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[sjoardar]

thunder.02dragon - is the owner of Exodus Technologies ( I came to know that from a pm )

Yup keep us informed with your rigs news update
BTW, have you bought the other components ?

Heh, heh, you see, I was dead right regarding thunder.02dragon! Of course, 36 years' teaching experience helps!

The progress report of my new rig? There is Good News and there is Bad News.

The good news first: Finally I got my hands on to a Zotac GeForce GTX 295 via Exodus Technologies with prompt and free home delivery. The damage to my bank account? Rs. 31,408/- (including VAT). Since this card has been around for more than a little while (in fact, the next generation GPUs, GTX 3** series, are in the pipeline), I hope I shall not be seated with the misfortune of early adopters.

My first reaction on opening the box: My, my! that's BIG! Unfortunately, that is the only reaction I can share with you right now. Why? The answer to that question is the Bad News.

Now the Bad News: Neither Vedant nor Exodus Technologies have yet been able to get me the mobo of my choice, the Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5. Everything else (including Corsair HX1000W) essential for setting up my new rig (I am not counting the monitor or KB and mouse as essential or urgent at this point) is ready. But when, oh when, shall I have my new system up and running?

Believe it or not, I face this kind of situation every time I build a new PC, or even try a major upgrade. So, are my plans always jinxed? May be I plan too long for the components of my choice, and by the time I am in the market with ready cash, some of those components seem to have vanished!

At this point, I am not considering either GA-EX58 Extreme or ASUS Rampage II Extreme, both of which excel only in additional features that do not really translate into better performance. In the bargain, they cost significantly higher. I am not going to splurge money merely on features since I am quite satisfied with the features of GA-EX58-UD5 - except may be restriction of the speed of the memory bus to 1333 MHz; I would love to have 1600 MHz memory.

BTW what is your opinion about MSI EX58 Pro? Test reports put its performance close to that of ASUS Rampage II Extreme, but quite a few features are missing. No automatic OC, for example, but it is significantly cheaper, mind you! Do you think it is actually "cheapo"? What about Asus P6T Deluxe? Of course, I shall have to check out whether it is available in Kolkata, although I doubt it. May be above my budget too.

The grapevine has it, Gigabyte is planning a "New and Improved" version of GA-EX58-UD5 "soon". Knowing what that often means, I am not very hopeful or enthusiastic. Does any one else have any scoop on this?

 

[thunder.02dragon]

ASUS those are imported for Kolkata are crap...too much DOA

 

[topgear]

Heh, heh, you see, I was dead right regarding thunder.02dragon! Of course, 36 years' teaching experience helps!

The progress report of my new rig? There is Good News and there is Bad News.

The good news first: Finally I got my hands on to a Zotac GeForce GTX 295 via Exodus Technologies with prompt and free home delivery. The damage to my bank account? Rs. 31,408/- (including VAT). Since this card has been around for more than a little while (in fact, the next generation GPUs, GTX 3** series, are in the pipeline), I hope I shall not be seated with the misfortune of early adopters.

My first reaction on opening the box: My, my! that's BIG! Unfortunately, that is the only reaction I can share with you right now. Why? The answer to that question is the Bad News.

Now the Bad News: Neither Vedant nor Exodus Technologies have yet been able to get me the mobo of my choice, the Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5. Everything else (including Corsair HX1000W) essential for setting up my new rig (I am not counting the monitor or KB and mouse as essential or urgent at this point) is ready. But when, oh when, shall I have my new system up and running?

Believe it or not, I face this kind of situation every time I build a new PC, or even try a major upgrade. So, are my plans always jinxed? May be I plan too long for the components of my choice, and by the time I am in the market with ready cash, some of those components seem to have vanished!

At this point, I am not considering either GA-EX58 Extreme or ASUS Rampage II Extreme, both of which excel only in additional features that do not really translate into better performance. In the bargain, they cost significantly higher. I am not going to splurge money merely on features since I am quite satisfied with the features of GA-EX58-UD5 - except may be restriction of the speed of the memory bus to 1333 MHz; I would love to have 1600 MHz memory.

