AMD Phenom II benchmarks out!! Goodbye Q94xx

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amitash

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Does it have an am2+ socket?
@compaddict crossfire or sli for that matter never gives 100% performance increase as games dont scale well...4850x2 is also just 2 4850s in crossfire but occupies only one slot.
 
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desiibond

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Bond, Desi Bond!
I think that i should skip my decision to jot in Phenom 9950 BE and instead wait couple of months so that Phenom II comes down to the price of Phenom 9950 BE..

Q- Will Phenom II fit on my 2 year old AMD 690 G chipset based mobo.. the model is Jetway JM2A-692-GDG.. it currently holds 4400+ X2..

*www.tomshardware.com/forum/257095-28-phenom-690g-works
 

hellknight

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Thanx for the info Bond.. i think that the mobo will not become a bottleneck when i'll upgrade to Phenom II..
 

comp@ddict

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Does it have an am2+ socket?
@compaddict crossfire or sli for that matter never gives 100% performance increase as games dont scale well...4850x2 is also just 2 4850s in crossfire but occupies only one slot.
But I saw HD4870x2 perform almost 106% of a HD4870 and much better than two HD4870s in CFx all the time. So the same applies for HD4850x2, it will perform tad better than 2xHD4850 in CFx.
 

amitash

Intel OCer
the same thing with 3870 cfx and 3870x2...It will perform maybe 5-10% faster but the 3k extra cost does'nt justify the perf gains....Another problem with x2 cards is that what if the game does'nt support crossfire? The x2 cards always have cfx enabled so you cannot play that game whereas you can simply turn off crossfire on using 2 cards or just remove a card...It happend to me on grid, no cfx support so i couldnt play it...I had to disable crossfire in CCC as well as turn everything to low for it to work.

As for performance increase all games do not show 100% increase...you can expect around 60-80% average increase..you will see 100%+ perf on games that are heavily multi-GPU aware and personally speaking i've had a bad experience with ATi's driver issues and cfx support....SLI performs much better so if Im going for a new dual card setup I will go to nvidia's 9800gt SLI at mid-range cfx.
 

comp@ddict

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the same thing with 3870 cfx and 3870x2...It will perform maybe 5-10% faster but the 3k extra cost does'nt justify the perf gains....Another problem with x2 cards is that what if the game does'nt support crossfire? The x2 cards always have cfx enabled so you cannot play that game whereas you can simply turn off crossfire on using 2 cards or just remove a card...It happend to me on grid, no cfx support so i couldnt play it...I had to disable crossfire in CCC as well as turn everything to low for it to work.

As for performance increase all games do not show 100% increase...you can expect around 60-80% average increase..you will see 100%+ perf on games that are heavily multi-GPU aware and personally speaking i've had a bad experience with ATi's driver issues and cfx support....SLI performs much better so if Im going for a new dual card setup I will go to nvidia's 9800gt SLI at mid-range cfx.

Dun talk about HD3870x2 and HD3850x2, the HD3850x2 beat the HD3870x2 completely, beating all theory. There was something wrong definitely in the HD3800x2 series, which resulted in it not being sooo powerful and good sellers.

But now the HD4850x2 and HD4870x2 support almost all current games, and I'm sure the new Catalyst 9.1 drivers will fix everything not yet fixed.
 

damngoodman999

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AMD and Intel are continuing their age-old processor war. After Intel recently slashed prices of quad-core and other CPUs, AMD has also reduced prices of their top quad-core models.

Though the price list hasn't been updated as of now, the reduction was observed at their e-tailers. The prices of the recently launched quad-core processors AMD Phenom II X4 940 and Phenom II X4 920 were seen reduced at Newegg.com.

The price of the Phenom II X4 940 CPU slipped from $275 (approx. Rs. 13,200) to $235 (approx. Rs. 11,200), and this 45nm fab process quad-core directly competes with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400, now priced at $213 (approx. Rs. 10,300).

Also, the price of the Phenom II X4 920 CPU has been reduced from $235 (approx. Rs. 11,200) to $195 (approx. Rs. 9300) and competes with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300, now priced at $183 (approx. Rs. 8800).

AMD's quad-core processors are almost at par with Intel's quad-core processors. However, the major difference between them is in the thermal design power rating; power consumption under task load was found to be higher in the AMD quad-core chips.

^^^ this is on techtree

source ::: *www.techtree.com/India/News/AMD_Phenom_II_Prices_Slip/551-98025-581.html
 
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amitash

Intel OCer
@compaddict
whatever you say amd has very bad drivers compared to nvidia but its not their fault...nvidia pays game manufacturers to optimize games for their cards...and when i bought the 3870x2 it was the fastest card on the market even faster than 8800gt sli in all benchmarks but then newer games came out and nvidia cards performed much better...i have no regrets..im able ve play every game at the highest settings
 

comp@ddict

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Yes, I agree wid u totally.

But there;s hope with Catalyst 9.1, a simple google search showed HD4870x2 improving by almost 10 frames on an average.
 
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