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[Zangetsu]

@MetalheadGautham: its not goin 2 b a OC rig...

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/- (bijli ???) --> will it handle 4850 card well
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/- --> done
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/- ---> "tri-core" does it compete any C2D proc
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K ---> ok
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K ---> y not GT

Total Rs. 18,200/- --->good

If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. --> if i add 1k for mobo & 4k for 4850 then budget will go abt 25k

If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo --> r they both perfect duo...
any other mobo with 4850...???

 

[MetalheadGautham]

@MetalheadGautham: its not goin 2 b a OC rig...

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/- (bijli ???) --> will it handle 4850 card well
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/- --> done
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/- ---> "tri-core" does it compete any C2D proc
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K ---> ok
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K ---> y not GT

Total Rs. 18,200/- --->good

If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. --> if i add 1k for mobo & 4k for 4850 then budget will go abt 25k

If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo --> r they both perfect duo...
any other mobo with 4850...???

400W - I doubt it can handle 4850 well. If you are getting 4850, get bijli (yes its name of cabinet) WITHOUT PSU for 1.2K and spend Rs. 700 more on a decent 600W 0r 500W PSU.

Tri-Core beats E7200 if you are not an overclocker.

The reason I said 4850 with 780G is because AMD has this feature to turn off power to GPU when not in use. Saves lots of money in electricity bill. But for this, you need an AMD card, and nVidia card won't work. The same goes for GF8200, which is nVidia chipset. So get GF8200 with nVidia card.

I said 9600GSO instead of 9600GT because it fulfills your need (high settings @ 1024x768) and is cheaper by 2K. If you have 3K more, buy yourself an 8800GT. Its still hot after an entire year. 9600GT is just not worth it and its there only to compete with HD3870. Its a white elephant thrown between 9600GSO and 8800GT in cost and performance.

 

[Sandeepfrompune]

Sandeep I would suggest P45 based Asus mobo's not P5K series for you models are Asus P5Q and P5Q Pro, most of the people would recommend P5Q Pro.
.....

Thx. BTW here a link *techshop.in/store/index.php?cPath=21_30&sort=3a&filter_id=

can someone tell me which mobos are good here ? like MSI neo 45 or something - which
one exactly? and for asus options also which ones exactly. - Post the model no.s from
there or links. - Thanks again.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

@MetalheadGautham: its not goin 2 b a OC rig...

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/- (bijli ???) --> will it handle 4850 card well
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/- --> done
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/- ---> "tri-core" does it compete any C2D proc
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K ---> ok
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K ---> y not GT

Total Rs. 18,200/- --->good

If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. --> if i add 1k for mobo & 4k for 4850 then budget will go abt 25k

If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo --> r they both perfect duo...
any other mobo with 4850...???

Man if u ask me i suggest to go for E7200 instead of X3 8450. The E7200 runs cooler & consumes less power than X3 8450. Besides if u choose AMD then u will have to raise ur budget for 4850 & for that u need a better PSU, because HD4850 needs atleast 450W, so u gonna need a CM Xtreme 600W or Corsair VX450(min.). Or u can wait for RV730 & drop the idea of HD4850.

Metal head has indeed suggest u the 9600GSO & its the best card into that budget & suits ur requirement perfectly.
Think it of this way, E7200 can be overclocked pretty well but the same can't be said about the X3 8450, & even if u need to overclock in future, u still have enough room for overclocking & moderate overclocking won't hurt anyone.
Also E7200 isn't far behind of X3 8450 performance wise & also E7200 suits ur budget.

Thx. BTW here a link *techshop.in/store/index.php?cPath=21_30&sort=3a&filter_id=

can someone tell me which mobos are good here ? like MSI neo 45 or something - which
one exactly? and for asus options also which ones exactly. - Post the model no.s from
there or links. - Thanks again.