BTW what is your opinion about MSI EX58 Pro? Test reports put its performance close to that of ASUS Rampage II Extreme, but quite a few features are missing. No automatic OC, for example, but it is significantly cheaper, mind you! Do you think it is actually "cheapo"? What about Asus P6T Deluxe? Of course, I shall have to check out whether it is available in Kolkata, although I doubt it. May be above my budget too.

The grapevine has it, Gigabyte is planning a "New and Improved" version of GA-EX58-UD5 "soon". Knowing what that often means, I am not very hopeful or enthusiastic. Does any one else have any scoop on this?

MSI X58 is very good mobo ( actually it's best in it's price range ) & it's quality is also very good. If you can't find any other one then get this.
This one costs 11-12K.

If you don't want to go with MSi then get the EVGA x58 mobo instead. It's better than GA-EX58-UD5 & P6T. It may cost you Rs. 22K

 

[thunder.02dragon]

So guys...what if I tell you about.....
EVGA X58 Classified..
??
:8

 

[sjoardar]

MSI X58 is very good mobo ( actually it's best in it's price range ) & it's quality is also very good. If you can't find any other one then get this.
This one costs 11-12K.

If you don't want to go with MSi then get the EVGA x58 mobo instead. It's better than GA-EX58-UD5 & P6T. It may cost you Rs. 22K

Thanks! I finally settled for eVGA X58 3X SLI mobo which cost me Rs. 22,360 (including VAT). I got all the stuff home and my new rig is up and I have started using it, but I cannot really say it is "running"! There are certain issues (I am yet to set up RAID 0, for example). If need be, I shall bring them up at an appropriate forum later.

Still no new monitor or KB & mouse, and my CPU is running with Intel's stock cooler.

I had originally chosen 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM because I was not sure whether GA-EX58-UD5 will support 1600 MHz natively. After switching to the eVGA mobo, I wanted to switch to 1600 MHz DDR3 RAM (Corsair Dominator) and Randhir at Vedant told me that he would try to exchange the RAM kit, but in the end he was unable to do that. So I am stuck with 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM. Of course, I am going to OC it to higher speeds after my PC settles down at the base configuration.

I shall post the details of my purchase at the forum "Post your latest Purchase".

Finally, I want to express my grateful thanks to topgear for numerous valuable advice and buying tips right from the beginning of my plans. I am also thankful to the owner of Exodus PC for lending me a hand in setting up my new system. Thanks to you all!

 

[topgear]

Asus has one 24 inch TN panel which has vertical & horizontal swivel option.
The model is VK266H & the price is around 25K.

Logitech G15 Gaming KeyBoard ( though it was designed for gaming it has so many useful features that even non gamers will benefit from it ) Rs. 4.5K

Logitech MX518 Mouse Rs. 1.4K or G5 Rs. 3K

Or get Logitech cordless MX 3200 ( KB+Mouse ) combo @ Rs. 4.5K or Ex100 combo @ Rs. 1.5K.

For the cooler wait hold your horses for a little bit more ( I will suggest you what you can buy from here )..............or else you can buy SBCCF 120mm with 1366 bracket from
the links I've already posted here

 

[thunder.02dragon]

I am happy to build up this Rig sir, its my pleasure to help you...

 

[sjoardar]

Asus has one 24 inch TN panel which has vertical & horizontal swivel option.
The model is VK266H & the price is around 25K.

Logitech G15 Gaming KeyBoard ( though it was designed for gaming it has so many useful features that even non gamers will benefit from it ) Rs. 4.5K

Logitech MX518 Mouse Rs. 1.4K or G5 Rs. 3K

Or get Logitech cordless MX 3200 ( KB+Mouse ) combo @ Rs. 4.5K or Ex100 combo @ Rs. 1.5K.

For the cooler wait hold your horses for a little bit more ( I will suggest you what you can buy from here )..............or else you can buy SBCCF 120mm with 1366 bracket from
the links I've already posted here

Thanks for your continued support. I am a bit confused regarding Asus VK266H though, because on internet search I find that it is a 26 inch monitor (as I guessed from the model number). There are four models: 26 inch VK266H and VW266H; 24 inch VK246H and VW246H. The problem is, all the reviews and specs that I have seen on the 'net, the only base adjustment mentioned is tilt, for all the models! If you kindly give me the link to the web site you saw it on, I shall very much appreciate that. However, don't you think 25K is a little too much to pay for a TN panel?

