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tkin

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Krow said:
Thanks for replies guys, I also need something for data transfer as my friend's HDD (1TB WD Green) is my primary backup. So, dumping large quantities of files at his place is always a PITA with his Transcend 4GB and my 2GB. Anyway, the thing is that the GT is a bit too much for 2.3k. I'll look for some deals online. About 1.9-2k seems reasonable.

How are the deals for the Corsair drives? 8GB=900 and 16GB=1750. I want to buy it because it is rubber and hence very rough and tough.
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Prices are OK, build quality is excellent, go get it. Rubber body means its fully waterproof and shockproof, in one CHIP magazine(Germany) torture test on pen drives the corsair drive survived through almost all tests easily.
 
Krow

Krow

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Lets see now. After digging up old threads at TE, I found that the same PD's were for these rates : 8GB=850; 16GB=1650 and GT16GB=2200. Current prices seem too bloated to me. :(
 
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mayur_digitized

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I am looking to buy a mid range gaming PC for about Rs. 40,000 which will do well for another 2 yrs at least. The main things I seek are:
1. The technology should not be outdated
2. All present games like CRYSIS should run at high resolution
3. My system should be able to extract the best performance from all components

My local PC wallah in Pune has suggested me following config:

AMD Phenom X4 550 + ASUS M4A 10,100
Transcend 4 GB DDR 2 RAM 4,000
320 GB Seagate HDD 3,250
LG 18.5'' LCD monitor 5ms 6,750
Gigabyte 9800 GT 1GB 7,250
400 W SMPS and Cabinet 2,050

The whole system is costing me around 36k. My PC wallah has also said that spending more won't make much sense as I won't get that much performance gain. But somehow, I am not convinced. I am willing to extend my budget up to 45 k if I get SIGNIFICANT performance gain. Kindly advise me in this regard as I am not much aware about this market.

Thanks in advance
 
desiibond

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mayur_digitized said:
I am looking to buy a mid range gaming PC for about Rs. 40,000 which will do well for another 2 yrs at least. The main things I seek are:
1. The technology should not be outdated
2. All present games like CRYSIS should run at high resolution
3. My system should be able to extract the best performance from all components

My local PC wallah in Pune has suggested me following config:

AMD Phenom X4 550 + ASUS M4A 10,100
Transcend 4 GB DDR 2 RAM 4,000
320 GB Seagate HDD 3,250
LG 18.5'' LCD monitor 5ms 6,750
Gigabyte 9800 GT 1GB 7,250
400 W SMPS and Cabinet 2,050

The whole system is costing me around 36k. My PC wallah has also said that spending more won't make much sense as I won't get that much performance gain. But somehow, I am not convinced. I am willing to extend my budget up to 45 k if I get SIGNIFICANT performance gain. Kindly advise me in this regard as I am not much aware about this market.

Thanks in advance
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there is no model by name Phenom II X4 550. It should be Phenom X4 9xxx or Phenom II X2 550.

anyways, go for Athlon II X4 630 as it is avialble for 5.5k and is a quad core processor.
Get 785G based motherboard and Transcend DDR3 ram. gigabyte 785G ddr3 based mobos should be available for 5.5k

instead of paying 6.8k for lg 18.5", go for Samsung 2033 (20") for 7k or 2233SW (22" fullHD) for 9k

9800GT now costs 5.5k and for 7k, you can get Palit GTS250 which is lot more powerful

now, 500Gb HDD costs around 2.6k and for 4k, you get a 1Tb HDD.

looking at the spec, clearly that dealer is trying to fool you.
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Here is the config for 45k and this will give lot lot better performance:

Athlon II X4 620: 5.5k
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H: 5.5k or Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H: 4.2k
Transcend DDR3 1333MHz 2x2Gb : 4k-4.5k or DDR2 800MHz 2x2Gb: 2.5k-3k
WD Caviar Blue 500Gb : 2.5k or 1Tb : 4k-4.5k
Samsung 2033SW for 7k or Samsung 2233SW: 9.5k
CM Elite 330: 2k
Corsair VX450W: 4k or Tagan TG600-U37 600W"StoneRockSeries": 4.5k-5k
Wait for price of HD5770 to come down to 8k or get Palit GTX260 Sonic for 11k

rest is usual stuff that you know.
 
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tkin

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desiibond said:
there is no model by name Phenom II X4 550. It should be Phenom X4 9xxx or Phenom II X2 550.

anyways, go for Athlon II X4 630 as it is avialble for 5.5k and is a quad core processor.
Get 785G based motherboard and Transcend DDR3 ram. gigabyte 785G ddr3 based mobos should be available for 5.5k

instead of paying 6.8k for lg 18.5", go for Samsung 2033 (20") for 7k or 2233SW (22" fullHD) for 9k

9800GT now costs 5.5k and for 7k, you can get Palit GTS250 which is lot more powerful

now, 500Gb HDD costs around 2.6k and for 4k, you get a 1Tb HDD.

looking at the spec, clearly that dealer is trying to fool you.
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Here is the config for 45k and this will give lot lot better performance:

Athlon II X4 620: 5.5k
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H: 5.5k or Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H: 4.2k
Transcend DDR3 1333MHz 2x2Gb : 4k-4.5k or DDR2 800MHz 2x2Gb: 2.5k-3k
WD Caviar Blue 500Gb : 2.5k or 1Tb : 4k-4.5k
Samsung 2033SW for 7k or Samsung 2233SW: 9.5k
CM Elite 330: 2k
Corsair VX450W: 4k or Tagan TG600-U37 600W"StoneRockSeries": 4.5k-5k
Wait for price of HD5770 to come down to 8k or get Palit GTX260 Sonic for 11k

rest is usual stuff that you know.
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HD5770 to 8k, not in a long time, its already 12K.
 
