Computer Upgrade for Gaming Purpose

[sparx]

To keep it simple get

Just for gaming:

1)Get any quad core processor, games are now optimised for muticore.

2)But they are not heavily dependent on a processor so processor power doesnt matter much. Just extra cores matter(Evident from Crysis2 leaked benchmarks) [you will get 10-15% increase in performance if you have a quad core than a Dual core but only 2-5% if you opt for a i5 quad core instead of a low end AMD Athlon X4, this also depends on the game you play]

3)Gaming depends mainly on power of GPU, so get as better GPU as possible in your budget, but since you are not going for HD monitor, an HD5770 should be more than enough

 

[saswat23]

Actuall Dell IN2020 costs 6k not 6.5k.
Also Benq 22'' HD costs 6.8k not 7.3k.

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[masterkd]

Component | Make | Price Processor |AMD Athlon II x4 640|4600
Motherboard |Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H|4500
RAM |2GB G.Skill F3-10666CL9S-2GBNQ DDR3|1100
HDD |seagate 7200.12 500GB|1700
Graphic Card |Sapphire HD5770|7500
PSU |FSP Saga II 500W|2100
Case |CM Elite 310|1500
Monitor |Benq G2220HD|7300
|Total| 29800

i'm including internal hdd instead of external one because it is much better build
if you need get external hdd later

 

[lordirecto]

^ can Sapphire HD5770 give a full HD picture?

 

[masterkd]

yes, why not??

 

[sparx]

At HD Resolution 5770 will give moderate performance in high end games i.e settings have to be medium quality to ensure good frame rates. But its more than enough for 20" non HD Screens, can max out settings in m most games.

 

[lordirecto]

I was not sure about the performance of HD 5770. So asked.

 

[masterkd]

check this
i think this will help you to know 5770 performance!!

 

[Joker]

DO AMD PROCESSORS WORK AS NICE AS INTEL'S? If we forget the budget, what would you recomend: i5 or Phenom II x4 955?

first and the foremost. BE SPECIFICIC and mention EXACT budget. u said 20-30k. (so broad) and then u again said 10k more. now u mean 40k or what? can u be exact about ur budget.

performance of a PC is determined by various factors which is determined by ur budget.

I am not familiar with AMD processors. Do they also work as nice as the Intel's?

depends on how much u want to shell out on processors. for less than 7k, AMD is better. above that, Intel is better.

Also, is the graphic card "Sapphire HD5670" only compatible with AMD processors?

IF ur motherboard has a PCI-EXPRESS slot (which every motherboard has these days), every graphic card works regardless of the processor.

Component | Make | Price Processor |AMD Athlon II x4 640|4600
Motherboard |Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H|4500
RAM |2GB G.Skill/corsair/kingston DDR3 RAM|1100
HDD |seagate 7200.12 500GB|1700
Graphic Card |Sapphire HD5770|7500
PSU |FSP Saga II 500W|2100
Case |CM Elite 310|1500
Monitor |Benq G2220HD|7300
|Total| 29800

i'm including internal hdd instead of external one because it is much better build
if you need get external hdd later

this is the best u can get if ur budget is only 30k and nothing more than that.

and dont go for cheap 700w PSU (power supply) brands like Zberonics, Intex, Quantum, Cooler Master etc. These brands are crap and u are risking the life of ur machine.

the following PSUs are good for ur config.

fsp saga II 500w @ 2200
corsair cX400 @ 2500
corsair vX450 @ 3400
seasonic s12ii @ 3200

 

[skeletor]

Sorry to all, getting some problems to understand...

Do you mean that I should go with the AMD processor with any GPU of ATI 5xxx series if I want gaming? Correct me if I am missunderstanding something...

I'll explain you the things in simple words. Gaming performance determined by two things CPU and the GPU.

Now you have a 32k budget and you want to play games.

Consider case 1:
Intel Core i5-2400 - 9.5k
Compatible H67 motherboard - 6.5k
2*2GB DDR3 RAM - 2.4k
500GB Hard disk - 1.8k
Full HD monitor - 7.3k
Cabinet - 1.8k
A good branded power supply - 3k

Total 32.5k.


