A question on piracy

[bhanja_Trinanjan]

And here are my responses, well worth a read I guess

Let me answer these one by one

Well, i do uderstand that i should use original software, but consider this:

AMD X2 - Rs.3000
Motherboard - Rs. 3000
RAM - Rs. 1000
HDD - Rs. 2500
Monitor - Rs. 4000
Other components, u can guess.

Total Rs. 18000

Windows XP - 3000
Microsoft Office - Rs. 17000
Zonealarm - Rs. 2300 (only for 1 year)

Total - Rs. 22300

What shall I do?

First of all, you got those prices wrong.

You can get a pack of Office 2007 Home & Student Edition for 5000 bucks.
You don't have Outlook in that package, but you could stick to "Windows Mail" in Vista and use Word 2007 as your word processor for composing mails. Or get Open Office.

Why do you need Zonealarm? You can get a better and lighter-on-resources copy of bit defender for roughly 900-1000 bucks. I did. And it is very very light on the system.

Got my copy of OEM Vista for 4000/- You can get a retail pack of Home Premium for 5500-6000. Can get XP Home Edition, if you wish to for 3500/-

^so true Indeed,ppl will buy if a $29.999 software for Rs29 mostly!else....

^you should move onto alternate OS like Linux

Flawed logic. US currency has more purchasing power, and even to our American brethren, 1$ NOT EQUAL TO Re 1 in terms of purchasing power. Something that costs $1000 is just as expensive to the average american as Rs 40,000 is to us.

How can we buy software which costs me more than my computer itself.

here's a small incident. I love photography, but can't afford expensive cameras. So I got a canon powershot A460. When i used it I found the pictures were very noisy. So i searched for its reviews to check whether the camera was faulty or it was normal. On one site I found this written: "The pictures taken from this camera are very noisy, however the pictures cleared well in a high end image editing program. But I wonder whether a person buying a camera worth $200 will buy a software which is more expensive than the camera."

I guess he referred to photoshop.

Wrong again...

You don't need to buy Photoshop CS3 for $600 to fix your photos.

Beleive me, you don't. You can opt for the cheaper Photoshop Elements ($100 roughly) or PAINT.NET (free)

And the best NOISE cleaning software is NOT PHOTOSHOP. Please note that DIGITAL IMAGE EDITING != PHOTOSHOP EXCLUSIVELY, by any stretch of imagination.

For cleaning digital noise, look no further than NeatImage. Do a google search. www.neatimage.com, I guess. And that's not more costly than your Powershot

 

[Maverick340]

Has 'nt this been discussed at great lengths already. In fact i remember i started a topic such. Get over it people , lots use pirated stuff probably 80%. Rest use Legit copies or GNU/Linux. These threads only lead to flame wars ..
EDIT:
ah , according to my 13 page topic , its 88%
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5966&page=13&highlight=piracy

 

[bhanja_Trinanjan]

Has 'nt this been discussed at great lengths already. In fact i remember i started a topic such. Get over it people , lots use pirated stuff probably 80%. Rest use Legit copies or GNU/Linux. These threads only lead to flame wars ..
EDIT:
ah , according to my 13 page topic , its 88%
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5966&page=13&highlight=piracy

What about you ?

 

[Hitboxx]

[Moved to Chit-Chat]

My uncle from Bangalore brought me my first computer back in '98 and it came with Windows 98 already installed, enjoyed that OS very much. Then Microsoft released their best OS ever, the brand new Windows ME, my favourite OS to date. Sadly due to it being very cheap, I couldn't afford it. So I asked my uncle in France to get me a copy and he obliged immediately. Then my uncle in Spain dropped by one day with a copy of Photoshop to my utter delight which he later built on in succession until CS. Then came Windows XP, another ultra-cheap OS from Microsoft for poor people like me, and this time I begged my uncle in China to bring me a copy and I got it. Then followed the subsequent requests to my uncles in Netherlands, Australia, South Africa and Mexico., for copies of other things like office editors, video editors, audio editors, antivirus, you know..the likes. And finally when Windows Vista was released, I begged and begged for more than 100 times to my uncle in USA, and sadly I'm still waiting for it even today. I think all my uncles have disappeared somewhere and maybe it's time I call my aunty.

As said by our IRC baboon, "To Err is Human, To Arr is Pirate!"

Now I pirate Linux.

