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abhijit_reddevil

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EDITED ON 4TH MAY 2006:
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:) Well, I have seen lots of separate threads regarding upgrade configurations and suggestions so I decided to write this in a separate final thread. I am hoping this thread will serve as a guideline for all forum members regarding their upgrade configurations. All queries regrading configuration of a new machine or upgrading an existing one should be addressed
here. Request the mods to make this thread sticky.

For the pricing, I have mostly taken help from www.deltapage.com. Also kindly refer to november'05 digit for comprehensive list of motherboards for both Intel and AMD platforms.

To facililitate, I have divided the configurations into low end, mid-range, high end and ultra high end. This is also a relative opinion. The config which appears as high end to us might not satisfy some other high end users. They might think it as mid-range. The converse is also true. Forum members, please forgive me if I have made any mistakes. This is just a small humble attempt at summarizing what I have learnt in the last year or so from the forum. Well, here I go.

Firstly let us define what will the price limitations for the different configs. I have come to the following conclusions.

Low end: < Rs.25000

Mid range: Between Rs.35000 and Rs. 40000

High end: ~ Rs.50000

Ultra high end: > Rs.60000

There is no limit a person can go for a ultra high end machine. But surely it will have all the premium components. So I cannot fix a price range...

Since personally I am an an AMD fan, I have put the different configs for AMD platform. For people who love Intel, just replace the processor and motherboard, the rest of the components remain the same.

Low end:
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Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ ~ Rs.5800
Motherboard: Asus A8N-VM / Asus A8N-VM CSM ~ Rs.3850 / Rs.6000
Hard disc: 80GB SATA (Seagate/Samsung) ~ Rs.2550
RAM: 256MB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) ~ Rs.1200 (for memory modules go for Transcend/Corsair/Zion)
Optical drive: Sony combo drive ~ Rs.1750
Monitor: Samsung 15" non flat ~ Rs.4000
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.400
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Speakers: Any 2.1 speaker ~ Rs.2000 to Rs.3000 (Eg: Creative SBS 2.1 370 or Altec Lansing ATP3)
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 400W SMPS ~ Rs.1500

Total: Approx Rs.23500-Rs.25500. Of course price can be reduced if you get low end 2.0 stereo speakers. The usage for this machine will be standard office tasks, internet surfing, listening to music, occassional gaming at low resolutions.

Mid range: This is where things start to get interesting, many people will have many different opinions.
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Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (socket 939 Venice core) ~ Rs.7750
Motherboard: Asus A8N-VM CSM ~ Rs.6000
Hard disc: 80GB SATA ~ Rs.2500
Graphics card: Nvidia Geforce 6200 128 bit 128MB/6600 DDR2 version 128MB ~ Rs.3500 to Rs.6500 depending on your choice. (from any manufacturer like XFX, MSI, Leadtek, Gigabyte etc)
RAM: 512MB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (256MB X 2) ~ Rs.2400
Optical drive: Sony combo drive ~ Rs.1750
Monitor: Samsung/Acer 17" flat ~ Rs.6300 (I particularly like the Acer model AC 715 as it supports upto 1600 X 1200 resolutions @ 75Hz)
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.400
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Speakers: Any 2.1 speaker ~ Rs.2000 to Rs.3000 (Eg: Creative SBS 2.1 370 or Altec Lansing ATP3)
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 400W SMPS ~ Rs.1500

Total: Approx Rs.34000 to Rs.37000 depending on the choice of components made. The usage will be medium gaming primarily and other tasks to follow alongwith.