Consider case 2:
AMD Athlon II X4 640 @ 4.6k
Compatible motherboard - 4.5k
2*2GB DDR3 RAM - 2.4k
500GB Hard disk - 1.8k
Full HD monitor - 7.3k
Cabinet 1.8k
A good branded power supply - 3k
ATi Radeon HD 6850 graphic card - 10k or nVidia GTX 460 - 9.5k

Total - 34k

Now, Intel Core i5-2400 is a MUCH MUCH stronger processor than AMD Athlon II X4 640 and costs MORE than twice. But still config 1 will not be able to play games. why? because it lacks a good graphic card and if you want to buy one, you need to spend more. Whereas, config 2 will play every game you throw at it. why? it has a very strong graphic card. Although as far as pure processing power (things like video encoding etc.) is concerned, config 1 is miles better but to play games you also need graphics performance.

so, what have you learned?
Performance is determined by budget and the right combination of the components for what you want to do.

Do you mean that I should go with the AMD processor with any GPU of ATI 5xxx series if I want gaming?

As far as this question is concerned, do you think a low-end ATi HD 5570 which costs 4k can match ATi HD 5770 which costs 8k?

Also, it is always better to do some research on your own before starting a thread/topic. It helps us and it will help you.

 

[Nipun]

first and the foremost. BE SPECIFICIC and mention EXACT budget. u said 20-30k. (so broad) and then u again said 10k more. now u mean 40k or what? can u be exact about ur budget.

Actually it was 20-30k, but the first config that was suggested by masterkd also included the stuff I already had, I asked him to remove those items and from the money saved from those items(10k) should be added to budget. So actually budget remained the same(almost)...

Also, it is always better to do some research on your own before starting a thread/topic. It helps us and it will help you.

I dont know any trusting site to refer to for reviews. You see, many sites give their products good ratings just to sell them out! So I didn't wanted to trust them and risk my PC.

But thanks for suggesting me these configs. I will now find the best assembler and will get it done!

 

[lordirecto]

I dont know any trusting site to refer to for reviews. You see, many sites give their products good ratings just to sell them out! So I didn't wanted to trust them and risk my PC.

Are you kidding us? Why dont you use google to see some preconfigured PCs atleast? Forget about individual components? Or why not just read some threads that are already here? Even that will help you!! Cmon dude, do some homework before you get forum members to answer you!!!

 

[skeletor]

Are you kidding us? Why dont you use google to see some preconfigured PCs atleast? Forget about individual components? Or why not just read some threads that are already here? Even that will help you!! Cmon dude, do some homework before you get forum members to answer you!!!

Not his mistake actually. The forum actually needs a newbie's guide to assembled computers which explains everything from socket, expansion slots to power supply. I'm thinking of writing one. We still keep on getting questions like "is this graphic card compatible with my processor?" and "i bought intex 700w PSU." But I'll agree, most basic queries can be easily Googled.

 

[rupankur]

Sorry to all, getting some problems to understand...

Do you mean that I should go with the AMD processor with any GPU of ATI 5xxx series if I want gaming? Correct me if I am missunderstanding something...

Yes true. now go for motherboard AMD 880 or 7XX series with crossfire technology even there is a single slot of PCIE x16 2.0 . eg. ASUS M4A88 TD-M EVO

 

[sunny4691]

Yes true. now go for motherboard AMD 880 or 7XX series with crossfire technology even there is a single slot of PCIE x16 2.0 . eg. ASUS M4A88 TD-M EVO

The motherboards you are talking about supports hybrid crossfire and its of no use if you go for mid-end or high-end gpu.And a single pciex slot cannot support a crossfire setup as two ati gpu are needed for a true crossfire.Hybrid crossfire mobo- gigabyte 880gm and crossfire mobo- gigabyte 880ga.
BTW I am also from moranhat, assam

 

[masterkd]

@ico, that'll be a hell lot of work..moreover we all were newbie once but none did spoonfeed us..we digged for information and we learned and the same thing we are still doing..that digging part is the fun..isn't it??

 

[lordirecto]

@ico: Just like masterkd says, spoonfeeding really takes the fun out of learning about technology.
So create a thread that will prompt people to use google and find stuff on their own, and not something that will just give info away.

 

[1993gregory]

not really.

no its diff 4GB IS COSTLIER THAN 2GB