Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[shahhardik27]

hi guys..i m planning to buy a new laptop. my range is 30k-37.5k.....my aim is playing sports games like fifa07-08,cricket 07-08,nfs mw-carbon...etc...n i also going to use little bit related to education....so plz suggest me any new laptop.......hoping 4 ur reply....

 

[sagardani]

@ nish_higher and gx_saurav

Hi HD 3650 is no doubt great card at its price. But I've came across another budget product from Ati- HD 3450 and HD 3470. I'll make a small comparison in 3650 and 3470.

Product- HD 3470 vs Hd 3650

Core- RV620 vs RV635

No. of transistors- 181 million vs 378 million

Stram Processing Units- 40 vs 120

Memory interface- 64-bit DDR2/GDDR3 vs 128-bit DDR2/GDDR3/GDDR4

Because of this, using 3650 instead of 3470 will make difference in quality of high definition video ?

As I said, Im not much into gaming, thus don't want to spend extra money on unnecessary features of gaming. Just want to see HD movies, thats it ! I think other features of them are almost same. And pricewise (must be around 3-4k) I'll prefer 3470 over 3650. Its not that I don't have budget for 3650, but I don't want to spend extra for features which I may not need because this is my temporary card.

If 3470 is giving same HD video quality as that of 3650 I will certainly go for it..!

Just help me deciding between these two..

 

[spikygv]

most certainly u can get a 3470 .its good enough for hd. 3650 offers no advantage for viewing HD

 

[nish_higher]

yes video quality would be the same.
go for 3470

 

[gxsaurav]

@ nish_higher and gx_saurav

Hi HD 3650 is no doubt great card at its price. But I've came across another budget product from Ati- HD 3450 and HD 3470. I'll make a small comparison in 3650 and 3470.

Product- HD 3470 vs Hd 3650

Core- RV620 vs RV635

No. of transistors- 181 million vs 378 million

Stram Processing Units- 40 vs 120

Memory interface- 64-bit DDR2/GDDR3 vs 128-bit DDR2/GDDR3/GDDR4

Because of this, using 3650 instead of 3470 will make difference in quality of high definition video ?

No difference in quality. If you are buying a dual core CPU either C2D E4500 or Athlon64 4400+ X2 then rest assured u will get best HD experience.

As I said, Im not much into gaming, thus don't want to spend extra money on unnecessary features of gaming. Just want to see HD movies, thats it ! I think other features of them are almost same. And pricewise (must be around 3-4k) I'll prefer 3470 over 3650. Its not that I don't have budget for 3650, but I don't want to spend extra for features which I may not need because this is my temporary card.

Get Radeon HD 3450, enough for you with a good Dual core CPU.

 

[infra_red_dude]

I'd suggest you also give a look at 8500Gt. I just got one and its perfect for HD. I got BIG 8500GT 256mb 128bit GDDR2 (+50mhz core overclocked over reference 450mhz) for rs. 2,750. The 512mb can be had for about 3.6k. I think nothing beats the cost! You can get XFX brand for about 200 bucks more which is hardware sli capable. The BIG one is only software sli ready.

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@sagardani
whats ur system config?
if u are about to buy one, then get ny gud onboard gfx mobo like 7050, 7150 or X1250 which has full HD support. it ll dothe job just fine.

ive personally tries 1080p on my X1250 IGP on an X2 4200+ and it plays flawlessly.

 

[sabret00the]

Need help from choto and rest of you guys. I need you to suggest two completely different configs:

1) For my cousin as I told you earlier. He has finally gave up the idea of trying source matching rams for his system instead wants to do a upgrade. Problem is his father has a budget problem so they want a proc + mobo + atleast 1GB ram within 6-7K but want it to do almost everything almost...they are really banking on me and I dont wanna let down the kid...

2) This is for my friend for whom budget is not that big a concern...he sent me a sms asking me for the following advice. AMD Phenom v/s Intel Core2Quad...which one I would suggest..infact which model? A suitable mobo to go with the proc. Wants a good budget sound card to which he may connect his amp.

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@sabret00the
1) X2 4000+ : 2.4k
Asus M2A VM: 3.2k
Asus M2N VM DVI: 3.3k
or MSI K9A GM3: 2.8k
1G DDR2 667: transcent: 0.9k
2G DDR2 667: transcent: 1.7k

M2A VM is a gud option nd has gud oc features too. M2N VM has slighting better IGP, but lacks oc features. Both have DVI.
and also remember that there are no "HDMI" on their model no. as there are one out with HDMI and it costs atleast 800 bucks more.

 

[gxsaurav]

I'd suggest you also give a look at 8500Gt. I just got one and its perfect for HD. I got BIG 8500GT 256mb 128bit GDDR2 (+50mhz core overclocked over reference 450mhz) for rs. 2,750. The 512mb can be had for about 3.6k. I think nothing beats the cost! You can get XFX brand for about 200 bucks more which is hardware sli capable. The BIG one is only software sli ready.

No need, a Radeon HD 3470/3450 still gives more performance then a 8500GT in games (remember he is a casual gamer) & has more features then 8500GT at same price point.

Radeon HD 3xxx series is a better choice then GeForce 8 & 9 series cards as far as anything non-gaming is concerned. In Mid range...Radeons give better VFM...

 

[spikygv]

radeon avivo hd for hd playback is superior to nvidia pure vedio hd in vc-1 decoding .. . if u're not into games , hd 3450 is the way to go..better than 8500GT for HD playback only.

 

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ But he said the radeon's gonna cost 5k, while the 8500gt costs only 2.75k!! Thats why I suggested that.

 

[gxsaurav]

^^^ But he said the radeon's gonna cost 5k, while the 8500gt costs only 2.75k!! Thats why I suggested that.