High end: This is my favourite.
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Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (socket 939) ~ Rs.7750
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E ~ Rs.5600
Hard disc: 80GB SATA ~ Rs.2500
Graphics card: Nvidia Geforce 7600GT ~ Rs.14000
RAM: 1GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (512MB X 2) ~ Rs.4400
Optical drive: Sony combo drive ~ Rs.1750
Monitor: Samsung/Acer 17" flat ~ Rs.6300
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.400
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Speakers: Any 5.1 speaker ~ Rs.4000 to Rs.6000 (Eg: Creative Inspire 5.1 5200 or Altec Lansing VS 3151)
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 400W SMPS ~ Rs.1500

Total: Approx Rs.51000 depending on the choice of components. Usage will be heavy gaming primarily and other tasks.

Ultra high end:
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This will contain all premium components. Here also many people will have many different choice of components. There are many high end components available in the market, so nothing (read, pricing) is fixed. But most certainly it will be a machine with a high end AMD processor like a 3500+ or even a 4200+ X2 dual core,...or even a AMD Athlon 64 FX-53/55/57/60 (X2). It will also be a SLI setup. I feel that unless you most certainly use two graphics cards, it is useless to have a SLI motherboard. The graphics cards could range from Nvidia 6800GS to 7900GTX, both as standalone and also SLI setup. It could also be a Radeon X1900XT/XTX or X1800XT in single or in crossfire mode. Monitors could range from 17" CRT to 19" LCD. Optical drives are almost certainly a Sony Dual Layer DVD-writer. Ram should be at least a GB or even 1.5GB. The SLI motherboard will mostly be A8N32-SLI deluxe (with full x16 mode in both slots). In the earlier version of this guide, I had mentioned about A8N-SLI/SLI deluxe/premium. But they have x8 mode in both slots maximum when running SLI. So full power of the graphics card will not be utilized. Or if someone is not satisfied with on board sound he can of course get a creative X-Fi or a Audigy2 ZS/ZS platinum pro. My choice of speakers would be Logitech Z 5300/5500 or Creative Gigaworks S750 or Altec Lansing 641. Finally SLI requires huge amounts of power. Try to get at least a
550/650W power supply from reputed brands like Antec and which is SLI certified.

So here goes one of the configurations. I am repeating again that since people in this segment of purchasers have unlimited budget, nothing is fixed.

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ~ Rs.10350
Motherboard: A8N32-SLI deluxe ~ Rs.19500
Hard disc: 160GB SATA ~ Rs.3850
Graphics card: Nvidia Geforce 7800GT ~ Rs.23500 depending on your choice. (from any manufacturer like XFX, MSI, Leadtek, Gigabyte etc.)

OR SLI setups:

2 X 7600GT, 2 X 7800GT etc (I feel that unless you have anything lesser than 7600GT, SLI is waste of money as the combined price of the two cards can lead you to a higher end card. But always remember, there is always something which is better than the best. One thing of note is that of a cheap way of getting performance of a 7800GTX 256MB, which is combining two 6800GS's, so the money invested is lesser at that time, almost half. Eg: you thought you will buy a 7800GTX and you have a 6800GS at the present. So instead of spending almost Rs.30000 for 7800GTX, you can spend Rs.14000 and something for a SLI certified power supply and get performance equivalent of a 7800GTX 256MB. And so on...).

RAM: 1GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (512MB X 2) ~ Rs.4400
Optical drives: Sony Dual Layer DVD writer (DRU 820A) / Benq DW 1650 ~ Rs.2800
Monitor: Samsung/Acer 17" flat ~ Rs.6300
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.400
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Speakers: Logitech Z5300 5.1 speaker (THX Certified) ~ Rs.13000
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 550W SMPS ~ Rs.2500

Total without SLI: Approx Rs.87000
Total with 6800GS / 7600GT SLI setup: Approx Rs. 101000

For reference, I have put the approximate prices of the core high end components. People can design their own rig choosing from here.

