Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[morpheusv6]

New System for Gaming

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K. Expected time to next purchase - 2 years

All prices are from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - GSkill DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 2400 (Is 1066 required or is 800
sufficient? Any noticeable changes in performance)
3. Motherboard - MSI P35 Platinum - Rs. 8550 (any suggestions)
4. Graphics card - Ge Cube ATI 4870 - Rs. 19200
5. Hard Disk - Seagate 250 GB (16 MB) x2 in RAID0 - Rs. 4600
6. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - Rs. 3900
7. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W - Rs. 3100
8. Mouse - Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1350
9. Monitor - Dell 2208WFP 22'' LCD - Rs. 16500
10. DVD drive - Liteon SATA DVD 20x - Rs. 1350

Suggest UPS for this configuration, it should provide atleast 15 minutes backup for the full system.

Any changes required in the config?

Thanks.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Re: New System for Gaming

I think that 800MHz would suffice. You can overclock it anytime you think you are not getting the performance you want . My 2GB DDR2 667MHz is running at 733MHz . Your choice of processor is good, stick to it. For a motherboard, get Asus P5Q Pro.You can also opt. for a 680i based board. MSI P45 Platinum is also a good board. If your wallet permits, get a XFX GTX260 OR if the price is too high, get a 9800GTX+ or an ATi HD4850. 4GB RAM will suffice. Get a good 750GB HDD. Other things are upto you.

Happy gaming

Higher ram clock ==> better for gaming.
Better get 2x HD4850 than GTX260 and better get HD4870 than 9800GTX+.
680i is old and obsolete. Its only good if you have TWO nVidia cards already.
Biostar iTower P45 is supposed to be the best overclocker around recently.
For CPU, get Core2Quad Q9450

 

[janitha]

Re: New System for Gaming

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K. Expected time to next purchase - 2 years

All prices are from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - GSkill DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 2400 (Is 1066 required or is 800
sufficient? Any noticeable changes in performance)
3. Motherboard - MSI P35 Platinum - Rs. 8550 (any suggestions)
4. Graphics card - Ge Cube ATI 4870 - Rs. 19200
5. Hard Disk - Seagate 250 GB (16 MB) x2 in RAID0 - Rs. 4600
6. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - Rs. 3900
7. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W - Rs. 3100
8. Mouse - Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1350
9. Monitor - Dell 2208WFP 22'' LCD - Rs. 16500
10. DVD drive - Liteon SATA DVD 20x - Rs. 1350

Suggest UPS for this configuration, it should provide atleast 15 minutes backup for the full system.

Any changes required in the config?

Thanks.

3. Why not MSI P45 Neo - F Intel® P45 Chipset 1333 FSB Rs.6500/-.

Later chipset @lower cost!

And why not a better PSU?

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Re: New System for Gaming

Hi,

I am buying a new system for gaming.
My budget is 70K. Expected time to next purchase - 2 years

All prices are from theitwares.com.

1. Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz - Rs. 8050
2. RAM - GSkill DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB Kit - Rs. 2400 (Is 1066 required or is 800
sufficient? Any noticeable changes in performance)
3. Motherboard - MSI P35 Platinum - Rs. 8550 (any suggestions)
4. Graphics card - Ge Cube ATI 4870 - Rs. 19200
5. Hard Disk - Seagate 250 GB (16 MB) x2 in RAID0 - Rs. 4600
6. Cabinet - Cooler Master CM690 - Rs. 3900
7. SMPS - Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W - Rs. 3100
8. Mouse - Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1350
9. Monitor - Dell 2208WFP 22'' LCD - Rs. 16500
10. DVD drive - Liteon SATA DVD 20x - Rs. 1350

Suggest UPS for this configuration, it should provide atleast 15 minutes backup for the full system.

Any changes required in the config?

Thanks.

RAM- get the 2x2GB 800MHZ set.
Motherboard - As Janitha already mentioned P45 or get BIOSTAR T-POWER I45.
HDD - WD 640GB - 3900/-
Graphics card - Wit or recheck the price, the HD4870 selling for 14K or look for Palit HD4850 for 9700/-
Rest of the items are good enough.

 

[acewin]

MSI P45-Neo in 6.5K or Asus P5Q in 8K or Asus P5Q Pro all being lates P45 chipset based mobos. You decide which one. reset as keith suggests.

Just you need to do a little work up for RAM if using 32 bit OS, as they recognize 3GB only and to get 4GB properly you need to change a little settings
For such config I would say Microtech 1KVA UPS equivalent to 650VA APC in price, APC ones cost alot. Microtech is a reputed UPS same as APC,

 

[morpheusv6]

Re: New System for Gaming

9450 has lower clock speed. Anyway games are not optimized for quad core.

I will get the higher clock RAM later when the prices reduce.

