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Tommy Vercetti
Broken In
I am going to Lamington road this weekend or the next for getting an upgrade. This is the my current PC config:
P4 1.7G
Asrock 845 mobo
1GB DDR RAM
XFX GeForce FX 5200 128 MB
40 GB HDD
Have 25K with me and since latest games dont run or slugisshly run on my PC, I am planning to upgrade 3 components : Proc, Mobo and graphic card. Will upgrade other components later.
Getting this upgrade mainly for gaming but I have 100s of applications with only Intel Pentium support. So I will have to stick to a Intel Pentium Processor. But if you could give +ve of AMD I will like to hear that too.
I have the price for the graphic card XFX Geforce 6600GT 256Mb at 9500 which I intend to buy. Perhaps this fits it my budget. Is there a better one than this at the price of 10k. Any Ati card ? Dont know about Ati cards much. Have been a Nvidia loyalist since they are the recommended and tested cards for every second game that comes out.
Do Ati cards have good support too ? Please mention the manufacuterer names eg XFX etc
Please suggest processor and mobo config with manufacturer names with approx prices. Does 3Ghz and 3.2 Ghz have different architectures ? Which mobo should i go for ? 915 or 945 or ....? Does 3Ghz fit on a 945. Will it cost me much. Is there much of a price difference between 3Ghz and cpus above 3Ghz ? Will the 3Ghz processor have a good enuf life. Or will it get old in 6 months gaming wise
Also I have 1GB DDR ram now. Will it work on the these motherboards
Whoa ! Lots of questions. Please reply soon if possible since I may go for the upgrade tomorrow itself.
Thanks in advance.[/b]
P4 1.7G
Asrock 845 mobo
1GB DDR RAM
XFX GeForce FX 5200 128 MB
40 GB HDD
Have 25K with me and since latest games dont run or slugisshly run on my PC, I am planning to upgrade 3 components : Proc, Mobo and graphic card. Will upgrade other components later.
Getting this upgrade mainly for gaming but I have 100s of applications with only Intel Pentium support. So I will have to stick to a Intel Pentium Processor. But if you could give +ve of AMD I will like to hear that too.
I have the price for the graphic card XFX Geforce 6600GT 256Mb at 9500 which I intend to buy. Perhaps this fits it my budget. Is there a better one than this at the price of 10k. Any Ati card ? Dont know about Ati cards much. Have been a Nvidia loyalist since they are the recommended and tested cards for every second game that comes out.
Do Ati cards have good support too ? Please mention the manufacuterer names eg XFX etc
Please suggest processor and mobo config with manufacturer names with approx prices. Does 3Ghz and 3.2 Ghz have different architectures ? Which mobo should i go for ? 915 or 945 or ....? Does 3Ghz fit on a 945. Will it cost me much. Is there much of a price difference between 3Ghz and cpus above 3Ghz ? Will the 3Ghz processor have a good enuf life. Or will it get old in 6 months gaming wise
Also I have 1GB DDR ram now. Will it work on the these motherboards
Whoa ! Lots of questions. Please reply soon if possible since I may go for the upgrade tomorrow itself.
Thanks in advance.[/b]
vijay_7287
Cyborg Agent
well ur choice depends how strictly u wanna stick to Budget
firstly i think u r spot on with ur choice for the GFX card
think no more
XFX geforce 6600gt is the best bet
now the processor,
i would always suggest goin for an AMD
coz u have ur reservations here is my pic for intel in the 15k range
INTEL P4 3.0ghz (lga 775)
Rs 9500
Mercury 915gvm
Rs 4800
as the procs go there isnt much diff between the 3.0 and 3.2 procs
but i advise u to think abt AMD
this the combo
AMD athlon64 3200+ (939 pin)
Rs 10500
ASUS k8n-e
Rs 5500
the above combo will beat intel on any given day
and moreover u will also get the 64 bit support with this combo !!!
firstly i think u r spot on with ur choice for the GFX card
think no more
XFX geforce 6600gt is the best bet
now the processor,
i would always suggest goin for an AMD
coz u have ur reservations here is my pic for intel in the 15k range
INTEL P4 3.0ghz (lga 775)
Rs 9500
Mercury 915gvm
Rs 4800
as the procs go there isnt much diff between the 3.0 and 3.2 procs
but i advise u to think abt AMD
this the combo
AMD athlon64 3200+ (939 pin)
Rs 10500
ASUS k8n-e
Rs 5500
the above combo will beat intel on any given day
and moreover u will also get the 64 bit support with this combo !!!
OP
abhijit_reddevil
Manchester United
Vijay, I think the 3200+ is a lot cheaper these days, somewhere in the range of 8000, for 11000, you can get 3500+.