Although there is only single P45 board on the website which is MSI P45 Neo
*techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=2364

Check Specifications:
*global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1482&maincat_no=1

Also u can check the models & prices on theitwares.com

 

[Zangetsu]

thanks...MetalheadGautham & keith_j_snyder2

So...config now is :
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Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand ???) Rs 700/-

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9600GSO satisfies my need dats OK...but still including the game settings i need a little future proof card....@least 4 1-2yrs.....& i think 4850 is the best bet....other
then 9800GT....
can i include e-vga 112-CK-NF77-A1 (Rs4525) mobo & wait 4 Ati4850 price drop...

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Which 600W PSU costs 700 bucks?

If you are going for a good graphic card like the ATI HD4850 then a Cosair VX450 or a CM Extreme 600W is more than enough.And they both cost around 3.2k-3.3k.

 

[gary4gar]

thanks...MetalheadGautham & keith_j_snyder2

So...config now is :
=====================
Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand ???) Rs 700/-

=========

9600GSO satisfies my need dats OK...but still including the game settings i need a little future proof card....@least 4 1-2yrs.....& i think 4850 is the best bet....other
then 9800GT....
can i include e-vga 112-CK-NF77-A1 (Rs4525) mobo & wait 4 Ati4850 price drop...

Get a Zotac 9600GT instead @6534/- shipping included. from Techspot.
*techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2086

 

[tech_lover]

Kindly advise on this new config to be used extensively for excel calculation and database queries.

Abit AN-78HD
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (to change with phenom after more price cuts)
Zion 1GB RAM (to change to Corsair/GSkill 2GB 1066 with AM2+ upgrade)
Any basic Zebronics cabinet - 1200
Coolermaster extreme power 500W - 2600
Existing IDE DVD writer
Any SATA 160GB HDD - 1800
Existing Viewsonic 19in monitor

My question is whether MSI motherboard will be better than Abit? I chose Abit as it has dual view where 2 monitors can be added. In MSI the ports are optional.

It would be of great help if anyone can tell me some delears in Kolkata where I can buy Abit motherboards other than Tirupati, where I have to pay the highest price.

EDIT: I have zeroed down on Zebronics Bijli after reading some of the posts. How does it fare against Coolermaster 330?

 

[utsav]

thanks...MetalheadGautham & keith_j_snyder2

So...config now is :
=====================
Intel C2D E7200 Rs 5600/-
Zebronics Bijli w/o 400wPSU Rs. 1200/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
600Watt PSU (which brand ???) Rs 700/-

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9600GSO satisfies my need dats OK...but still including the game settings i need a little future proof card....@least 4 1-2yrs.....& i think 4850 is the best bet....other
then 9800GT....
can i include e-vga 112-CK-NF77-A1 (Rs4525) mobo & wait 4 Ati4850 price drop...

man e7200 is a damn gud proccy. I managed to oc it to 3.2GHz on stock voltage on a gigabyte g31m-s2l mobo for just Rs 2.9k .if u want to save some money then better go for this mobo. And get a cooler master 600watt with the saved cash .

 

[Zangetsu]

man e7200 is a damn gud proccy. I managed to oc it to 3.2GHz on stock voltage on a gigabyte g31m-s2l mobo for just Rs 2.9k .if u want to save some money then better go for this mobo. And get a cooler master 600watt with the saved cash .

Oh...different views, diff answers....

OK...including my above config....cud anybody list down mobos blow 3.5k which r compatible with ATi 4850......bcoz dat is only part left in my config...

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Man if u ask me i suggest to go for E7200 instead of X3 8450. The E7200 runs cooler & consumes less power than X3 8450. Besides if u choose AMD then u will have to raise ur budget for 4850 & for that u need a better PSU, because HD4850 needs atleast 450W, so u gonna need a CM Xtreme 600W or Corsair VX450(min.). Or u can wait for RV730 & drop the idea of HD4850.

Metal head has indeed suggest u the 9600GSO & its the best card into that budget & suits ur requirement perfectly.
Think it of this way, E7200 can be overclocked pretty well but the same can't be said about the X3 8450, & even if u need to overclock in future, u still have enough room for overclocking & moderate overclocking won't hurt anyone.
Also E7200 isn't far behind of X3 8450 performance wise & also E7200 suits ur budget.