2x250 is for RAID0. Better performance as compared to a single 640 GB drive.

changed:
motherboard: P45 based(ASUS P5Q Pro or P5Q E or MSI Platinum)????? Want the option of Crossfire, so that upgrade will be easier in another few months. See post ending.
RAM (Gskill 800 MHz DDR2, 2x 2x1 GB RAM kits = 4 GB RAM)

Will APC 650 VA provide 15 min backup for this load? I already have 650 VA, so need not buy that UPS.

Better PSU? Which one? I thought this was the best in 3-4K price range. 600W should be more than enough.

I was checking tomshardware. They say that there is not much performance improvement over P35 but the power consumption has increased.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Just you need to do a little work up for RAM if using 32 bit OS, as they recognize 3GB only and to get 4GB properly you need to change a little settings

That issue was fixed ages ago on linux, BSD and solaris. Mac never had that issue. Vista SP1 I think fixes it. So why is this an issue today ?

 

[shivkumar]

I am planning to buy a new PC.
Purpose: - basic office work, browsing, light gaming, movies and songs, computational work.
I am not planning any multimedia or photo editing, neither any high end gaming

I plan to have some basic Intel C2D processor & suitable mobo with onboard audio and video support
I don't have any plan of over clockinging.

I am more struck about what combination of processor and motherboard to buy. also I don't have any idea about cabinet and smps .
other things most likely are fixed
250 GB SATA II HDD (Seagate Barracuda) 7200 rpm - 2500/-
1 GB DDR2 RAM 667 MHz x 2 (Transcend) - 1800/-
Lite-on DVD RW - 1200/-
UPS 500W - 2200/-
Keyboard + Mouse - 800/-
Monitor 19'' Viewsonic - 9000/-

This amounts to 16k. I plan to spend upto 25k for full system so remaining 9k for proc+mobo and cabinet+smps.

Please suggest whether, I am planning correct system. What proc+mobo and cabinet+smps to buy. Any other change in the config is also welcome.

PS: I will selling my pc in next 2-3 day, so i need to buy by next week. I am in Cochin if someone can suggest some proper shops then it would be very helpful.

 

[Psychosocial]

Get Intel Core2Duo E7200 for 5k + a 630i based mobo (eVGA112-CK-NF77-A1 and Abit I-N73HD ) Which are both good mobos and the chipset is quite good too. This rounds off to 7.5k. You can get the Zebronics Bijli cabinet for 1.2k which comes with a pre-installed 400W PSU. So all your queries are solved and you get a good a config too.

OR

I will suggest you an AMD config.

AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+ -->> 4.4k
MSI K9A2GM-FIH mobo -->> 4.5k
Zebronics Bijli cabby with PSU(400W) -->> 1k

I know that both the configs exceed your budget by 1k but the price is justified. Try and get this if you can.

 

[manishjha18]

hi i have e 4600 processor-now i want to update to e 7200-i have palit n73pv mobo-but its native bios doesn't support e 7200. ihave to flash it--but somehow i am not able to do it==just cant boot from pen drive with flashing tools-
now i am getting deal to go for e 7200 and xfx 630i mobo-for 1500 approx--is it worth
any suggestion --i am going to finalize it tomorrow itself

 

[abhi_10_20]

Friend's gonna buy a Gaming PC. Budget = 45k. From matter posted above..i could draw out half of the list. Left out are KB, mouse, Monitor. Speakers.. he's gonnna use his old one. Please suggest to complete the list..

proc - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
ram - DDR2 800 MHz 1x2 GB
hdd - Western Digital Caviar 640GB
mb - MSI P45 Neo
gpu - Palit HD4850
cab - Cooler Master CM690
smps- Cooler Master Extreme Power 600W

guess this itself is gonna land up to around 38 to 40k.. suggest where the cost can be cut, so as to fit in the left out (19 inch mionitor would suffice). thanks

 

[Psychosocial]

Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Motherboard - (I highly suggest u save money here by buying the Abit IP35e but since u seem to want to go for P45 then i will suggest it.) ASUS P5Q
RAM - 2x2Gb DDR2 800
HDD - WD Caviar 640GB
GPU - Palit HD4850
Cabby - CM690 is a good choice.
PSU - CM 600W is also a good choice.
Monitor - Dell E198WFP 19" LCD
Kbd+Mouse - (combo) -> Logitech G1 Gaming Combo
OR
(individual) -> Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 kbd and Microsoft Comfort 3000


Makes a good gaming PC .