Regarding Lynx India, I had called Amarbir as suggested by you to find out if they do CoD, because it was not clear from their web site that they do. Unfortunately, instead of answering my question directly, Amarbir brusquely said "Go to our web site, add the component you want to the cart and select an appropriate mode of payment. Otherwise, there is no need to order"!! Otherwise, there is no need to order? Coming from a vendor to a prospective customer (I had mentioned, at the very beginning, that I am calling from Kolkata and that I was looking for this CPU cooler), that was rather rude, I reckoned. Therefore, I politely said "OK, bye!" and hung up.

Regarding the KB & Mouse, Randhir at Vedant still holds that I shall get Logitech MX5500 Revolution within a week, although he has no such assurance to offer for the monitor. So I am willing to wait for another week, and if I still do not get Logitech MX5500 Revolution then I shall switch the model of my choice.

My new computer is now set up for RAID 0, thanks again to Thunder02.Dragon.

Unfortunately, the copy of Windows 7 RC I got from Digit (June 2009) DVD is apparently only a 32-bit version, because although it accepts Microsoft's Product Code for 64-bit Windows 7 RC, it is still running as a 32-bit OS on my new computer! If anyone on the Digit forum has a copy of the Windows 7 RC 64-bit version, I shall be interested in getting a copy.

I have posted my latest purchase on the Digit forum "Post your latest purchase" only this evening. I apologise for the delay.

 

[topgear]

Thanks for your continued support. I am a bit confused regarding Asus VK266H though, because on internet search I find that it is a 26 inch monitor (as I guessed from the model number). There are four models: 26 inch VK266H and VW266H; 24 inch VK246H and VW246H. The problem is, all the reviews and specs that I have seen on the 'net, the only base adjustment mentioned is tilt, for all the models! If you kindly give me the link to the web site you saw it on, I shall very much appreciate that. However, don't you think 25K is a little too much to pay for a TN panel?

Sorry for the mistake, It's a 26inch model I've told you about & it comes with a 2MP camera, HDmi connectivity etc. etc. I've read about it on this month's digit mag where they have quoted that it has vertical & horizontal swivel base.

Regarding Lynx India, I had called Amarbir as suggested by you to find out if they do CoD, because it was not clear from their web site that they do. Unfortunately, instead of answering my question directly, Amarbir brusquely said "Go to our web site, add the component you want to the cart and select an appropriate mode of payment. Otherwise, there is no need to order"!! Otherwise, there is no need to order? Coming from a vendor to a prospective customer (I had mentioned, at the very beginning, that I am calling from Kolkata and that I was looking for this CPU cooler), that was rather rude, I reckoned. Therefore, I politely said "OK, bye!" and hung up.

That's really sad. Many of our forum members bought stuffs from him so I recommend lynx-india. But if you got behavior like this don't need to buy anything from him.

Wait for the cooler & I will brief you on this later.

Regarding the KB & Mouse, Randhir at Vedant still holds that I shall get Logitech MX5500 Revolution within a week, although he has no such assurance to offer for the monitor. So I am willing to wait for another week, and if I still do not get Logitech MX5500 Revolution then I shall switch the model of my choice.

My new computer is now set up for RAID 0, thanks again to Thunder02.Dragon.

Unfortunately, the copy of Windows 7 RC I got from Digit (June 2009) DVD is apparently only a 32-bit version, because although it accepts Microsoft's Product Code for 64-bit Windows 7 RC, it is still running as a 32-bit OS on my new computer! If anyone on the Digit forum has a copy of the Windows 7 RC 64-bit version, I shall be interested in getting a copy.

I have posted my latest purchase on the Digit forum "Post your latest purchase" only this evening. I apologise for the delay.

Yup, get the KB+Mouse of your choice. It's greatly depends of personal choice

You can get win 7 RC x64 if you know where to look for
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BTW, can anybody tell me who is the distributor of Glacialtech products in here ?