 

[gcbeldar]

I am using computer since from 1994,

Today, I feel legal software are best, bcoz of Broadband & Support.

I call microsoft (not tollfree) at 4am, got excellent support for Vista, this not the case in previous years, for the people living in towns.

Very Excellent Tollfree support for TALLY Software.

 

[Faun]

^^what are illegal softwares ?

 

[lywyre]

I would like to switch to Open Source. But MS has a near monopoly (hope it dissolves soon) that I have to use Windows & MS Office for the ease of my customers (Internet Cafe).

Planning to have dual boots on all my systems and let users choose the OS they want. But not in a rush though.

 

[ray|raven]

[Moved to Chit-Chat]

My uncle from Bangalore brought me my first computer back in '98 and it came with Windows 98 already installed, enjoyed that OS very much. Then Microsoft released their best OS ever, the brand new Windows ME, my favourite OS to date. Sadly due to it being very cheap, I couldn't afford it. So I asked my uncle in France to get me a copy and he obliged immediately. Then my uncle in Spain dropped by one day with a copy of Photoshop to my utter delight which he later built on in succession until CS. Then came Windows XP, another ultra-cheap OS from Microsoft for poor people like me, and this time I begged my uncle in China to bring me a copy and I got it. Then followed the subsequent requests to my uncles in Netherlands, Australia, South Africa and Mexico., for copies of other things like office editors, video editors, audio editors, antivirus, you know..the likes. And finally when Windows Vista was released, I begged and begged for more than 100 times to my uncle in USA, and sadly I'm still waiting for it even today. I think all my uncles have disappeared somewhere and maybe it's time I call my aunty.

As said by our IRC baboon, "To Err is Human, To Arr is Pirate!"

Now I pirate Linux.

Haha, Nice one Hitboxx.

 

[FilledVoid]

First of all, you got those prices wrong.

You can get a pack of Office 2007 Home & Student Edition for 5000 bucks.
You don't have Outlook in that package, but you could stick to "Windows Mail" in Vista and use Word 2007 as your word processor for composing mails. Or get Open Office.

Why do you need Zonealarm? You can get a better and lighter-on-resources copy of bit defender for roughly 900-1000 bucks. I did. And it is very very light on the system.

Got my copy of OEM Vista for 4000/- You can get a retail pack of Home Premium for 5500-6000. Can get XP
Home Edition, if you wish to for 3500/-

Office 2007 Home and Student Edition = *shopping.rediff.com/shop/productdi...nbr=10246991&source=browse&frompg=Electronics Thats about 8.5k in this ad.

Vista Home Basic - *shopping.rediff.com/shop/productdi...rrfnbr=10266556&menbr=38477&frompg=vista home Thats another 5k + and not to mention the limitations . Doesn't this thing only allow three apps to run simultaneously.

Why not the free copy of ZoneAlarm or Comodo? Why go to waste money on a firewall?

No offense but personally if you were going to go the legal way then purchasing Office <insert version here> would make you look foolish. I'd rather use OpenOffice.org.

 

[ray|raven]

Vista Home Basic - *shopping.rediff.com/shop/productdi...rrfnbr=10266556&menbr=38477&frompg=vista home Thats another 5k + and not to mention the limitations . Doesn't this thing only allow three apps to run simultaneously.

Thats Vista Starter not Basic.
Ofcourse , its normal to be confused, there are too many versions of Vista,
So many , that they have a separate Wikipedia entry for them
*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_editions

 

[m-jeri]

@bhanja...

actually u got all wrong..u said alternative softwares..but wat users want is full fledged choices...not the one with limitations...

piracy or unlicensed software exist just because of price..period..

 

[coolpcguy]

Legit XP {OEM, came with my Dell}

 

[sourav123]

The poll is not fair. I use Linux. There is no option for it!!!

 

[praka123]

^Yeah!even I though that!well,he seems to be one of those guys who still remembers Linux as that is in 2000 boy!Linux had long back overtaken winblows!you gotta revise ur studies!
*www.getgnulinux.org
*www.makethemove.net
^get enlightened!use Linux and FOSS!llet the pirates and those DRMed vi$ta(big flop!) users suffer
*links.gnulinuxmatters.org/en/100x150_6.png

 

[coolpcguy]

*links.gnulinuxmatters.org/en/100x150_6.png

Wish I had a colour printer, so that I could take a printout and paste this (as a sticker) on my laptop

 

[praka123]

^did u tried opensuse 11?

