Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[topgear]

what's your budget ?

 

[NITIN BHUWANIA]

Hmm....see as of now i m changing the motherboard temporarily cause i am getting cpu overheating issues with it.and the core 2 duo processor is outdated also.therefore i will be changing my complete rig in four to five months of time from now.
So according to me range of 3-3.5k should be the best...
Is 3gb ddr2 ram enough to carry out the load of 1.5tb hard disc,hd 5770 graphics card and windows 7???
If yes i can consider buying two ram slots motherboard also.

 

[topgear]

if you are getting cpu overheating issue then I think you should buy a CPU cooler instead. Get CM TX3 @ 1.4k - that should keep your cpu cool.

 

[Ishu Gupta]

3GB RAM is good enough esp as you are buying a new PC in 4-5 mths.

 

[virajkin]

Hi my friend has selected following components to buy
Motherboard-ASUS M4A78LT-M LE
Processor-AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition 3.2GHz
RAM-2GB DDR3 1333 Mhz
Please suggest any changes/upgrade
Total budget-Rs.9000-10000

 

[Cilus]

If the purpose is solely gaming then Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition 3.2GHz is a good choice but if you want balance performance in gaming, multithreaded applications and editing, then get a Athlon II X4 635 @ 4.5K. It is a quad core and gaming performance is just below PII 555 but overall it is a better choice.
Regarding motherboard, get a MSI 785GM-P45 Motherboard @ 3.6K. It is based on newer 785G chipset and will offer better compatibility with the Athlon II/Phenom II processors.

 

[topgear]

^^ are you sure that mobo is only 3k - last time I cheeked it was around ~3.7k.

BTW, did you get your desired mobo ?

 

[Cilus]

^^ are you sure that mobo is only 3k - last time I cheeked it was around ~3.7k.

BTW, did you get your desired mobo ?

That was a typo, edited my post. Initially it was 3.K, the 6 was missing.
Regarding my mobo, 60% The ECS 885 one. I called Vedant about the MSI mobo and the price the said is 6.9K. The only problem is it is a mini ATX.
But I can also go for the Asrock 890GX Extreme @ 7.3K.

 

[virajkin]

Thanks Cilius for the reply
Can u tell me the site where i can buy MSI 785GM-P45 Motherboard ??
I checked SMC, ITwares, ITDepot
Please tell me any other site
Thanks

 

[topgear]

That was a typo, edited my post. Initially it was 3.K, the 6 was missing.
Regarding my mobo, 60% The ECS 885 one. I called Vedant about the MSI mobo and the price the said is 6.9K. The only problem is it is a mini ATX.
But I can also go for the Asrock 890GX Extreme @ 7.3K.

I think you are talking about ECS 890GX mobo.

Regarding MSI 890GXM GD65 - One gfx card is very close to the Ram slot. So you may have to remove one gfx card first to remove ram and despite of being a full sized ATX mobo GD70 has the same issue.

Layout wise I liked four 890GX/FX mobo most ( under 10k ) :

Asrock 890GX-EXTREME 3
ECS A890GXM-A
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H 8.4k
Biostar TA890FXE

^^ these mobos have every components/expansion slots very nicely placed.

 

[Cilus]

Thanks Cilius for the reply
Can u tell me the site where i can buy MSI 785GM-P45 Motherboard ??
I checked SMC, ITwares, ITDepot
Please tell me any other site
Thanks

Check lynx-india and TechShop.in. ALthough the price is little higher in online stores. If possible check in your local hardware market.

 

[papashango_cs]

hello to everyone
im new here..this is my 1st post.
need some help regarding my config
i need a good gaming pc within 37k . cant extend beyond this
this is the spec i have made with the aprox market price.
please correct me if im wrong somewhere

AMD x4 955 BE - 7000
Gigabyt - GA-MA74GMT , AM3 SOCKET - 3000
Cooler master elite 310 - 1500
zotack gts 450 1 gb - 7500
seagate 5400rpm 500gb - 2000
samsung b2030 (20 inch monitr ) - 6500
corsair 2 X 2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5500
basic dvd combo drive - 1000
C.M extreme power plus 500w - 3000
- 37000
I am worried about the psu , is a 500w psu enough for this config ?
do i need to install extra cooling fans ?
please suggest if i should change any thing , adding somewhere.. while cutting down somwhere else..
I am a hardcore gamer.
i worry more about the graphics
- thanks
regards

 

[Ishu Gupta]

Welcome to TDF

Sorry to say this, but that is a crap config. Seems like it was suggested by dealers.