Even a shop name or address which has some decent amount of glacialtech products like fan, hsf will also do.
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BTW, can anybody tell me who is the distributor of Glacialtech products in here ?

Even a shop name or address which has some decent amount of glacialtech products like fan, hsf will also do.

 

[sjoardar]

You can get win 7 RC x64 if you know where to look for

Sorry friend, but the only source I know of from where I can get win 7 RC x64 is Microsoft web site, AND my problem is I have a BSNL Home 250 DataOne BB service with a mere 1 GB free data transfer limit, so it would be prohibitive in terms of download cost and time to download win 7 RC x64. That is why I was hoping that if somebody already has a copy, he/she may be willing to let me have a copy. May be it is time I start considering subscription to the unlimited download service.

BTW, can anybody tell me who is the distributor of Glacialtech products in here ?

Even a shop name or address which has some decent amount of glacialtech products like fan, hsf will also do.

I have asked around for Glacialtech distributor and any vendor who stocks Glacialtech fans etc in Kolkata, but have had no luck so far. There is no Glacialtech distributor in Kolkata, that's for sure. I shall keep my eyes peeled about Glacialtech vendors and let you know if I discover something.

 

[topgear]

Sorry friend, but the only source I know of from where I can get win 7 RC x64 is Microsoft web site, AND my problem is I have a BSNL Home 250 DataOne BB service with a mere 1 GB free data transfer limit, so it would be prohibitive in terms of download cost and time to download win 7 RC x64. That is why I was hoping that if somebody already has a copy, he/she may be willing to let me have a copy. May be it is time I start considering subscription to the unlimited download service.

I have asked around for Glacialtech distributor and any vendor who stocks Glacialtech fans etc in Kolkata, but have had no luck so far. There is no Glacialtech distributor in Kolkata, that's for sure. I shall keep my eyes peeled about Glacialtech vendors and let you know if I discover something.

Yup, Buddy I understood your prob about win 7 x64.

Thanks for searching glacialtech products

 

[thunder.02dragon]

If you ask some products tell me I might arrange you one...

 

[topgear]

^ Thanks buddy. I was just surprised to see that though glacialtech has some really good products they are not availale in our local market. So I was just trying to find if someone deals with glacial tech products.

Thanks once again for your generous offer....
May be later I will need some products & I will keep you in mind.

 

[Raptor1989]

Hi guys, I shall buy the following after the pujas, have a look

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
MSI P45 Neo - F
Palit 9600GT 512MB DDR3 256Bit
Corsair VX550
Cooler Master Ceturian 590
Hynix DDR2 2x2GB 800 Mhz
LG 22x DVD-RAM SATA

I already have a good monitor, HDD and 1 500VA HP UPS for my monitor (it is old, and so needs a separate UPS for backup) and 600VA Microtek UPS for my CPU, speakers and modem.

My problem starts here. Can I get a SMPS with higher wattage though my UPS is of 600VA? I am looking for some good (Thermaltake, Cooler Masters, GlacialTech) 120mm fans (LED and Hi-Per)? Can you get me the prices of the above parts and the fans in Kolkata? That shall be greatly helpful.

 

[topgear]

Don't know about other fans but CM 200RPM led fans are around Rs. 500 & Non Led 1200RPM fans are Rs. 300.

Your UPS can give you max 360W. But you can use a higher rated PSU as long as your components overall power requirement does not cross 360W

 

[Raptor1989]

Don't know about other fans but CM 200RPM led fans are around Rs. 500 & Non Led 1200RPM fans are Rs. 300.

Your UPS can give you max 360W. But you can use a higher rated PSU as long as your components overall power requirement does not cross 360W

I think you made a mistake, CM led fans with *2000* RPM, is it??? Yes, I was thinking about buying the blue or green one. Can you tell me the prices of the rest of the parts that I wrote about? Obviously, in Kolkata. I am not going to buy from Supreme or Saboo. I was thinking about buying from Tirupati Enterprises, or Aditya Infotech.