Athlon 64 3200+ ~ Rs.7750
Athlon 64 3500+ ~ Rs.10350
Athlon 64 3800+ Dual core X2 ~ Rs.16500

Asus A8N32 SLI deluxe ~ Rs.19500

XFX 6800 GS 256MB ~ Rs. 13500
XFX GeForce 7900 GTX ULTRA Extreme OC 512MB 690Mhz/1750Mhz ~ Rs.38000
XFX 7800GTX 256MB ~ Rs.29500
XFX 7800GT 256MB ~ Rs.23500

I suppose the prices of 7800GT / 7900GT are almost same (at least in the US). Can someone please confirm about the prices here?

Please refer to the separate thread for hardware prices and qoutes for the detailed pricing of components. Please correct me if I have made any mistakes regarding pricing.

For Intel, as I said, only the processor and motherboard and in some cases the RAM is different. Intel boards support DDR2 RAM nowadays. It runs at speeds of 533Mhz. The other components remain same.

So here goes:

For low end:
Processor: P4 2.8GHz ~ Rs.4900
Motherboard: Intel D915GAV/Intel D101GGC ~ Rs.5200/Rs.3700

Mid range:
Processor: P4 LGA 775 3.0GHz HT 64 bit ~ Rs. 8050
Motherboard: Anyone with 945G chipset, eg: Intel 945G ~ Rs.6150
RAM: 512MB DDR2 RAM ~ Rs.3000

HIgh end:
Processor: P4 LGA 775 3.0GHz HT 64 bit ~ Rs. 8050
Motherboard: Anyone with 945G chipset, eg: Intel 945G ~ Rs.6150
RAM: 1GB DDR2 RAM ~ Rs.6000

Ultra high end:
Processor: P4 Dual core 2.8GHz ~ Rs. 11400
Motherboard: Anyone with 955G chipset, eg: Gigabyte GA-81-955X royal ~ Rs.19000
RAM: 1GB DDR2 RAM ~ Rs.6000

I have only one doubt regarding the pricing of DDR2 RAM. Request the other members to confirm the price I have mentioned.

Hope I was of help. Thanks for reading. :)

Some general guidelines:
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Buy AMD 64 bit (AMD fanboyism...;) )

If choice is between 6800GS/7600GT, buy the latter, cost is almost same.

If choice is between 7800GT/7900GT, buy the latter, cost is almost same (?).

AMD 3800+ X2 gives more value for money than 4200+ X2

CRT is always better than LCD unless you are buying an LCD with response time < 8ms. But they are expensive. CRT's have more value for money.

More tips and additions and editing will be done based on feedback.

Cordless keyboard/mouse are waste of money unless you want to show off or you have a DVI output on your graphics card and you connect it to a large screen TV (>25") for some wide and large screen gaming (by wide I mean aspect ratio of 16:9 instead of normal 4:3).

If you have any more queries, please do not hesitate to PM me or post in the same thread. Also it would be great if this is made sticky, as then people would not make their own separate threads about new and upgrade configurations. I will try my best to update it regularly.
 
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Ringwraith

Journeyman
Thats a great post! :) unlike many of the posts on this forum...Good work!!
I m sure it will be of help to a lot of ppl
 

Aniruddh

Ambassador of Buzz
yea gr8 post buddy.it will surely help most of them who is looking for a nu rig or a upgrade.
 

madman123

Broken In
dude, amazing post, as i'm looking to put something together...this really does help get the price situation in my head...
the only thing that itches me is the ram price....u sure its that cheap....
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
madman123 said:
dude, amazing post, as i'm looking to put something together...this really does help get the price situation in my head...
the only thing that itches me is the ram price....u sure its that cheap....

Ya, that's why I told that please confirm the price of DDR2 RAM. You are speaking of that, isn't it? As you are from Delhi, you can easily confirm from Nehru Place. I am quite sure about the price of DDR RAM 400Mhz, no confusions there.
 

CyCo

In the zone
ur post is almost perfect for me ....

just help me out here ..

