Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[damngoodman999]

add me to struggling seagate HDD users list.

two weeks back my 3yr old 160gig HDD died and last week I got replacement. Today is the first day that I am using and guess what, this one crashed within an hour of usage.

STAY AWAY FROM SEAGATE EVEN IF THEY GIVE YOU FOR FREE.

i formatted over 200 times still my seagate works ?? CRASHING means wat kind of crash [ may be i confused with the crash]

 

[desiibond]

hmm. connect the HDD and windows on the other HDD won't boot. Earlier windows used to hang when I tried to copy content to the defective HDD.

 

[Krow]

Sudden doubt: X4 - 810 BE is AM3 processor whereas M3A78-EM supports AM2+ and AM2 processors... Does this mean AM3 is supported or not?

Advice A : Don't get the M3A78-EM as it is an older chipset. The 780G chipset AFAIK. Better get 785G chipset based moboas they give ATI HD4200 onboard GFX, which is really good even for moderate gaming.

Advice B: Biostar TA785GE 128M is a good board and is worth the bucks although I recommend the Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H, which is just 1k more and totally worth it for reliability.

Advice C: If you wish to get the ASUS board you mentioned, get it as it is a great board in itself with CF support and extremely VFM @ 4.5k for a full ATX board. My only concern is the outdated chipset, but IMO the board is sturdy and reliable. AM2 and AM2+ sockets can run AM3 proccys. They are backward compatible. But AM3 sockets cant run AM2+ proccys. Simple logic : AM2+ is 940 pin while AM3 is 939 pin. So you see the difference I hope. More info: AM3 CPU's have both DDR2 and DDR3 mem controller integrated in them while AM2+ have only DDR2.
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desiibond Even I don't recommend Seagate to many, but I still stand by my evergreen thought :

Pray before you buy your next HDD

 

[furious_gamer]

hmm. connect the HDD and windows on the other HDD won't boot. Earlier windows used to hang when I tried to copy content to the defective HDD.

AFAIK Seagate is known for its consistency. I bought my WD HDD few months back and now it starts to show bad sectors in it. I need to RMA it,but as it need much time, i halt it till i got a spare HDD. So better get a Seagate over WD.

 

[Psychosocial]

Hey guys, my friend needs a rig <25k for casual gaming and multimedia. He dosent need a monitor, speakers, kbd/mouse, HDD or DVD-RW drive.

I suggested him two, AMD/Intel but he isnt going to trust AMD no matter how many logical facts I tell him so I thought I will stick to Intel... I suggested him this config :-

Intel C2D E7500
MSI G41TME63 (Based on Intel G41)
2x2 Transcend 800MHz RAM
Palit 9800GT 512MB GDDR3
CoolerMaster EP 500W
CoolerMaster Elite 330 cabinet

Is this a nice config ? Please give me some more suggestions .

 

[desiibond]

That should be good for 25k. Since you are going for a dedicated GPU, why not pick P45 chipset based mobo. MSI G41TME63 looks good though. what is the price of this mobo?

 

[Krow]

@Psychosocial :

Have a look at the Gigabyte 460W PSU @ 2.5k. Its 80+ and is active PFC too. That config will be outdated by next year jan when Intel releases its new lineup. C2D is a waste of money now IMO. Otherwise, its a decent config and have a look at P45 as desii said.

 

[furious_gamer]

@Techalomaniac

Even C2Q will outdated in few months .So we cant take that into consideration, as his friend is not going to increase his budget it'll be the only choice he got.

@Psychosocial

Get the Gigabyte 460W as suggested by Techalomaniac.

 

[thelordrrulzzz]

hello digitians,
I need some help here in upgrading my friend's PC. By upgrading i mean only the cabinet and its contents.
Usage: The usual -> net surfing, multimedia purposes and occasional gaming.
He is on a tight budget of about 15-16k and here is da config i am looking at currently.

1] Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 processor - Rs 5850
2] Mobo: Asus P5N73-AM Supports Intel 45 nm multi-core - Rs 3500
3] Memory: Kingston or Transcend RAM chips 667/800MHz (either 1Gbx2 or 2Gbx1) - Rs 775x2 or Rs 1275
4] Cabinet: Antec NSK4400 Mini Tower Case Improved (wid da PSU but not sure about this) - Rs 2200
5] HDD: Western Digital 160Gb/250Gb hard disk - Rs 1850/Rs 2100
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 3Gb/s 250 GB Hard Drive - Rs 2100
6] Samsung Octo Edge Sata DVD writer - Rs 1500

Total Damage: Rs 17k approx

I am confused about the Hard disk part. I can't make up between WD and Seagate since both are having the same exact specs so can someone plz tell me which one to go for??