Although there is only single P45 board on the website which is MSI P45 Neo
*techshop.in/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=2364

Check Specifications:
*global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1482&maincat_no=1

Also u can check the models & prices on theitwares.com

Its not quintessential to get HD4850 if you go for AMD.
And E7200 is not better in performance if you don't OC.
And finally, 8450 is Rs. 4,900. Its much cheaper than E7200.

Get a Zotac 9600GT instead @6534/- shipping included. from Techspot.
*techshop.in/store/product_info.php?products_id=2086

Yeah. Thats good. Zotac 9600GT plus Zotac GF8200 Motherboard. Both together will cost 10K, so remaining 10K for CPU(5K), RAM(2K), cabby(1.5K). You are left with 1.5K. Add another 1000 and you can buy quad core Phenom X4 9550. Can you do it in Intel ?

 

[utsav]

man get that gigabyte mobo. am running it with 8800GT and its compatible with HD4850 too

 

[MetalheadGautham]

man e7200 is a damn gud proccy. I managed to oc it to 3.2GHz on stock voltage on a gigabyte g31m-s2l mobo for just Rs 2.9k .if u want to save some money then better go for this mobo. And get a cooler master 600watt with the saved cash .

He is not an overclocker. And yes, doing what you say, and adding to it the fact that there is no GPU power saving mode, this rig is going to DRINK electricity.

Oh...different views, diff answers....

OK...including my above config....cud anybody list down mobos blow 3.5k which r compatible with ATi 4850......bcoz dat is only part left in my config...

Zotac 9600GT fits perfectly in your budget along with Zotac GeForce 8200 motherboard. Why don't you get the pair ? 4850 is a power hog. You need to up your budget even more for getting a good PSU.

And yes, for HD4850, get a 780V motherboard. It costs 3.5K.

 

[Zangetsu]

this rig is going to DRINK electricity.

u mean 2 say the more powerfull a GPU the more electricity bill......i thought electricity bill depends on PSU Watts....

Zotac 9600GT fits perfectly in your budget along with Zotac GeForce 8200 motherboard. Why don't you get the pair ?

this pair in building a AMD config ryt....

And yes, for HD4850, get a 780V motherboard. It costs 3.5K.

780V mobo is 4 AMD......ryt...so u r saying AMD config is way cheaper then Intel
Config....

 

[MetalheadGautham]

u mean 2 say the more powerfull a GPU the more electricity bill......i thought electricity bill depends on PSU Watts....



this pair in building a AMD config ryt....


780V mobo is 4 AMD......ryt...so u r saying AMD config is way cheaper then Intel
Config....

1. I said the HD4850 is a power hungry GPU, so you need a good PSU for it. Good meaning reliable and higher watts, and you need 600W. 400 won't do.

2. Yes

3. There is no reason to be sarcastic here. The trouble with intel is that it doesn't have strong feature rich motherboards at a cheap cost. Hence AMD is more cheap compared to Intel.


And about the power saving part, if you go for AMD, the chipsets have a special feature called hybrid graphics, a part of which involves the ability to turn the GPU off and save power when the GPU is not needed and the low power onboard graphics takes over. This very useful IMO.

 

[tech_lover]

Kindly advise on this new config to be used extensively for excel calculation and database queries.

Abit AN-78HD
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (to change with phenom after more price cuts)
Zion 1GB RAM (to change to Corsair/GSkill 2GB 1066 with AM2+ upgrade)
Any basic Zebronics cabinet - 1200
Coolermaster extreme power 500W - 2600
Existing IDE DVD writer
Any SATA 160GB HDD - 1800
Existing Viewsonic 19in monitor

My question is whether MSI motherboard will be better than Abit? I chose Abit as it has dual view where 2 monitors can be added. In MSI the ports are optional.

It would be of great help if anyone can tell me some delears in Kolkata where I can buy Abit motherboards other than Tirupati, where I have to pay the highest price.

EDIT: I have zeroed down on Zebronics Bijli after reading some of the posts. How does it fare against Coolermaster 330?

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anyone. i want to buy this on an urgent basis as my work is held up.

