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[vickybat]

@ arnab boss hi buddy

for your info the core i5 has already been launched along with two new i7 models i.e the i5 750 , i7 860 & 870. They all belong to the lynnfield family of 1156 socket processors.


Refer *www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5,2410-2.html

It should arrive in india in about 20 days.
So all you guys building a new rig should consider the lynnfields instead of the phenom 2's.

 

[sjoardar]

Now that's really a messy prob. I think your monitor's EDID chip may has some prob coz you are not getting some options when even you are connecting your monitor through D-Sub. Check your monitor.

BTW, are you getting the Adjust display size and position option when you are using your old crt ?

Yes, I saw that hint about a malfunctioning EDID chip in some other forums. I am still waiting for the LG service person's opinion on this, as they could not keep the appointment today because of the rain and water-logging since yesterday. They have rescheduled the visit to Friday. I shall decide on my course of action after that.

As for my old CRT, I mostly used the monitor hardware controls for the purpose whenever I needed to, and there was no problem ever. Consequently, I seldom if ever tried the NVIDIA Control Panel for the purpose. However, for the short period of about a month that I used my old CRT monitor connected to the GTX 295 graphics card through the D-sub cable, I think I have used the NVIDIA Control Panel at least once, but I have no recollection of anything amiss. As you suggested, it is would be a good idea to test that, just to be sure, but I am really reluctant to hoist that 21 inch CRT behemoth from where it is now resting on the floor at the corner of the room! Let me see. I shall keep the forum posted.

 

[topgear]

If I'm not wrong your gfx card has 2x DVI and one HDMI port.

I told you to connect that OLD crt coz it will give us confirmation about the working condition of DVI ports. As you told that CRT worked pefectly with DVI toD-Sub converter
then I think your gfx cards DVI ports are OK and ther's not need to re-connect that behemoth

As you are getting probs with your LCD's DVI connection I think the prob lies within your minitor. Get it checked and keep posting

 

[Arnab boss]

@vickybat...' hi dude..,

Why r u insisting on i5 procy...? Is it better than phenom 2 x4 955 b.e...!

As I have chosen phenom 955 or 965 procy with gigabytes ga ma 790fxt -ud4p...but I want the best I can get in my budget...' so i5 is 2.66 ghz were 955 is 3.2 ghz and 965 is 3.4ghz..., so how can u say it is best...?

4 gpu I will consider a gtx 260 as this one looks good in price and performance ....'

Any suggestion with prices as my budget is 65k max...'

 

[tkin]

@vickybat...' hi dude..,

Why r u insisting on i5 procy...? Is it better than phenom 2 x4 955 b.e...!

As I have chosen phenom 955 or 965 procy with gigabytes ga ma 790fxt -ud4p...but I want the best I can get in my budget...' so i5 is 2.66 ghz were 955 is 3.2 ghz and 965 is 3.4ghz..., so how can u say it is best...?

4 gpu I will consider a gtx 260 as this one looks good in price and performance ....'

Any suggestion with prices as my budget is 65k max...'

You're making the same mistake CPU manufacturers made a few years back, clock speed isn't everything, HThreading coupled with DDR3 RAM should show significant performance improvements;

Take a look;

*www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei5750_corei7870/

In this review Core i5 holds good against Phenom X4.

 

[vickybat]

@ arnab boss

hi bro

tkin buddy is right clock speed isnt everything.All that matters is the cpu architecture.
Intel's bloomfield & lynnfield cpu's are faster clock per clock over anything amd has to offer.The lynnfields on die pci express controller will bring great performance increments in single card setups.
Yes the core i5 750 performs way better than the amd phenom 2 965 be & will bludgeon it when overclocked.
visit this link *www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-870_9.html
You can even visit tomshardware to see the results.
For your budget of 65k iwant you seriously to consider the core i5 750 or even the i7 860 & believe me dude its gonna blow the phenom 2's out of the water.
Finally couple it with a good p55 based board from asus or gigabyte.

cheers...........