Aniruddh
Ambassador of Buzz
man i agree with others better go for AMD instead of that junk(intel).AMD is far better then intel for gaming and is more VFM. as u hav a budget of 20k so i'll suggest u to go for AMD64 3000+(939) with Asus A8NE this is a gr8 combo and will fit in ur budget.and as u hav already decided get a 6600GT card Leadtek(recommended) or XFX. 3000+ and Asus A8NE combo will cost u 12k.
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gxsaurav
Guest
Athlon64 3000+ venice E3 & E6 cores are no longer manufactured, old used need not worry at all,
the new stepping is E4 core, look for that
the new stepping is E4 core, look for that
Tommy Vercetti
Broken In
Will switching over to AMD render any of existing hardware unusable. Nobody has answered my queries about the RAM. Plz help.
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gxsaurav
Guest
I hear people always say, AMD is good, AMD is better then Intel, of course it is, but when it comes to chipsets, Intel still rocks, their chipsets are least quirky & most stable
What we should under stand that most of the people out there don't buy an add in graphics card with their system, they buy onboard video based motherboard, with the option to buy a gfx card later. For this they only have a 3 choices
1) ATI Chipset with DirectX 9c based onboard gfx, for this the RS480 chipset is available, but ATI chipsets as a chipset are not that performance oriented compared to Nforce or even highest end VIA or SiS chipset, believe me, try benching for CPU specific benchmarks, & U will find out, also the drivers are quite big, but the good thing is they are also not too buggy & hardly need regular updates. Besides ATI chipset is also available for Intel
2) NVIDIA Nforce 4 variants, this chipset is good, but without onboard gfx, so it is again out of the regular buyer choice question, sure it's really good for gaming, but u also have to buy at least a Rs 3000 graphics card with it, as it has no support for AGP
3) Geforce 6100/6150, Just released, about 2 months ago, & by far the most balanced chipset for value category, infect a perfect companion to go for even if U r making a system for high end gaming, as it is basically a Nforce 4 ultra chip + Geforce 6200 level graphics capability slapped in one package, with an option to add a PCI-E based gfx card later, but so far their is hardly any major manufacturer with full ATX motherboard, there are 3 motherboards for this chipset available in India
Asus A8N-VM CSM
MSI K8NGM2
Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT
However other then the Asus, rest are hard to find, but if u can find one, get one, as I said all these are MicroATX motherboards, so if u can live with 2 PCI slots, then only buy this.
4) VIA/SiS, these chipsets are although less popular, but these are very strong, although not in onboard gfx department, it's still DirectX 7 based, so if U are buying a Gfx card, at the time of purchasing a PC then u can also get these if the price is right. If u can find a motherboard with VIA K8M890 chipset, then go for it, it got solid S3 graphics, which is good even for light gaming, & enough to run windows Vista along with hardware video acceleration (as mentioned by VIA)
I right now, hardly recommend the Asus A8N-E rev.2 motherboard for High end system, if u are also buying a gfx card, else anyone of the 3 above mentioned Geforce 6100/6150 based motherboards, although be warned that there are only 2 PCI slots, although the onboard audio is Intel HD audio based, 7.1 channel, they are good enough for everyone out there, even support OpenAL with creative OpenAL drivers installed, so they are better then SB live anyway, but not better then Audigy 2 or X-fi, as they are complete hardware based
One thing to add that AMD has stopped the production of Athlon64 3000+ at all, now the lowest CPU U can find in that range is Athlon64 3200+ E6 or E4 core, however there is still enough stock for A64 3000+ in the market. U can identify the new core by the Processar number as ADA3200CGBOX, notice they will be labled CG
What we should under stand that most of the people out there don't buy an add in graphics card with their system, they buy onboard video based motherboard, with the option to buy a gfx card later. For this they only have a 3 choices
1) ATI Chipset with DirectX 9c based onboard gfx, for this the RS480 chipset is available, but ATI chipsets as a chipset are not that performance oriented compared to Nforce or even highest end VIA or SiS chipset, believe me, try benching for CPU specific benchmarks, & U will find out, also the drivers are quite big, but the good thing is they are also not too buggy & hardly need regular updates. Besides ATI chipset is also available for Intel
2) NVIDIA Nforce 4 variants, this chipset is good, but without onboard gfx, so it is again out of the regular buyer choice question, sure it's really good for gaming, but u also have to buy at least a Rs 3000 graphics card with it, as it has no support for AGP
3) Geforce 6100/6150, Just released, about 2 months ago, & by far the most balanced chipset for value category, infect a perfect companion to go for even if U r making a system for high end gaming, as it is basically a Nforce 4 ultra chip + Geforce 6200 level graphics capability slapped in one package, with an option to add a PCI-E based gfx card later, but so far their is hardly any major manufacturer with full ATX motherboard, there are 3 motherboards for this chipset available in India
Asus A8N-VM CSM
MSI K8NGM2
Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT
However other then the Asus, rest are hard to find, but if u can find one, get one, as I said all these are MicroATX motherboards, so if u can live with 2 PCI slots, then only buy this.