Thanks

 

[raj_v1982]

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600 GTS 512 MB ?? and 9500 Gt 512mb ??
Is 9500 gt 512mb performs better ? and is it suitable for intel dg33fb motherboard ?
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Its not quintessential to get HD4850 if you go for AMD.
And E7200 is not better in performance if you don't OC.
And finally, 8450 is Rs. 4,900. Its much cheaper than E7200.

I think he mentioned the word "Future Proof" in one of his posts (here)

To me more future proof is E7200 instead of X3 8450.
This can be seen in the game requirements where in coming 1-2 years(as he mentioned in his earlier post) the requirements for the game will be more than what we have currently.
X3 8450 is 2.1GHz whereas E7200 is 2.5GHz which can be overclocked to 3.2GHz without V increase & X3 8450 can max. shoot out to 2.4-2.6GHz top & with v increment, this can shoot upto 4.4 GHz!

Zotac 9600GT fits perfectly in your budget along with Zotac GeForce 8200 motherboard. Why don't you get the pair ? 4850 is a power hog. You need to up your budget even more for getting a good PSU.

And yes, for HD4850, get a 780V motherboard. It costs 3.5K.

Indeed this one makes perfect sense!
The Zotac pair is cheaper than HD4850 & needs lesser power & the Zotac 9600GT is almost the price of 9600GSO!

1. I said the HD4850 is a power hungry GPU, so you need a good PSU for it. Good meaning reliable and higher watts, and you need 600W. 400 won't do.

3. There is no reason to be sarcastic here. The trouble with intel is that it doesn't have strong feature rich motherboards at a cheap cost. Hence AMD is more cheap compared to Intel.

And about the power saving part, if you go for AMD, the chipsets have a special feature called hybrid graphics, a part of which involves the ability to turn the GPU off and save power when the GPU is not needed and the low power onboard graphics takes over. This very useful IMO.

Absolutely right my friend!
Its a dilemma that INTEL based motherboards are not feature rich whereas AMD based motherboards are loaded with them. AMD even offers DX10.1 onboard!

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600 GTS 512 MB ?? and 9500 Gt 512mb ??
Is 9500 gt 512mb performs better ? and is it suitable for intel dg33fb motherboard ?
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY

I think u should wait for 9500GT, it does performs even better than 8600GTS!
The card will be available pretty soon as it is a cheaper card & will be available within ur budget.

 

[desiibond]

what is the price of XFX GeForce 8600 GTS 512 MB ?? and 9500 Gt 512mb ??
Is 9500 gt 512mb performs better ? and is it suitable for intel dg33fb motherboard ?
My budget is ONLY 4.7 and can extend to 5000 ONLY

8600 series has become old now. Get 9500GT or 9600GT and get MSI/evga model.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Kindly advise on this new config to be used extensively for excel calculation and database queries.

Abit AN-78HD
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (to change with phenom after more price cuts)
Zion 1GB RAM (to change to Corsair/GSkill 2GB 1066 with AM2+ upgrade)
Any basic Zebronics cabinet - 1200
Coolermaster extreme power 500W - 2600
Existing IDE DVD writer
Any SATA 160GB HDD - 1800
Existing Viewsonic 19in monitor

My question is whether MSI motherboard will be better than Abit? I chose Abit as it has dual view where 2 monitors can be added. In MSI the ports are optional.

It would be of great help if anyone can tell me some delears in Kolkata where I can buy Abit motherboards other than Tirupati, where I have to pay the highest price.

EDIT: I have zeroed down on Zebronics Bijli after reading some of the posts. How does it fare against Coolermaster 330?

Ur entire rig is fine but since u 've mentioned that u gonna upgrade to Phenom when the price cut is effective, then i suggest u to go with the cheapest one. I mean the price cut may be effective within 4-6 weeks in INDIA, so u should look for those cheaper BE editions or look for X2 4200+. This will help u in saving some cash for PHENOM upgrade.

Regarding RAM, no need to go for those 1066 models, 800MHZ one will do the best. If looking for performance, then buy OCZ CL4 Platinum or Gold RAM. They are cheaper & performs same as any other high performance.