 

[topgear]

@ Arnab boss - Phenom II quad cpu's can be compared with intel's quad 9xxx series cpu's at max but not with core i7 or i5 as they are completely difference performance beast

 

[sjoardar]

If I'm not wrong your gfx card has 2x DVI and one HDMI port.

I told you to connect that OLD crt coz it will give us confirmation about the working condition of DVI ports. As you told that CRT worked pefectly with DVI toD-Sub converter
then I think your gfx cards DVI ports are OK and ther's not need to re-connect that behemoth

As you are getting probs with your LCD's DVI connection I think the prob lies within your minitor. Get it checked and keep posting

Thanks for the clarification friend. Yes indeed, my grfx card has two DVI ports and one HDMI port, and I have been using the DVI to D-Sub converter whenever using the D-Sub cable (for the old CRT as well as the new LCD monitor, both working fine).

One possibility remains though. I have so far always used one particular DVI port on my grfx card for the D-Sub cable (through the converter, that is) and the other for the DVI-to-HDMI cable supplied by LG. To-night I am going to switch those ports and cables just to check the remote possibility if one DVI port on my grfx card is malfunctioning. However, the fact that HDMI-to-HDMI does not work has no ifs or buts!

The LG service person checked my system to-day but, even after trying every hardware and software manipulation for nearly 2 hrs, was unable to fix the problem. He says a monitor firmware upgrade may solve the problem and he is going to try that within a few days after they get the appropriate patch from their head office. He noted down all the info and left for the day.

BTW one thing that I discovered is that I could resize the display to a non-standard resolution 1752X1022, by trial and error, that showed the full desktop but the quality, as expected, was awful! Of course, the option for changing the position of the desktop is still not available.

BTW I am sorry to report one error in one of my earlier posts. I wrote that when using the DVI-to-HDMI cable supplied by LG, the monitor doesn't work and enters the power saving mode. The fact is, it does enter the power saving mode but after more than half a minute it comes back on, albeit with the same problem as with HDMI-to-HDMI cable (desktop shifted to the left). It seems that after waiting for may be 20-25 sec I lost patience and gave up on it! I apologise for the wrong report, but the bottom-line remains the same: HDMI doesn't work on this monitor.

 

[Arnab boss]

@vickybat...'thanks buddy 4 this info but I am still confused abt p955 and i5...?
Which 1 will b better i5 or i7...' probably I won't overclock it...' but I need a faster cpu...' Amd or intel...?

@topgear.. Dude I knew Amd was toping the chart as I read in some reviews but now intel has taken the place but don't u think that p955 with 3.2ghz speed and 8mb cache mem will prove deadly...'

 

[vickybat]

@ Arnab boss

hi arnab buddy
The phenom 2 955be at 3.2 ghz and 6mb l3 cache stands no chance against the mighty core i5 & i7 from intel. Even at stock speeds the performance difference is around 14 to 40 percent for all apps. When overclocked the gap rises further.

SO the core i5 750 & i7 860 both trounce the phenom 2 965 be & the 955be at stock speeds owing to their superior architecture.
THE i5 750 would be the best bang for buck & the i7 860 which supports hyperthreading will cost more & will offer a bit more performance.

so get your eyes closed & go for the core i5 750 (amd's true nemesis)!

 

[rahul2002]

I am trying to update my PC and have finalised these components:
1. Gigabyte GA EP45-UD3P MOBO
2.Zotac GTS 250 1gb DDR3 GFX
3.Seagate 500 gb 7200.12 32mb cache HDD
4.Samsung 2033SW 20" LCD monitor
or
Acer H203H 20" LCD monitor

I have finalised this list after lot of study and want to stay put to this list without any changes. I want to know their present prices and where i can get them in kolkata.

 

[Arnab boss]

@vickybat ..,got it dude...'

Now don't u think that i7 920 is better than i5 750...?

if I am going 4 intel then whynot i7 and it also has the htpreading and good overclocker...'