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32260

im not buyin spkrs as already have sexy 1's .. rest everythin is new. .. budget is abt 65k confirmed .. !!!

im from pune ..
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
Cyco buddy, follow what sidewinder has said. Go for AMD. This brand rocks!!! It will whip the a** out of a comparable P4 anyday. And since you have said that you are a hardcore gamer, AMD 64-bit is the future. Don't understand why people who love gaming still want to buy Intel. Anyway, AMD runs a lot cooler as well and it overclocks like a dream. Read any tech site reviews for reference. And also it is useless to use SLI unless we have two 6800GT at least.

But here goes your config.Well, there are two options, one there is an option of a dual core AMD 4200+, or you can go for a 3500+ venice. The graphics card I have chosen is X800 XL simply because it is a lot cheaper than 6800GT but is has 256 bit memory interface and core and memory speeds are 490/980 Mhz DDR3 and it gives the 6800GT a run for it's money at higher resolutions with AA/AF turned on. Or you can go for 3500+ with 6800GT. I am giving all the possibilities. And also for RAM, we will take only Kingston or Corsair or Transcend.

Config 1:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ~ Rs.11000
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E ~ Rs.5600
Hard disc: 120GB ~ Rs.3200
Graphics card: Radeon X800XL ~ Rs.18000
RAM: 1GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (512MB X 2) ~ Rs.4400
Optical drives: Sony Dual Layer DVD writer ~ Rs.3500 & Sony DVD-ROM ~ Rs.1300
Monitor: Samsung/Acer 17" flat ~ Rs.6500
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.450
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 450W SMPS ~ Rs.2500

Total ~ 57000 plus VAT ;) (1GB RAM) or 61500 with 2GB RAM.

Config 2:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ ~ Rs.26000
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E ~ Rs.5600
Hard disc: 120GB ~ Rs.3200
Graphics card: Radeon X800 XL ~ Rs.18000
RAM: 1GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (512MB X 2) ~ Rs.4400
Optical drives: Sony Dual Layer DVD writer ~ Rs.3500
Monitor: Samsung/Acer 17" flat ~ Rs.6500
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.450
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 450W SMPS ~ Rs.2500

Total ~ 70500 plus VAT ;)

Config 3:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ~ Rs.11000
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E ~ Rs.5600
Hard disc: 120GB ~ Rs.3200
Graphics card: Geforce 6800GT ~ Rs.26000
RAM: 1GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (512MB X 2) ~ Rs.4400
Optical drives: Sony Dual Layer DVD writer ~ Rs.3500
Monitor: Samsung/Acer 17" flat ~ Rs.6500
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.450
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 450W SMPS ~ Rs.2500

Total ~ 64000 plus VAT ;)

If I were you I would have gone for config-2 as it is the best among the three for high resolution gaming. Since you have specified that you do not need speakers, we have not taken the price of speakers into the config. And for gaming at 1600X 1200 get the acer AC 715 (1600 X 1200 @ 75Hz max). It is also digit's best performance winner. Config-2 will rock buddy, no need for SLI.

DDR2 is only supported by Intel boards currently. But performance difference between DDR 400Mhz and DDR2 533Mhz is marginal.

Let us know the final decision on your config and the prices when you get it. Thanks for reading and happy computing and gaming.
 
G

gxsaurav

Guest
I should add that for workstation tasks like 3D Max & Photoshop, Hyperthreading based Intel CPU's are still better then AMD, not to mention while encoding, they are noticibally faster
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
Cyco, did you get your machine? What is the configuration?

Anyway, I just wanted you guys to take notice of the fact that someone copied my entire original post and posted it in the IC chip forums!!! I have made my post on wednesday november 16, 10PM, that person made his post on Friday, november 18, 10:22PM. That is how I came to the conclusion that he copied and he himself is claiming that he is the author of such a post. See this link if you do not believe.

*www.chip-india.com/townsquare/viewtopic.php?t=6602

What say people???!!! He even copied the title of the post word for word.
 

Netjunkie

In the zone
@ digitized
Not only your post, some other posts are also copied & posted under his name. We cant do much about it. Its upto the person to realise.