4) VIA/SiS, these chipsets are although less popular, but these are very strong, although not in onboard gfx department, it's still DirectX 7 based, so if U are buying a Gfx card, at the time of purchasing a PC then u can also get these if the price is right. If u can find a motherboard with VIA K8M890 chipset, then go for it, it got solid S3 graphics, which is good even for light gaming, & enough to run windows Vista along with hardware video acceleration (as mentioned by VIA)
I right now, hardly recommend the Asus A8N-E rev.2 motherboard for High end system, if u are also buying a gfx card, else anyone of the 3 above mentioned Geforce 6100/6150 based motherboards, although be warned that there are only 2 PCI slots, although the onboard audio is Intel HD audio based, 7.1 channel, they are good enough for everyone out there, even support OpenAL with creative OpenAL drivers installed, so they are better then SB live anyway, but not better then Audigy 2 or X-fi, as they are complete hardware based
One thing to add that AMD has stopped the production of Athlon64 3000+ at all, now the lowest CPU U can find in that range is Athlon64 3200+ E6 or E4 core, however there is still enough stock for A64 3000+ in the market. U can identify the new core by the Processar number as ADA3200CGBOX, notice they will be labled CG
vijay_7287
Cyborg Agent
digitized said:
the price quoted was frm e-bay
obviously local markets for much less !!!
sorry ... that price was for 6600 not 6600 GT ...
and my dealer 1 managed to get me a x800xl for 17900 ...
so now my possible configs are ...
if my dad allows me to get from 2 dealers then this other one has told me that he has an LCD 1 week old which someone wants to return ....
so ill get that (so 14500 - 2000 for old - 2500 for current = 10k) otherwise ill get from dealer 1 at 12k(14.5k - 2.5k for old)
config 1(6600 gt)
AMD Athlon 3500+ 939 10900
Asus A8N-E 5600
SEAGATE 160GB SATA 4450
XFX 6600GT 256 MB 11400
2GB DDR TRANSCEND (400 MHz) 10000
LITEON/LG Dual Layer DVD writer 3400
Microsoft keyboard 400
Logitech MX - 518 2650
cabinet with 500W SMPS 3600
Epson CX4700 7600
UPS 2000
17" LCD 10000
72000
config 2
AMD Athlon 3500+ 939 10900
Asus A8N-E 5600
SEAGATE 160GB SATA 4450
ATI X800XL 128 MB 17900
2GB DDR TRANSCEND (400 MHz) 10000
LITEON/LG Dual Layer DVD writer 3400
Microsoft keyboard 400
Logitech MX - 518 2650
cabinet with 500W SMPS 3600
Epson CX4700 7600
UPS 2000
LCD(from razzaq) 10000
78500
config 3 (all frm dealer 1)
AMD Athlon 3500+ 939 10900
Asus A8N-E 5600
SEAGATE 160GB SATA 4450
ATI X800XL 128 MB 17900
1.5GB DDR TRANSCEND (400 MHz) 7500
LITEON/LG Dual Layer DVD writer 3400
Microsoft keyboard 400
Logitech MX - 518 2650
cabinet with 500W SMPS 3600
Epson CX4700 7600
UPS 2000
17" LCD 12000
78000
remember i have abt 4k in my pocket so i think ill get the keyboard and mouse later on .... with my money ... and my budget is strictly 75k !!
for those who feel that i shd get the 6600gt for 12k and not my x800xl check my earlier post on the comparison (THO MY FRIEND IS BUGGIN ME NOW SAYIN THAT the GT has pixel shader which is more imp? and i shd go for the 6800gs instead??)
im saving on the SLI board as well as i discovered that i hafta put the exact same graphics card and that is really not possible again ...
also, the LCD .. someone told me that tho LCD is good for watchin movs and all the thing is that games LAG on it ?? (especially CounterStrike) .. does that happen ??? pls tell me asap as i have to finalise with this guy on monday ...
any comments abt the ups as i havent talked to him abt it yet ...
and i do wanna ask him why the cabinet is so exp ...
ciao
and my dealer 1 managed to get me a x800xl for 17900 ...
so now my possible configs are ...
if my dad allows me to get from 2 dealers then this other one has told me that he has an LCD 1 week old which someone wants to return ....
