy to upgrade your components. Also, heating is still an issue, at least until we ditch silicon for good in favour of graphene. The cooling solutions currently utilized are not very efficient. Therefore, in laptops, it is a constant struggle by manufacturers to find a balance between performance, energy efficiency and form factor.

Also, gaming on a laptop is not a good idea since you cannot push it harder or you would risk burning it up due to the above mentioned heating. A desktop can be pushed in a similar way and it would still function in a stable manner without much risk of burning up.

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I sincerely doubt that is the case, hardcore gamers game on pcs due to performance issues(on multiple screens). Laptops are for short occasional bouts.

Yes..
 
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