Anyways, dont you think that the LCD monitor would be great for the High end systems. Also you didn't add the UPS to config lists.
Great post mate. Really helpfull :)
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
Netjunkie said:
@ digitized
Not only your post, some other posts are also copied & posted under his name. We cant do much about it. Its upto the person to realise.

Anyways, dont you think that the LCD monitor would be great for the High end systems. Also you didn't add the UPS to config lists.
Great post mate. Really helpfull :)

Netjunkie, the only reason I didn't add a LCD monitor to the high end systems is that CRT still offers the best value for money in the 15" and 17" segment. I feel that LCD's are a waste of money and only for show. It will unnecessary increase the system cost. A 17" samsung/LG LCD still costs around 8-9k than in it's CRT counterpart. That 8k can be spent in other better components. But people can buy LCD if they like.

Here are some of the rough estimate on the prices.

Samsung 15" ~ 10700
Samsung 17" ~ 14600

LG 15" ~ 10100
LG 17" ~ 15200

I admit that I have missed the UPS part. My sincerest apologies. Can you give suggestions regarding the appropriate UPS for each of the four machines along with their power ratings and their prices? Then I will incorporate that and edit the original post.
 

CyCo

In the zone
hey

how bout ths ??

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53/55/57 - ?????????
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E ~ Rs.5600
Hard disc: 160GB SATA ~ ?????????
Graphics card: 6600 GS
RAM: 2GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (1GB X 2) ~ ???????
Optical drives: Sony Dual Layer DVD writer ~ Rs.3500 & Sony DVD-ROM ~ Rs.1300
Monitor: Acer Flat AC 715~ Rs.6500
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.450
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 450W SMPS ~ Rs.2500

i want a kul cabinet 2 as in da sense of luks 2 ...

thanks a ton guys ..
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
CyCo said:
hey

how bout ths ??

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53/55/57 - ?????????
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E ~ Rs.5600
Hard disc: 160GB SATA ~ ?????????
Graphics card: 6600 GS
RAM: 2GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (1GB X 2) ~ ???????
Optical drives: Sony Dual Layer DVD writer ~ Rs.3500 & Sony DVD-ROM ~ Rs.1300
Monitor: Acer Flat AC 715~ Rs.6500
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.450
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 450W SMPS ~ Rs.2500

i want a kul cabinet 2 as in da sense of luks 2 ...

thanks a ton guys ..

Well, Cyco, if you can get a FX-55, then there is nothing like it. Athon FX processors are the best. But ebay India listings say that the price of FX-55 is around Rs.47500!!! If you have that kind of amount, then get it surely.

Also there is nothing like 6600GS. There is 6600GT and 6800GS. 6600GT will cost around Rs.9000 to Rs.11000 depending on the brand and XFX 6800GS is Rs.20995 (price qoute from Rashi Peripherals).6800GS is obviously better than 6600GT. 160GB SATA fom seagate or samsung costs around Rs.4500. RAM 2GB (1GB X 2) 400Mhz will set you back by around Rs.8500.

Seems like you have increased your budget. :wink: But I would have preferred the X800XL over the 6800GS. I have no objections as to the other components. If you have the money, then get it.

By the way, there are a very few users of this forum who have FX-55 in their machines, I think. Correct me if I am wrong. Please also correct me regarding the configuration of Cyco and the prices of his components, if necessary.
 

wiz

Broken In
a friend of mine is going for a new machine and his budget is 60000.need everything- mother.b,proc,hdd,ram,tv-tuner,graphic card(for high end games-PC X800GTO/GT prefered or any other equivalent to it),speakers,monitor,psu,ups,kb & optical mouse,drive.wont be able to upgrade it for a year or two so tell me the best i can get for 60 thou.
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
wiz said:
going for a new machine my budget is 60000.need everything- mother.b,proc,hdd,ram,tv-tuner,graphic card(for high end games-PC X800GTO/GT prefered or any equivalent to it),speakers,monitor,psu,ups,kb & optical mouse,drive.wont be able to upgrade it for a year or two so tell me the best i can get for 60 thou.