Now some good config in i7 920 with mobo which supports both sli/xfire..' and ofcourse gigabytes mobo..'~

U can give i5 config also...'

 

[topgear]

MSI has a good mobo for core i7 called x58 pro -e which is around 13K


@ sjoardar - Let's see what will happen after the firmware upgrade

 

[vickybat]

@ arnab boss

hi buddy

finally you are heading the intel way

For the cpu you can go for the i7 920 but i reckon its a workstation processor.
For your gaming needs go for the lynnfield i7's or i5's due to the onboard pci exprss controller in the cpu die which directly communicates with the gpu.

So i say you go with the new breed of cpus i.e the i7 860 or i5 750.The 860 supports hyperthreading while the 750 does not & they should cost less than the 920 but performance is more or less similar in real world apps.

Finally for the board in case of bloomfield 920 go for the msi x58 pro as topgear buddy said & at 13k its the cheapest x58 board.

And for lynnfield i7 or i5 go for gigabyte's ga ma p55 ud3.
Either way you cant go wrong but still go for lynnfield cpus preferably the i7 860 in case you want hyperthreding & turbo boost or the i5 750 with turbo boost sans hyperthreading.

@ rahul 2002

hi buddy you didnt mentioned your cpu & budget for the rig.

 

[Arnab boss]

^^^ In gigabyte and good config of i7 core @ 65k max 70k...'

 

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[sjoardar]

@ sjoardar - Let's see what will happen after the firmware upgrade

Yup, I am anxiously waiting for the firmware upgrade, but I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Switching the cables on the two DVI ports of my grfx card didn't help, not that I really expected it to. In retrospect that was a silly option, but since nothing else is working, I thought what the heck!

 

[rahul2002]

@ arnab boss

hi buddy

finally you are heading the intel way

For the cpu you can go for the i7 920 but i reckon its a workstation processor.
For your gaming needs go for the lynnfield i7's or i5's due to the onboard pci exprss controller in the cpu die which directly communicates with the gpu.

So i say you go with the new breed of cpus i.e the i7 860 or i5 750.The 860 supports hyperthreading while the 750 does not & they should cost less than the 920 but performance is more or less similar in real world apps.

Finally for the board in case of bloomfield 920 go for the msi x58 pro as topgear buddy said & at 13k its the cheapest x58 board.

And for lynnfield i7 or i5 go for gigabyte's ga ma p55 ud3.
Either way you cant go wrong but still go for lynnfield cpus preferably the i7 860 in case you want hyperthreding & turbo boost or the i5 750 with turbo boost sans hyperthreading.

@ rahul 2002

hi buddy you didnt mentioned your cpu & budget for the rig.

Well!!! my budget is aeound 30k and my CPU is intel E7400 which i dont want to change now.just wating for the quad core prices to fall before upgrading.

 

[vickybat]

@ arnab boss

hi bro
go with the following config

processor- core i7 860 @ 2.8ghz 8mb l3 cache
mobo- gigabyte ga-p55 ud3 series(go with the cheapest & contact thunder.02dragon as he can arrange one)
gpu-nvidia gtx 260 or 275(palit or zotac)
ram- corasir 2x2gb ddr3 1333mhz(you can go for 1600mhz but they are bit expensive)
hdd- seagate baracuuda 1TB 7200 RPM
cabinet- coolermaster cm690 or zebronics bizli(the latter is half the price of the former)
smps-corsair hx 620
monitor- aoc 2233fm
ups- apc 800va


@ rahul2002

hi buddy

instead of e7400, go for e7500 as the price diiference is negligible & the latter is 2.93ghz
if you want a quad then go for it right now as intel will stop production for lga 775 socket in favour of the core i7 & i5's(lga 1366 & 1156).
Go for intel core 2 quad q8400 @ 2.66ghz 4mb l2 for around 2k more than than the e7400.
For the monitor go with the acer.

Cheers.................