AMD x4 635 @ 4.5k
Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H @ 4.5k
CM Elite 310 - 1.5k
MSI HD 6850 @ 11k
Seagate 7200.12 500GB @ 1.7k
Benq G2200HD @ 7.3k
Corsair 2x2GB 1333MHz DDR3 @ 2.5k <---5.5k is
DVD @ 1k
Corsair VX450W @ 3.5k
TOTAL 37.5k

If 37.5k isn't possible, get "Zeberonics Bijli without PSU" for 1.1k instead of CM Elite 310

 

[anantkhilnani]

his dealer is suggesting amd

 

[Ishu Gupta]

I was just being nice.

Off topic : Were these posts moved?

 

[topgear]

Welcome to TDF

Sorry to say this, but that is a crap config. Seems like it was suggested by dealers.

AMD x4 635 @ 4.5k
Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H @ 4.5k
CM Elite 310 - 1.5k
MSI HD 6850 @ 11k
Seagate 7200.12 500GB @ 1.7k
Benq G2200HD @ 7.3k
Corsair 2x2GB 1333MHz DDR3 @ 2.5k <---5.5k is
DVD @ 1k
Corsair VX450W @ 3.5k
TOTAL 37.5k

If 37.5k isn't possible, get "Zeberonics Bijli without PSU" for 1.1k instead of CM Elite 310

A little modified suggestion by me :

AMD x4 635 @ 4.5k
Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H @ 4.5k
CM Elite 310 1.5k
MSI HD 6850 @ 11k
Seagate 7200.12 500GB @ 1.7k
Benq G2200HD @ 7.3k
Corsair 2x2GB 1333MHz DDR3 @ 2.2k
LG DVD RW @ 0.9Kk
Corsair CX400/430 @ 2.6k
TVS Champ KB Rs. 210
Optical Mouse Rs. 110
CM LED Fan Rs. 480

TOTAL 37k

 

[papashango_cs]

A little modified suggestion by me :

AMD x4 635 @ 4.5k
Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H @ 4.5k
CM Elite 310 1.5k
MSI HD 6850 @ 11k
Seagate 7200.12 500GB @ 1.7k
Benq G2200HD @ 7.3k
Corsair 2x2GB 1333MHz DDR3 @ 2.2k
LG DVD RW @ 0.9Kk
Corsair CX400/430 @ 2.6k
TVS Champ KB Rs. 210
Optical Mouse Rs. 110
CM LED Fan Rs. 480

TOTAL 37k

thankyou so much for replying..
is the processor phenom x4 955 not good enough ? it has a good 8 mb cache mem..
whereas the athlon x4 635 has just 2 mb cache mem.
and the 955 is more for gaming..
and 2 x 2 gb = 4gb for 2.5 k ??
i havnt been to a dealer yet. this config was suggested by one of my frnds .
which psu would a 955 require ?
the config i had given , is it unstable ? i mean not balanced ..?
i dont no why, but i want to stick to the processor... please correct me if m wrong

 

[Ishu Gupta]

is the processor phenom x4 955 not good enough ? it has a good 8 mb cache mem..
whereas the athlon x4 635 has just 2 mb cache mem.
and the 955 is more for gaming..

Yes 955 is better than X4 635, but as you said you are a hardore gamer and for gaming the most important thing is graphic card. The graphic card you suggested can play most games on high and rest on medium. The graphic card we suggested can play any game on high.

Also that processor is a 125W TDP CPU and you will need a higher end motherboard (atleast 6.5k) or both your processor and motherboard will burn. Not always but why take a risk.

which psu would a 955 require ?

PSU supplies power to the whole PC, so 955 with the components suggested above will be fine with Corsair CX400W @ 2.7k or a better Corsair VX450W @ 3.5k. Avoid CX430W.

the config i had given , is it unstable ? i mean not balanced ..?

What I said about the CPU and Graphic card.
And the CM Extreme power pro power supplies are very bad. Very high chance of your PC going bang.

The Hard disk you selected is a 5400rpm drive. We suggested a faster hard drive.

and 2 x 2 gb = 4gb for 2.5 k ??

Yes buddy. Corsair 2GB comes for 1.1k + Taxes.

 

[papashango_cs]

okk okk.. i know im a BIG NOOB in all this... but still have milllions of questions in mind..
if i go for x4 635, n get msi hd6850 , my games would run better as compared to my old config ???
and will the difrnce in the cache memory make a huge diffrence in gaming performence ?

please reply

 

[Ishu Gupta]

Ask as many questions as you want.

Yes 635/HD6850 will run games better.
No wont' make a huge difference.