One of the configurations referred to Cyco:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ~ Rs.11000
Motherboard: Asus A8N-E ~ Rs.5600
Hard disc: 120GB ~ Rs.3200
Graphics card: Radeon X800XL ~ Rs.18000 (please check)
RAM: 1GB DDR PC 3200 (400 MHz) (512MB X 2) ~ Rs.4400
Optical drives: Sony Dual Layer DVD writer ~ Rs.3500 & Sony DVD-ROM ~ Rs.1300
Monitor: Samsung/Acer 17" flat ~ Rs.6500
Keyboard: Microsoft/Logitech multimedia keyboard ~ Rs.450
Mouse: Microsoft/Logitech optical mouse ~ Rs.400
Cabinet: ATX cabinet with 450W SMPS ~ Rs.2500
Speakers: Creative Inspire 5.1 5200 ~ Rs.4500

Total ~ Rs.61500

X800XL is better than X800GT on all counts mainly due to the raw power of the 16 pixel pipelines compared to the 8 for the X800GT.
 

wiz

Broken In
thank you for that suggestion but need to know few things:-
1-does X800XL support shadar 3.0?if not than tell me a card which support shadar 3.0 and is a good performer.
2-any other motherboard then asus a8ne?have heard about this particular model from asus has some problem with its fan,its very noisy.
3-any models from altec lansing?
4-good psu for this machine?

will make few changes like i dont want a dvd-rw so will go for a dvd rom & cd-rw.and 160gb hdd.
thankyou so much digitized.
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
wiz said:
thank you for that suggestion but need to know few things:-
1-does X800XL support shadar 3.0?if not than tell me a card which support shadar 3.0 and is a good performer.
2-any other motherboard then asus a8ne?have heard about this particular model from asus has some problem with its fan,its very noisy.
3-any models from altec lansing?
4-good psu for this machine?

will make few changes like i dont want a dvd-rw so will go for a dvd rom & cd-rw.and 160gb hdd.
thankyou so much digitized.

1) Check the specifications of X800XL here:

*www.ati.com/products/radeonx800/specs.html

It supports most probably Pixel Shader 2.0. But performancewise the difference is minimal. On the other hand Nvidia 6600GT supports pixel shader 3.0 and is also a good performer, but not as good as the X800XL series. If you want a good performer in the range of X800XL by Nvidia, then get XFX 6800GS. It is in almost the same price range and supports SM 3.0.

2) A8N-E is a great performer. Many people are using it and are satisfied with it. These are minor problems and does not affect the system performance in any way. If at all you want a different board than this one then get DFI Lanparty UT nf4-ultra. It will cost around 8500. It is based on the same chipset as A8N-E and is great for overclocking (if at all you intend to overclock, that is, but do it at your own risk).

3) Altec Lansing VS 3151 (5.1 speaker) (Rs.5500). Or Altec Lansing ATP3 (2.1). Both are great.

4) Antec truepower 450W as separate PSU with the cabinet. Please check the prices.
 

CyCo

In the zone
the thing is i asked abt the fx processor as my frnd told me that it suports HT technology ... ive got 2 guys here .. i has 939 amd 3000+ and the other has penitum 3 with ht .. both have the same 1gb ram ...

on the amd if u start video compression and play cs it lags ..but the penitum can can copy from lan , do 4 video compresssions and play cs at the same time ..

but it looks outta my budget it it is for 50k !!

also, i can save my old monitor ;) ..
its 17" black IBM .. and almost looks flat .. thats why if the LCD is expensive , then i don think it is really worht it as the sale of this monitor would harldy get me 3 grnd or so .. sso i think i shd save this and put the extra 7 grand somewhere ...