Secondly, my friend will be happy with an equally decent AMD config but since i don't know much about AMD i would really appreciate some help in shortlisting a decent AMD config.
Thanks.
Regards.
P.S.- All the prices listed are courtesy of primeabgb and theitwares websites.

 

[furious_gamer]

@thelordrrulzzz

Get Seagate HDD as WD RMA su(ks.. (I am having a WD HDD *sigh*)
Instead of buying a Cabby for 2.2k just go for Zebby cabinet @ 1.2k and put that money in HDD. So that you can get even a Seagate 500GB for around 2.5k...

Here is the Phenom rig :
Phenom X4 9650 - 6000 / X4 9550 - 5000
ASUS M3A78 -4000 780G Chipset. Best even for moderate gaming...
Kingston 2GB DDR2 - 1800
Zebronics Cabinet w/ SMPS - 1200
DVD RW - 1100
Seagate 500GB - 2500

Total - 15600

Am i missing something?

 

[thelordrrulzzz]

@rajkumar_pb
Thanks for replying early. I don't think my friend is in need of such a large capacity HDD but whatever the case might be i will surely go for Seagate. Even i was thinking of Zebronics cabinet (Bijli to be specific with the PSU) but i think that model has been stopped. Any idea about it??

Btw thanks for the AMD config as well. I will take it into consideration.

 

[furious_gamer]

@thelordrrulzzz

Get someother cabby in that range as the additional amount will be put up on another 2 Gig of RAM....!!!!!

BTW The AMD Config is way better than the Intel config by you. So just consider it as a good option.... A (X4 9550)Quad core for 5000-5500 dude... Think abt it.. Whether u go for a C2D for around 6k or a Quad Core for around 5.5k?

 

[Krow]

hello digitians,
I need some help here in upgrading my friend's PC. By upgrading i mean only the cabinet and its contents.
Usage: The usual -> net surfing, multimedia purposes and occasional gaming.
He is on a tight budget of about 15-16k and here is da config i am looking at currently.

1] Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 processor - Rs 5850
2] Mobo: Asus P5N73-AM Supports Intel 45 nm multi-core - Rs 3500
3] Memory: Kingston or Transcend RAM chips 667/800MHz (either 1Gbx2 or 2Gbx1) - Rs 775x2 or Rs 1275
4] Cabinet: Antec NSK4400 Mini Tower Case Improved (wid da PSU but not sure about this) - Rs 2200
5] HDD: Western Digital 160Gb/250Gb hard disk - Rs 1850/Rs 2100
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 3Gb/s 250 GB Hard Drive - Rs 2100
6] Samsung Octo Edge Sata DVD writer - Rs 1500

Total Damage: Rs 17k approx

I am confused about the Hard disk part. I can't make up between WD and Seagate since both are having the same exact specs so can someone plz tell me which one to go for??

Secondly, my friend will be happy with an equally decent AMD config but since i don't know much about AMD i would really appreciate some help in shortlisting a decent AMD config.
Thanks.
Regards.
P.S.- All the prices listed are courtesy of primeabgb and theitwares websites.

This config will be outdated within 2-3months. You wanna buy Intel? Then wait for some 3 months and they will release newer architecture.

@thelordrrulzzz

Get Seagate HDD as WD RMA su(ks.. (I am having a WD HDD *sigh*)
Instead of buying a Cabby for 2.2k just go for Zebby cabinet @ 1.2k and put that money in HDD. So that you can get even a Seagate 500GB for around 2.5k...

Here is the Phenom rig :
Phenom X4 9650 - 6000 / X4 9550 - 5000
ASUS M3A78 -4000 780G Chipset. Best even for moderate gaming...
Kingston 2GB DDR2 - 1800
Zebronics Cabinet w/ SMPS - 1200
DVD RW - 1100
Seagate 500GB - 2500

Total - 15600

Am i missing something?

Yes. This config is also outdated. Here's what I have to offer.

AMD Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k OR Phenom II X2 550BE @ 5.4k
Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.5k or Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H @ 5.5k
Gigabyte 460W SMPS @ 2.5k or Corsair CX400W @ 3.2k
Rest your config.