so ill get that (so 14500 - 2000 for old - 2500 for current = 10k) otherwise ill get from dealer 1 at 12k(14.5k - 2.5k for old)
config 1(6600 gt)
AMD Athlon 3500+ 939 10900
Asus A8N-E 5600
SEAGATE 160GB SATA 4450
XFX 6600GT 256 MB 11400
2GB DDR TRANSCEND (400 MHz) 10000
LITEON/LG Dual Layer DVD writer 3400
Microsoft keyboard 400
Logitech MX - 518 2650
cabinet with 500W SMPS 3600
Epson CX4700 7600
UPS 2000
17" LCD 10000
72000
config 2
AMD Athlon 3500+ 939 10900
Asus A8N-E 5600
SEAGATE 160GB SATA 4450
ATI X800XL 128 MB 17900
2GB DDR TRANSCEND (400 MHz) 10000
LITEON/LG Dual Layer DVD writer 3400
Microsoft keyboard 400
Logitech MX - 518 2650
cabinet with 500W SMPS 3600
Epson CX4700 7600
UPS 2000
LCD(from razzaq) 10000
78500
config 3 (all frm dealer 1)
AMD Athlon 3500+ 939 10900
Asus A8N-E 5600
SEAGATE 160GB SATA 4450
ATI X800XL 128 MB 17900
1.5GB DDR TRANSCEND (400 MHz) 7500
LITEON/LG Dual Layer DVD writer 3400
Microsoft keyboard 400
Logitech MX - 518 2650
cabinet with 500W SMPS 3600
Epson CX4700 7600
UPS 2000
17" LCD 12000
78000
remember i have abt 4k in my pocket so i think ill get the keyboard and mouse later on .... with my money ... and my budget is strictly 75k !!
for those who feel that i shd get the 6600gt for 12k and not my x800xl check my earlier post on the comparison (THO MY FRIEND IS BUGGIN ME NOW SAYIN THAT the GT has pixel shader which is more imp? and i shd go for the 6800gs instead??)
im saving on the SLI board as well as i discovered that i hafta put the exact same graphics card and that is really not possible again ...
also, the LCD .. someone told me that tho LCD is good for watchin movs and all the thing is that games LAG on it ?? (especially CounterStrike) .. does that happen ??? pls tell me asap as i have to finalise with this guy on monday ...
any comments abt the ups as i havent talked to him abt it yet ...
and i do wanna ask him why the cabinet is so exp ...
ciao
@Tommy Vercetti
1 gb ram will cost u between 4800 and 5000 for transcend .. u can save upto 400 bucks if u get hynix , tho u shd go for transcend ... also try to get kingston or corsair .. they're even better than transcend but diff to find ...
6600gt 256 mb is a steal at 9500 .. get it .. coz the price i have for that is 11500, 128mb given to me is at 9500
go in for AMD as it ROCKS and is the best especially for someone who games .. combine it with ur GT and rock ...
1 gb ram will cost u between 4800 and 5000 for transcend .. u can save upto 400 bucks if u get hynix , tho u shd go for transcend ... also try to get kingston or corsair .. they're even better than transcend but diff to find ...
6600gt 256 mb is a steal at 9500 .. get it .. coz the price i have for that is 11500, 128mb given to me is at 9500
go in for AMD as it ROCKS and is the best especially for someone who games .. combine it with ur GT and rock ...
Aniruddh
Ambassador of Buzz
its all up to u no doubt that X800XL is a very good card but i juz suggested 6800GS which is bout 2k less expensive and at the same time even it is a very good performer so juz for an option if u r tight on budget.6800GS and X800XL is almost the same i guess performance wise may b X800XL is slightly better.
Aniruddh said:
see this
name pipelines coreclock memclock membus memband cost
x800xl 16 400Mhz 500 Mhz 256bits 32 GB/s 18k
6600gt 8 500Mhz 500 Mhz 128bits 16GB/s 10k
6800 12 325MHz 350MHz 256-bits 22.40GB/s ??
6800gt 16 350MHz 500MHz 256-bits 32.00GB/s 20k
u decide which 1 is better ... gs wd obviously b between gt and normal ... so ...
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gxsaurav
Guest
XFX has introduced the XFX 6800GS XXX edition, which is a overclocked edition of the 6800GS & it matches the 6800GT in performance, but at a far less cost, look for this one too
HI its good to be here I am new here...can anyone plz give a good detail complete configuration for intel based pc..50k buget..in detail completely with price mentioned...I need it today plz..as I wanna get a new pc as soon as I can...also wht is the price of pentium D 830 processor and 955XBK motherbrd and are they worth buying are they good? or should I go for 945 motherbrd also should i go for intel mother board or..plz can anyone help..I want the best I can get..
vijay_7287
Cyborg Agent
^^
i suggest u think abt AMD
please check these links to make a choice
for the list of prices of various products
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11272
for the hardware contact list
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19005
and the check the first few pages of this thread for the config details !!!
i suggest u think abt AMD
please check these links to make a choice
for the list of prices of various products
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11272
for the hardware contact list
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19005
and the check the first few pages of this thread for the config details !!!
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