BSNL Broadband to offer minimum Internet Speed as '2Mbps'

[Flash]

BSNL Chaupla exchange catches fire, locals panic - The Times of India

I guess someone got fed up with 2Mbps gimmick, and wanted to teach them a lesson!

 

[swatkats]

BSNL Chaupla exchange catches fire, locals panic - The Times of India

I guess someone got fed up with 2Mbps gimmick, and wanted to teach them a lesson!

Insurance hai na. Tension nahi hai.

I think you are waay overestimating ACT. The only way it will work if they remove the corrupted top brass.

My comment was WRT to cutting down expenses and being strict. It's not only about removing corrupt officials but resurrecting their whole staff. Also i am not overestimating ACT, they contribute by 30% to so called 2mbps national average.

 

[tkin]

Insurance hai na. Tension nahi hai.


My comment was WRT to cutting down expenses and being strict. It's not only about removing corrupt officials but resurrecting their whole staff. Also i am not overestimating ACT, they contribute by 40% to so called 2mbps national average.

Got a source for that? I doubt their customer base would be that huge.

 

[Rockstar11]

i am on bb combo uld 845 i get 1mbps till 6gb not 12gb wtf is this

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post the damn letter mods we want to see this, personally i would visit every broadband thread and spread the word of this shitty fup limit.
just give us 2mbps unlimited for 1000 including taxes

BBG Combo ULD 845 upto 2 Mbps till 12 GB, 512 Kbps beyond (areas of AP circle)

 

[swatkats]

That's a estimation. My method of comparison is totally on the bandwidth capacity these companies have in use.

 

[whitestar_999]

ACT has not even 10% of BSNL customer base.

India's telecom subscriber base reaches 96.42 crore in November - timesofindia-economictimes

BSNL led broadband subscriber segment with 1.87 crore subscribers, followed by Airtel with 1.82 crore, Vodafone 1.56, Idea Cellular 1.23 crore and RCom 67.7 lakh

ACT Broadband | 25 MBPS | IPTV | Digital TV | Analog TV | Internet Connection | Broadband High Speed

ACT presently has a gratifying 1 million+ subscribers

 

[chimera201]

Got a source for that? I doubt their customer base would be that huge.

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[tkin]

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This exactly opposes the claim. This means that BSNL has more data delivered to it(chart sorted by total data consumption) even with lower speed compared to the higher speed ACT. The only one that could theoretically have more customers is Airtel as we do not know the exact data consumption amount. Simply speaking this chart proves BSNL has the highest or second highest customer base among steam gamers in all over India.

If ACT had more customers they would top the chart with their high download amount.

 

[chimera201]

This exactly opposes the claim. This means that BSNL has more data delivered to it(chart sorted by total data consumption) even with lower speed compared to the higher speed ACT. The only one that could theoretically have more customers is Airtel as we do not know the exact data consumption amount. Simply speaking this chart proves BSNL has the highest or second highest customer base among steam gamers in all over India.

If ACT had more customers they would top the chart with their high download amount.

He claimed that ACT contributes by 30% - that's pretty much correct. Also note that Steam detects ACT and Beam Cable as different networks.

BSNL does have the highest subscriber count. But the question is does it generate the highest network traffic in India?

 

[swatkats]

The whole point of my average speed argument is related to only & only Retail Wired segment.

You guys are taking Steam data for reference.. which is completely inaccurate.

Firstly, The total bandwidth in India in use (Lit) is 1.6Tbps (link ref1.46), this bandwidth is used for 3G,4G,2G wired line and WiMax Etc.. by various operators.
From what i know BSNL hs total capacity of 240Gbps, while MTNL has around 60Gbps Etc Etc for use which is also used for 3G/Wired/Wimax Etc.

Of all BSNL has just 150Gbps for wired broadband, MTNL has just 50Gbps, Airtel has around 120Gbps for wired subscribers. Finally ACT has around 170+Gbps in use for their customers.


The above figures beat my own estimations of ACT contributing to national average. As for any sources, You can file RTI to BSNL and MTNL and find out their present capacities and how much of bandwidth is in use for Wired segment (ADSL+FTTH).

 

[SaiyanGoku]

^ Even when BSNL gets bandwidth for Rs 200/megabit per month (as per the 240 gbps link), why is it still unable to provide true unlimited 1 mbps at least pan India while charging 5-6 times more than that?