Krow

Krow

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@ mayur_digitized Good you came here. We had another guy from Pune (Tech_Wiz) who started another thread called "Am I being Ripped off here?". You can search and refer that thread too for examples of overpricing.

Go for desii's config, its a good one. Go for the Gigabyte 785 mobo along with DDR3 RAM. Its a lot more future proof. You can game all games at 800x600 resolution easily using the onboard Graphics in that board, except probably GTA IV. I'd say wait out some time and get either nvidia's next series GPU or ATI's 5xxx series cards. Don't buy GPU now. Its best to wait for a couple of months.
 
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tanvir_87

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hey guys !!!

i m buying a new pc my config is :-

Palit GTX 260 894MB
Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q8400
Corsair DDR 3 TWIN3X2048-1333C9
(2 X 1GB DDR3 1333MhZ)
Seagate Sata 2 1 Terabyte (32 MB Buffer 7200.12
Sony 20x Normal IDE
CoolerMaster RP-600-PCAR Extreme Power 600W
Dell E1909W 19" Flat Panel Widescreen

now i need u guys to help me out with the motherboard and a cabinet....and also do let me know if my config is fine or should i make any changes in it.....my budget is max 45K....
 
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spikygv

Wise Old Owl
athlon x4 620 is as good as if not better than q8400.

get corsair vx450 instead of CM 600.

make sure its core 216 version of gtx260 that u're getting.

What are u buying ur pc for ? gaming ? resolution ?
 
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tanvir_87

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hey guys !!!

i m buying a new pc my config is :-

Palit GTX 260 894MB
Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q8400
Corsair DDR 3 TWIN3X2048-1333C9
(2 X 1GB DDR3 1333MhZ)
Seagate Sata 2 1 Terabyte (32 MB Buffer 7200.12
Sony 20x Normal IDE
CoolerMaster RP-600-PCAR Extreme Power 600W
Dell E1909W 19" Flat Panel Widescreen

now i need u guys to help me out with the motherboard and a cabinet....and also do let me know if my config is fine or should i make any changes in it.....my budget is max 45K....
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its bascially for gaming......and i wanna stick with intel rather than amd
 
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desiibond

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you cannot use DDR3 with core2quad as it doesn't have ddr3 memory controller. instead go for Core i5 and P55 based motherboard. processor costs 11k and mobo costs 7k.

but for a budget of 45k, my pick would be AMD rig. check my previous post where I gave config for 48k budget.
 
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tanvir_87

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which amd processor should i go for and what would be ur config for 45k.........given a choice i might get down to ddr2 with 800Mhz and an intel processor but what basically does a ddr3 ram do.... it should even cut me down on my motherboard price for using a ddr2 ram series.....
 
desiibond

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Athlon II X4 620: 5.5k
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H: 5.5k or Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H: 4.2k
Transcend DDR3 1333MHz 2x2Gb : 4k-4.5k or DDR2 800MHz 2x2Gb: 2.5k-3k
WD Caviar Blue 500Gb : 2.5k or 1Tb : 4k-4.5k
Samsung 2033SW for 7k or Samsung 2233SW: 9.5k
CM Elite 330: 2k
Corsair VX450W: 4k or Tagan TG600-U37 600W"StoneRockSeries": 4.5k-5k
Wait for price of HD5770 to come down to 8k or get Palit GTX260 Sonic for 11k

rest is usual stuff that you know.
 
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tanvir_87

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i don't know about this processor Athlon II X4 how is it.....what's the freq...and other stuff like fsb and all........i wanted to go for intel processors won't any of intel come in my range
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and one more thing doesn't GTX 260 needs a 500W power supply that's the reason i was going for 600W psu
 
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spikygv

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core i5 would. but it'll be a tight fit for ur budget. for gaming, u need a better gpu than a cpu. .i'd rather prefer u go4 amd + hd5850
 
desiibond

desiibond

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FSB was dumped couple of years ago by AMD (and from core i7 by Intel).

anyways, here is the product page and reviews

*www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/pr...ocessor-model-numbers-feature-comparison.aspx

see how it competes with Q8xxx in real world reviews:

*www.techwarelabs.com/athlon-ii-x4-620-630/5/
*www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3638&p=4
*www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3638&p=7
*www.legitreviews.com/article/1073/9/

and the beauty is that this is around 3k bucks cheaper than Q8400 and is compatible with the latest socket from AMD that is AM3.
 
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