5K for Radeon 3650, Radeon 3450 or 3470 are cheap.

But hey, I do agree...if this is your temporary graphics card then get ATI based on board graphics.

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@gx_saurav
have u done ny benchmarks on the card?
plz post some scores

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Its true ATi cards are better than nVidia when it comes to HD contents.
3470 is a better option and besides it is a PCI-E 2.0 and X-fire capable too and DX 10.1 & SM 4.1 and its on 55nm fab so it is also good in overclocking ( if u want)!
U might also get one with HDMI port on it because now days it is common and this card is capable of playing HD contents at 1080p!

So even if u compare it with 8500GT, this would be a better choice!

 

[sabret00the]

@sabret00the
1) X2 4000+ : 2.4k
Asus M2A VM: 3.2k
Asus M2N VM DVI: 3.3k
or MSI K9A GM3: 2.8k
1G DDR2 667: transcent: 0.9k
2G DDR2 667: transcent: 1.7k

M2A VM is a gud option nd has gud oc features too. M2N VM has slighting better IGP, but lacks oc features. Both have DVI.
and also remember that there are no "HDMI" on their model no. as there are one out with HDMI and it costs atleast 800 bucks more.

Thank you so much buddy for that config...seems like the best bet...however out of the 3 motherboards which one will you suggest if the person concerned is never going to OC and needs better integrated graphics?

Further, can you kindly answer the 2nd part of my query please if possible?

 

[dOm1naTOr]

@sabret00the
If ne never gonna oc, then Asus M2N VM DVI@3.3k makes more sense. It has nvidia 7050 onboard gfx, and has DVI as well as D sub out. It also supports AM2+ proccys.

2)currently C2Q offers better performance than phenom. But pgenom is lot cheaper. Phenom 9500 is for 8.5k
and Q6600 is for 10k. Q6600 offers very gud performance and 9500 is no match for it.
And bout sound card, get Creative Audigy2 value for 1.9k. Remember, dun get Audigy vlue. It shud be audigy 2 value. If u have 4k+to spend consider Audigy 4 series, or the XFI Extreme music or gamer for around 6~7k.

 

[CadCrazy]

Guys my friend wanna buy PC for 3D Design & Casual Gaming. I'am out of touch from hardware for quite some time.

Budget: Around 40000/-
He got following quote from Comp Empire, Nehru place

Procy: C2D E6750 -------------------------------- 7650/-
Mobo: XFX 650i ------------------------------- 5750/-
Ram: 2 GB Transcend DDR2 667 MHZ ---------- 1800/-
HDD : Seagate 320 GB(16 MB Buffer) ---------- 3950/-
DVD Writer: Liteon Sata 20 X ---------------- 1340/-
GFX: XFX 8400 GS 256 MB --------------------- 2750/-
Monitor: ViewSonic 19" VG 1930 WM ----------- 9850/-
Cabby: Zebronics Antibiotic -------------------- 2000/-
KB+Mouse : Logitech -------------------------- 630/-
Speakers: Creative SBS 370 -------------------- 1090/-
UPS: 600VA ------------------------------------- 1150/-

Total --------------------------------------------- 37960/-

I know this is not the latest one. Please post your valuable comments

 

[sagardani]

most certainly u can get a 3470 .its good enough for hd. 3650 offers no advantage for viewing HD

yes video quality would be the same.
go for 3470

I thank all of you .

No difference in quality. If you are buying a dual core CPU either C2D E4500 or Athlon64 4400+ X2 then rest assured u will get best HD experience.



Get Radeon HD 3450, enough for you with a good Dual core CPU.

Dude Im going for Q6600...

I'd suggest you also give a look at 8500Gt. I just got one and its perfect for HD. I got BIG 8500GT 256mb 128bit GDDR2 (+50mhz core overclocked over reference 450mhz) for rs. 2,750. The 512mb can be had for about 3.6k. I think nothing beats the cost! You can get XFX brand for about 200 bucks more which is hardware sli capable. The BIG one is only software sli ready.

Dude later (say after 1-1.5 yrs) Im going to buy high-end gfx probably from nVidia fully for sfx purpose. Right now I just want my TFT monitor to work for HD movies only.

@sagardani
whats ur system config?
if u are about to buy one, then get ny gud onboard gfx mobo like 7050, 7150 or X1250 which has full HD support. it ll dothe job just fine.

ive personally tries 1080p on my X1250 IGP on an X2 4200+ and it plays flawlessly.

Well right now I've P4, 845 chipset, 512mb ddr @333mhz and blah blah... Im upgading my pc. Im thinking of MSI P7N SLI Platinum, suits my budget (around 10k) and needs. Has SLI, dual channel, PCE-e x16 2.0, etc.

radeon avivo hd for hd playback is superior to nvidia pure vedio hd in vc-1 decoding .. . if u're not into games , hd 3450 is the way to go..better than 8500GT for HD playback only.

5K for Radeon 3650, Radeon 3450 or 3470 are cheap.

But hey, I do agree...if this is your temporary graphics card then get ATI based on board graphics.

Its true ATi cards are better than nVidia when it comes to HD contents.
3470 is a better option and besides it is a PCI-E 2.0 and X-fire capable too and DX 10.1 & SM 4.1 and its on 55nm fab so it is also good in overclocking ( if u want)!
U might also get one with HDMI port on it because now days it is common and this card is capable of playing HD contents at 1080p!

So even if u compare it with 8500GT, this would be a better choice!

YEa and 3470 is better choice over 3450... And its my temporary card so 3470 gives pretty ok cost + nice features = great vfm.

Thanks folks for your help...

 

[juggler]

^^^ change u mobo to IP35 E which should be in the same price range.