About the PSU, can you describe more about the PC power consumption, I am very confused. How much power will my machine draw with the said configuration??? And please please tell me the current prices of the parts I am going to buy. I stay a long way (2 hrs train journey) from Kolkata, and going there personally just to get the quotation is not possible for me as I do have my college. So please everybody, get me the current prices in Kolkata. I would be a great help

 

[thunder.02dragon]

Lol..buddy Aditya Infotech does not selles direct to customers..we are there to help you na..buy frm us retailers..
Let me tell you 600VA is not enough for even 75% load of the 550W
My 600VA gives 2min backup on my config on idle...(check my config on signature)
on 65% load thats light gaming my UPS just shutsdown when current goes.
So minimum of 800VA or more is req for your setup and that will cost you good...
Btw....
My Quotes are:
E8400 C0 Stepping(E8400 rare to find)- 8600/-
CM Centurion 590 - 4250/-
Zotac 9600GT 512MB with 5years Extended Warranty(Palit is cheap by 200 but warranty is 2years)- 5100/-
Corsair VX550 - 5650/-
Corsair XMS2 2x2GB - 2675/-
LG DVDRW Sata - 1115/-
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L - 7100/- (Stability is better than the MSI still 5600/-)

Now add VAT 4% to the Total Cost...
Assembling Charges extra with Careful Cable Management....

The CM Green/Red/Blue Fans for 525/- +Tax
Exodus Technologies

 

[Raptor1989]

Lol..buddy Aditya Infotech does not selles direct to customers..we are there to help you na..buy frm us retailers..
Let me tell you 600VA is not enough for even 75% load of the 550W
My 600VA gives 2min backup on my config on idle...(check my config on signature)
on 65% load thats light gaming my UPS just shutsdown when current goes.
So minimum of 800VA or more is req for your setup and that will cost you good...
Btw....
My Quotes are:
E8400 C0 Stepping(E8400 rare to find)- 8600/-
CM Centurion 590 - 4250/-
Zotac 9600GT 512MB with 5years Extended Warranty(Palit is cheap by 200 but warranty is 2years)- 5100/-
Corsair VX550 - 5650/-
Corsair XMS2 2x2GB - 2675/-
LG DVDRW Sata - 1115/-
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L - 7100/- (Stability is better than the MSI still 5600/-)

Now add VAT 4% to the Total Cost...
Assembling Charges extra with Careful Cable Management....

The CM Green/Red/Blue Fans for 525/- +Tax
Exodus Technologies

Did you overclock your pc??? So how much would a 800VA UPS cost??? I just want to build a gaming PC wihin 30K. I heard MSI P45 Neo-F is good, so I was going for it. I wanted a 2.0 GHz Intel core2duo processor so went for E8400. 9600GT ddr3 is cheap and a great graphics card. So you tell me, keeping these the same what else should I buy. Yes, the ram is in consideration(4GB ddr2). Give me the rest of the parts with a total budjet of 30k.

BTW, these prices are from which retailers???

 

[thunder.02dragon]

These prices I quote to you as of today....
later might be more/less...
I m a retailer
Yes I do OCing..its my Fav thing for this thing spend 90K in 3months..
right now running E8400 @ 4.10GHz

 

[topgear]

I think you made a mistake, CM led fans with *2000* RPM, is it??? Yes, I was thinking about buying the blue or green one. Can you tell me the prices of the rest of the parts that I wrote about? Obviously, in Kolkata. I am not going to buy from Supreme or Saboo. I was thinking about buying from Tirupati Enterprises, or Aditya Infotech.

About the PSU, can you describe more about the PC power consumption, I am very confused. How much power will my machine draw with the said configuration??? And please please tell me the current prices of the parts I am going to buy. I stay a long way (2 hrs train journey) from Kolkata, and going there personally just to get the quotation is not possible for me as I do have my college. So please everybody, get me the current prices in Kolkata. I would be a great help

No I bought a 2000 RPM CM 120mm Blue Led fan & it was Rs. 500 from M.D. Computers.

Your sys will consume around 290W so I would recommend you buying Corsair VX450W

For the prices look at thunder.02dragon post