 

[tkin]

He claimed that ACT contributes by 30% - that's pretty much correct. Also note that Steam detects ACT and Beam Cable as different networks.

BSNL does have the highest subscriber count. But the question is does it generate the highest network traffic in India?

That's the issue isn't it? There are no specifics.

Let's say these are the consumption:

X-500TB
Y-200TB
Z-150TB
W-120TB
Rest-30TB

Here Z comes third while contributing only 15% while Y comes second by contributing 20%, X comes first by contributing 50%. Since the steam chart is sorted according to data consumption, BSNL has the second highest contribution, period. It can be 50%, it can be 10% but it will be higher than all the items below it. But yes, if you consider Beam and ACT together they can overthrow BSNL, take my example. here Z+W is higher than Y. So, that chart is inconclusive. Its not correct to claim by comparing speed alone as the data consumption as well as subscriber count are not mentioned.

Provided ACT only provides data in a few cities and BSNL provides throughout India, I assume that BSNL consumes the highest data.

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There is something very wrong with the Indian internet industry.

Take for example my local provider Wishnet. They purchase bandwidth from Airtel and offer 1mbps true UL for ~850/- incl of all taxes. They also provide 6mbps night ul from 1:00AM to 9:00AM, and stuff like caching and local peering. Yet somehow they make profit. Not only that they recently decreased the cost of most of their plans by ~30%, so how are they pulling it off while Airtel provides $hit wired plans in Kolkata?

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Not just wishnet, all local providers in Kolkata buy traffic from Airtel or Reliance and they make profit. How are they doing it?

Question I'd also like and answer is from whom does ACT purchases bandwidths? They don't own cables or have any stake in the NIB I or II. They are bandwidth reseller. Who do they buy their traffic from?

 

[whitestar_999]

Bandwidth prices: Why we pay more for internet services - Page 2 - timesofindia-economictimes

The other big problem is charges related to cable-landing stations. These are the points at which submarine cables enter and exit the mainland, and the owners of such stations often impose hefty fees for allowing ISP traffic to pass in or out. There are 10 such stations, but the market is dominated by two players, Bharti Airtel and Tata Communications, which together have a 93% market share.

every Indian isp need to pay charges at these cable landing stations,traffic rates within India are relatively very cheap.NIB is bsnl's internal network & has nothing to do with bandwidth reselling.even bsnl has to pay fees at these cable landing stations.

 

[tkin]

Bandwidth prices: Why we pay more for internet services - Page 2 - timesofindia-economictimes

Govt should nationalize the undersea cables and make it a fair play. Not that it will be fair to the companies owning the cables. That's how tata makes up for their pi$$ poor docomo which I doubt makes any profit. Airtel on the other hand squeezes every ounce of profit out of all its holdings.

 

[whitestar_999]

you can not nationalize undersea cables,why do you think net is still neutral.instead govt should open bsnl landline network to pvt players to hire for providing broadband services.

 

[tkin]

you can not nationalize undersea cables,why do you think net is still neutral.instead govt should open bsnl landline network to pvt players to hire for providing broadband services.

Then it will result in Oligopoly. Ever wonder why Vodafone and Airtel data plans mimic each other very closely.

 

[Saahib]

I think many guys took it seriously ie. about THIS POST ..

However, on serious note, this time thread is very informative .



I am in view that nothing will change unless there is a real good PAN India player and currently only hope is JIO, with there Fiber Cable network being dug everywhere, I am sure that they will push hard for data services.

 

[tkin]

I think many guys took it seriously ie. about THIS POST ..

However, on serious note, this time thread is very informative .



I am in view that nothing will change unless there is a real good PAN India player and currently only hope is JIO, with there Fiber Cable network being dug everywhere, I am sure that they will push hard for data services.

Who do you think pays for their investments? Also reliance does not have much stake in undersea cables, that price gate will be there. With JIO FUP will be there, but at much high amount. I'm more worried about latency and contention ratio.

 

[Saahib]

Who do you think pays for their investments? Also reliance does not have much stake in undersea cables, that price gate will be there. With JIO FUP will be there, but at much high amount. I'm more worried about latency and contention ratio.

But they are not a small player either like ACT or spectranet .

 

[Utkarsh2008]

Can anybody throw some light on how Spectranet is able to provide no FUP connections with 20mbps & 50mbps down speeds at nominal rates 1249/- and 1849/- respectively per month. Pings are sub 10ms.