 

[prvprv]

hi guys,

what is the cheapest available gfx card with DDR3 technology?

 

[JojoTheDragon]

^Nvidia 8600gt

 

[furious_gamer]

This config will be outdated within 2-3months. You wanna buy Intel? Then wait for some 3 months and they will release newer architecture.


Yes. This config is also outdated. Here's what I have to offer.

AMD Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k OR Phenom II X2 550BE @ 5.4k
Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.5k or Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H @ 5.5k
Gigabyte 460W SMPS @ 2.5k or Corsair CX400W @ 3.2k
Rest your config.

Look at his budget. Its just 15k. But the config you quoted costs min of 12.5k, so he has to get the rest within 3.5k, which isn't possible. Isn't it?

Later on update to a Quad Core and a dedicated GPU,if you can.

Other option would be
E5200 - 3.5k
G31M-S2L - 2.5k
Zebronics Platinum 500W - 1.7k
Seagate 500GB - 2.5k / WD 640GB - 3.3k
DVD RW - 1.1k
Cabinet - 1k
2GB DDR2 - 1.8k


Total - 14.1k(if you choose 500GB) and 14.9k(if you choose 640GB) in total

 

[Krow]

^Man, the proccy you suggested is not good at all. The original Phenom series sucks. The Phenom II series rocks along with the Athlon II series. Btw, Athlon II X4 is a quad core! I still stand by:

AMD Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.5k
Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.2k (Much better gfx than the 780 chipset ASUS board, can play all latest games at low-med res)

Rest is upto him. Just suggested the good SMPSes as its advisable to have 'em. Now if you look at his original planned config, then you will notice that mine is expensive by only 500 bucks.

 

[furious_gamer]

@Techalomaniac

Well then, +1 for your config. I am so lazy to even sum it up..

 

[Krow]

^Please read up some reviews. You need to catch up a bit on the market. Then even you can post regularly here and help out the many who come here for help.

 

[SagarS]

WorkStation under Rs. 55000/-

WorkStation under Rs. 55000/-

I have decided on purchasing the following configuration at around Rs. 55000/- primarily for 3d Applications (WorkStation)

CPU - Intel i5 750
Motherboard - ASUS P7P55D / Gigabyte GAP55 UD3R / Gigabyte GAP55 M-UD2
GPU - PowerColour HD 4850 512 MB
RAM - Corsair Dual Channel DDR 3 1333 MHz 2 x 2GB
HDD - WD 1TB Cavier Green Series
Monitor - AOC 2436VW / Dell 2409W / Benq G2412
SMPS - Corsair VX450 450W
Cabinet - Cooler Master CW690
DVD Writer - Samsung DVD / CD RW Combo
Keyboard - Logitech Keyboard
Mouse - Logitech 1000 DPI Mouse


I have a few queries.

1. According to going over reviews on this site and others including Digit magazine, I estimate the above configuration to cost in the Range of Rs. 55,000/-. I am not aware of the first hand street Price in Mumbai. So, if the configuration goes well above it, kindly let me know.

2. I am going to use this PC primarily for Work. I would be using softwares like AutoCAD, Revit Architecture, Google Sketchup on almost daily basis. Additionally, infrequent use of Photoshop CS3 and CorelDraw. Apart from these, I will also heavily surf the web and training / flash based videos. An occasional movie viewing might also occur.

3. I will not use 2 GPUs. So, I dont need Crossfire or SLI. Accordingly, Gigabyte GAP55 M-UD2 seems a decent choice. Does it make any sense to go for ASUS P7P55D / Gigabyte GAP55 UD3R and spend another Rs. 3500/-. Or kindly recommend any other Motherboard.

4. I am planning to buy 24" Monitor in 12 - 13000/- range. I dont think Samsung has a affordable 24" LCD Monitor. Here people are recommending Dell or Benq Monitors. I havent heard anyone mentioning AOC Monitors. I am using AOC 19" Monitor and decently satisfied.Which one should I go for?

5. For GPUs, is PowerColour HD 4850 512 MB value for money at around Rs. 7500/-. Or should I go for NVDIA 9800GTX based cards.

6. Is Corsair VX450 450W sufficient for this configuration?

7. Kindly recommend 2.1 / 2.0 speakers for around 1500/- in addition to above configuration. I am not a audiophile and a decent pair of speakers will do.

8. Can someone recommend a reliable shop from Lamington Road to make the Purchase.


Thank You Very Much in Advance for any help or advice in this matter.