what say ?
 

anirudhasarawgi

Journeyman
i m planning of buying a new pc and here is the configuration that i thought:

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939
1 GB DDR3 RAM
Hard disc: Seagate 100GB
MSI Geforce 6600GT 128MB
Asus cdrom 52x (colour: black)/MSI dvd combo drive
ATX tower (colour: black) which one should i buy?
i also a good bluetooth keyboard n mouse combo so plz tell me.

which speakers shud i buy for desktop:-

altec lansing MX5021 or altec lansing CS21

should i go for 6600gt or 6800gt n which brand shud i go for?


So, tell me the prices of all the above mentioned components and help me in decidind the configuration of my new pc...

from,
anirudh
 
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abhijit_reddevil

abhijit_reddevil

Manchester United
CyCo said:
the thing is i asked abt the fx processor as my frnd told me that it suports HT technology ... ive got 2 guys here .. i has 939 amd 3000+ and the other has penitum 3 with ht .. both have the same 1gb ram ...

on the amd if u start video compression and play cs it lags ..but the penitum can can copy from lan , do 4 video compresssions and play cs at the same time ..

but it looks outta my budget it it is for 50k !!

also, i can save my old monitor ;) ..
its 17" black IBM .. and almost looks flat .. thats why if the LCD is expensive , then i don think it is really worht it as the sale of this monitor would harldy get me 3 grnd or so .. sso i think i shd save this and put the extra 7 grand somewhere ...

what say ?

Yes, saving on the monitor and using your old 17" is a sensible decision. And all AMD processors support HT technology and they have 1000Mhz duplex FSB, i.e. 2000Mhz effective. Also the memory controller is on the CPU itself. That is one of the reasons why inspite of having lower clock speeds than it's intel counterparts, it leads in most of the benchmarks. But, google for yourself using "AMD vs. Intel" and you will find further answers. There are tons of sites.

If at all you want Intel based machine, use a P4 dual core 2.8Ghz (Rs.12500) or a 3Ghz HT LGA 775 along with a 945G based motherboard. But that will require DDR2 RAM. Make sure you have DDR2 533Mhz. You have already saved on the monitor, so buying these shouldn't be a problem, provided the budget remains the same.


@Anirudhasarawgi:First, there is nothing like DDR3 RAM on AMD based machine. The AMD boards right now support upto DDR 400MHz, but performance difference is negligible, provided you have the right components, which you have already selected. (1GB 400Mhz @ Rs.4400).

Second, I doubt whether Seagate 100GB is available. Try for a 120GB or a 80GB. (Seagate/Samsung 80GB @ Rs.2500)

Third, MSI 6600GT looks okay, but an alternative also can be Powercolor X800GT. The opinions of all the tech sites say that it is a 6600GT beater. Kindly search for the benchmarks on the net also. If at all 6600GT is your choice, get the Leadtek extreme edition factory overclocked to 550/1120 vs. standard 500/1000. It is one of the best 6600GT around. (Leadtek 6600GT extreme @ Rs.10800, X800GT @ Rs.9900)

Fourth, such a machine does not deserve a plain CD-ROM. A combo drive is the minimum option, that too from Sony/Liteon. (Rs.2000)

Fifth, any ATX tower should do, but opt for a separate SMPS, e.g. Antec truepower 450W. (I have no idea about the price, others might be able to help)

Sixth, I do not have much idea about bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Others might be able to help.

Seventh, I personally have a Altec Lansing MX-5021. It is one of the best 2.1 speakers. Period. The sound is heavenly. A tad expensive around Rs.9000. But cheaper 5.1 options are there (e.g. Altec Lansing VS 3151 @ Rs.5500 or so). Or more expensive ones are there like the Logitech Z5300 @ Rs.13500 (Kolkata price). All are very good, it's your choice which ones should you buy.

Finally please check the final prices and match them with the ones given here.

Happy computing.
 
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