The cost is around 48k if you go for the combo kbd+mouse set and 50k if you go for the individual set.

hi i have e 4600 processor-now i want to update to e 7200-i have palit n73pv mobo-but its native bios doesn't support e 7200. ihave to flash it--but somehow i am not able to do it==just cant boot from pen drive with flashing tools-
now i am getting deal to go for e 7200 and xfx 630i mobo-for 1500 approx--is it worth
any suggestion --i am going to finalize it tomorrow itself

IT's WORTH EVERY PENNY. THE 630i IS A VERY GOOD BUDGET BOARD AND E7200 IS ONE OF THE BEST PROCCESSOR OUT THERE (considering price/perofrmance ratio). If you can, get a good graphics card like a Palit 9600GSO or even a Zotac 9600GT. Nice deal by the way.

 

[manishjha18]

palit n73 pv is also nvidia 630i based mobo-GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i

 

[shivkumar]

Get Intel Core2Duo E7200 for 5k + a 630i based mobo (eVGA112-CK-NF77-A1 and Abit I-N73HD ) Which are both good mobos and the chipset is quite good too. This rounds off to 7.5k. You can get the Zebronics Bijli cabinet for 1.2k which comes with a pre-installed 400W PSU. So all your queries are solved and you get a good a config too.

OR

I will suggest you an AMD config.

AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+ -->> 4.4k
MSI K9A2GM-FIH mobo -->> 4.5k
Zebronics Bijli cabby with PSU(400W) -->> 1k

I know that both the configs exceed your budget by 1k but the price is justified. Try and get this if you can.

Thanks a lot for the suggestion, but Asus, Intel or MSI mobo will be more easy to get over here in cochin. Can you suggest any of the above mobo... usually the problem here is to get the desired mobo other things are easy to get.

@KPower Mania: I would prefer to have Intel config as it from various sources I have understood that C2D outperforms Athlon 64X2.

 

[desiibond]

^^ Place an order at itwares *theitwares.com

 

[Zangetsu]

can i build a config within 20k budget...

mobo,Gcard: (ATI 4850),Processor,2GB Ram,cabinet,PSU dats it...


GCard i need either above one or 9600GT (@ least 2 play @1024*768 settings all high)

pls suggest above config within specified budget

 

[rahul777]

I have to purchase a Desktop (including UPS) within a budget of Rs.25000/- I intend to use it for general office work and multimedia. I tend to read a lot of e books net posts etc., therefore, TFT monitor is a must. I have initialy thought regarding the following configuration but with some doubts still in mind :
AMD X2 4850e (but unsure about availability and correct price)
Gigabyte 780G (again there is some doubt reg. heating issue and confusion regarding exact model no. and revision no.(?)
which monitor would cause the least eye strain for continuous viewing?

 

[Psychosocial]

can i build a config within 20k budget...

mobo,Gcard: (ATI 4850),Processor,2GB Ram,cabinet,PSU dats it...


GCard i need either above one or 9600GT (@ least 2 play @1024*768 settings all high)

pls suggest above config within specified budget

You need to increase your budget buddy .

You can get a E7200 + XFX 630i + 2GB DDR2 667MHz + HD4850 + Zebronics Bijli for 22k approx.

 

[shivkumar]

^ KPower Mania:

Thanks for your earlier reply for proci + mobo,
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4089
and

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4092


but it would be easy for me to get Asus, MSI or Intel mobo here in cochin, can you suggest one

 

[MetalheadGautham]

can i build a config within 20k budget...

mobo,Gcard: (ATI 4850),Processor,2GB Ram,cabinet,PSU dats it...


GCard i need either above one or 9600GT (@ least 2 play @1024*768 settings all high)

pls suggest above config within specified budget

Is it going to be an OC rig ? If not, try the following:

Zebronics Bijli w/400wPSU Rs. 1500/-
2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz Value RAM Dual Channel Rs. 1800/-
AMD Phenom X3 8450 Rs. 5000/-
Zotac GF8200 Motherboard 3.4K
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3 Rs. 6.5K

Total Rs. 18,200/-
Tax @ 4% Rs. 728/-

Grand Total Rs. 18,928/-

Keep the remaining money as buffer if the system turns out to be more expensive. If possible, add 1K for 780G mobo and 4K for HD4850. If you are not getting HD4850 don't get 780G mobo, since you need matching brands for the new power saving mode in hybrid graphics.

You need to increase your budget buddy .

You can get a E7200 + XFX 630i + 2GB DDR2 667MHz + HD4850 + Zebronics Bijli for 22k approx.

630i = NOT recommended if you don't want onboard. G31 or P31 from gigabyte for 3K is a much better choice. It can OC quite well.

^ KPower Mania:

Thanks for your earlier reply for proci + mobo,
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4089
and

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913920&postcount=4092


but it would be easy for me to get Asus, MSI or Intel mobo here in cochin, can you suggest one

MSI also has P35 Neo for 5.5K and P45 Neo (recommended) for 6.5K