 

[Cool Buddy]

Re: And here are my responses, well worth a read I guess

have you tried clearing them with THE GIMP?

Let me answer these one by one



First of all, you got those prices wrong.

You can get a pack of Office 2007 Home & Student Edition for 5000 bucks.
You don't have Outlook in that package, but you could stick to "Windows Mail" in Vista and use Word 2007 as your word processor for composing mails. Or get Open Office.

Why do you need Zonealarm? You can get a better and lighter-on-resources copy of bit defender for roughly 900-1000 bucks. I did. And it is very very light on the system.

Got my copy of OEM Vista for 4000/- You can get a retail pack of Home Premium for 5500-6000. Can get XP Home Edition, if you wish to for 3500/-





Wrong again...

You don't need to buy Photoshop CS3 for $600 to fix your photos.

Beleive me, you don't. You can opt for the cheaper Photoshop Elements ($100 roughly) or PAINT.NET (free)

And the best NOISE cleaning software is NOT PHOTOSHOP. Please note that DIGITAL IMAGE EDITING != PHOTOSHOP EXCLUSIVELY, by any stretch of imagination.

For cleaning digital noise, look no further than NeatImage. Do a google search. www.neatimage.com, I guess. And that's not more costly than your Powershot

I did not ask for alternatives neither did I say that I use pirated photoshop. I just tried to say that software is expensive than hardware and that is not fair. I'm not gonna buy any software unless it is cheaper than my computer.

 

[bhanja_Trinanjan]

Here's my take again

^Yeah!even I though that!well,he seems to be one of those guys who still remembers Linux as that is in 2000 boy!Linux had long back overtaken winblows!you gotta revise ur studies!
*www.getgnulinux.org
*www.makethemove.net
^get enlightened!use Linux and FOSS!llet the pirates and those DRMed vi$ta(big flop!) users suffer
*links.gnulinuxmatters.org/en/100x150_6.png

@bhanja...



actually u got all wrong..u said alternative softwares..but wat users want is full fledged choices...not the one with limitations...

piracy or unlicensed software exist just because of price..period..

I have tried Linux before. Ubuntu is a truly great OS, secure & stable.. But don't use Linux that much as I am a hardcore gamer.

Never under-estimate the power of software. As I said before, you don't need $600 worth Photoshop CS3 to fix your digital photos. Try NeatImage and Paint.NET... more than enough.

Office 2007 Home and Student Edition = *shopping.rediff.com/shop/productdi...nbr=10246991&source=browse&frompg=Electronics Thats about 8.5k in this ad.

Vista Home Basic - *shopping.rediff.com/shop/productdi...rrfnbr=10266556&menbr=38477&frompg=vista home Thats another 5k + and not to mention the limitations . Doesn't this thing only allow three apps to run simultaneously.

Why not the free copy of ZoneAlarm or Comodo? Why go to waste money on a firewall?

No offense but personally if you were going to go the legal way then purchasing Office <insert version here> would make you look foolish. I'd rather use OpenOffice.org.

Prices wrong buddy... Don't buy @ rediff. Get it directly from the official MS online reseller in India.

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Office 2007 Home & Student < 5000 bucks

Vista Home Premium 32 bit < 6000 bucks.

Shop online @ ad link removed

If you can't afford that and don't have a high-end PC and don't play games, use Ubuntu Linux.

Great OS, very user friendly

 

[FilledVoid]

Office 2007 Home & Student < 5000 bucks

Vista Home Premium 32 bit < 6000 bucks.

I don't use any Microsoft Products now. I do have a Windows XP license though. As I said if I were in a situation where Id have to pay for using any of the Microsoft products now then my decision would still be Open Source alternatives. your prices quote at least 10k. With that 10k I could upgrade my CPU to something awesome and at the same time accomplish everything that I would want to do with
Windows or its other products.

If you can't afford that and don't have a high-end PC and don't play games, use Ubuntu Linux.

You make me laugh at the above statement. Check out kalpiks system or how much hitboxx games and then come back.

Anyway this thread isn't between Windows / Linux. Its whether you use Pirated software. The above poll doesn't even have Open Source alternatives.

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

lol,he is saying people who have high end systems and who play games should not use ubuntu\linux,whata ignorant noob!