Call of Duty : Ghosts

vickybat

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Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

Here's what I honestly think. That piece of line, is possibly the dumbest thing I heard on this forum, not the kind of thing people would generally expect from you. You either genuinely don't understand what's going on in the scene, or just trolling. There's sun, and there are the rays, they're not in the opposite directions...how in the god's world can they be opposite in the soldier's perspective? :|

They actually aren't and i don't think there's anything dumb about it. Go back to that panoramic photo of anti C rays. Imagine standing on the right most side, behind the first ray and looking straight at the sun. Won't that first ray appear to be on your left? It isn't that hard to imagine.
 

cyborg47

Technomancer
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

from the top view.

*sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/945424_4919573107616_1030491382_n.jpg


So basically, if you think IW actually had balls to pointlessly apply the AntiC rays phenomenon, the sun is supposed to be on the complete right in the video, in fact, we won't even see the sun except for its rays. And even if that's the case, the AntiC won't even apply coz in the video, its not sunrise or sunset for the rays to appear on the other side.
 
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vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

^^ That isn't how its pictured in the video. I was looking at it again.
It was similar with that panoramic photo rather than this. The photo actually makes sense with the game.

Well in the game, the sun was not completely up. It was midway in the horizon. You cannot rule out a sunrise in that case.
 

cyborg47

Technomancer
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

^^ That isn't how its pictured in the video. I was looking at it again.
It was similar with that panoramic photo rather than this.

Get your eyes checked :)

Again, its not even sunset or sunrise, the AntiC phenomenon shouldn't be possible right?

Well in the game, the sun was not completely up. It was midway in the horizon. You cannot rule out a sunrise in that case.

Nope, the sun has to be close to the horizon. And midway, is NOT the horizon or close to the horizon. Its way too high to create any extra rays in the opposite direction or sideways.
 
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Nerevarine

Nerevarine

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Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

LOL, the game hasnt even been released yet and this guy is arguing about the sun effects.. You havent even seen what the actual game looks like and you are passing your judgement..
If you dont want to play this, or just hate it anyway, why are you even in this thread ? To Troll other players ?
Real mature dude, Really mature

The point is, Infinity Ward isn't NASA, and they cannot and need not afford to go so deep with optics science just for a video game,

You think Game Development is a piece of cake, dont you ? :p That they would even attempt making such a game without even the basic concepts of optics, i.e. godrays and such..
You think they are soo pathetic that a regular user can point out mistakes from a youtube video that they couldn't even solve in their entire game development time
 
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cyborg47

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Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

You think Game Development is a piece of cake, dont you ? :p That they would even attempt making such a game without even the basic concepts of optics, i.e. godrays and such..
You think they are soo pathetic that a regular user can point out mistakes from a youtube video that they couldn't even solve in their entire game development time

You don't have to get personal, but if you really want to, then yeah, I do have a little bit of experience with this stuff. Game developers do this all the time, faking lights and stuff. In fact, the famous doom 3 had an extremely odd lighting, the shadows change according to the camera, pure fakery, so its not uncommon. But this is 2013, studios like Crytek are boasting about tech like Global Illumination, and IW is still stuck with old age tricks(seriously, and they're the makers of the biggest game in the world), not that its wrong, but when they boast about it like its rocket science, somebody has to question them right? and its not even about solving something, its clear their tech is limited, they're not even interested in making it better, an underdog like Bohemia Interactive can afford to improve their engine so much, but the makers of the biggest game in the world are not.

Okay here's the deal, prove me that those fake lights were placed deliberately for a good reason, I'd buy the game and show you a picture of it.

LOL, the game hasnt even been released yet and this guy is arguing about the sun effects.. You havent even seen what the actual game looks like and you are passing your judgement..

At least we discussed it a bit, lol. Come back with something better to say :)
And what's the point of the entire tech showcase then? for the sheep who yay for everything?

If you dont want to play this, or just hate it anyway, why are you even in this thread ? To Troll other players ?
Real mature dude, Really mature

Actually, I was interested when I saw those head renders, thought it might be a new engine, was excited a little. But then the xbox one debacle happened, and you know the rest :p
 
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Extreme Gamer

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Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

Cyborg47 has made his point. It is quite obvious that the light is coming from a second lamp. No developer will make a sun so big that the light could potentially come from that angle.

If nasa had nothing to do with optics, then how do they capture such beautiful imagery in space? Obviously the Hubble space telescope is not a nasa venture :?

LOL, the game hasnt even been released yet and this guy is arguing about the sun effects.. You havent even seen what the actual game looks like and you are passing your judgement..
If you dont want to play this, or just hate it anyway, why are you even in this thread ? To Troll other players ?
Real mature dude, Really mature



You think Game Development is a piece of cake, dont you ? :p That they would even attempt making such a game without even the basic concepts of optics, i.e. godrays and such..
You think they are soo pathetic that a regular user can point out mistakes from a youtube video that they couldn't even solve in their entire game development time

Game development is no piece of cake. Read my post about the sun above. According to a friend, many movies use such shortcuts in some scenes. He showed me that the 2009 star trek had excessive lens flare inside the enterprise.

But what you say about IW is correct. They indeed are that lazy. Haven't you heard of making a mistake? Appealing to authority wont work, mate.
 
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vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

Cyborg, nerevarine, chill out guys. Its just a game. :p

Thanks to COD we actually got know a lot about crepuscular and anti-crepuscular rays. :p

On a serious note, those rays are indeed a fake or its a glitch. Maybe in the final render, they fix it or maybe take the sun away.
We have to wait and see if this same problem replicates itself in the final product.

Actually i was a bit busy these days so didn't bother to look into the web that much. News regarding this fake lighting system is flooded everywhere, with several criticism from people pointing at IW
for glorifying their tech.

Official Call of Duty: Ghosts Trailer Reveals A ‘Fake’ Lighting System | DSOGaming | The Dark Side Of Gaming

"epic" lighting - Call of Duty: Ghosts - Neoseeker Forums
 

cyborg47

Technomancer
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

ahh..good to see you coming to a conclusion :)

or who knows, there could be a giant metallic ufo on the left and its reflecting the sun rays. The aliens are the real enemy to be revealed at the end :p
 

Extreme Gamer

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Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

Cyborg, nerevarine, chill out guys. Its just a game. :p

Thanks to COD we actually got know a lot about crepuscular and anti-crepuscular rays. :p

On a serious note, those rays are indeed a fake or its a glitch. Maybe in the final render, they fix it or maybe take the sun away.
We have to wait and see if this same problem replicates itself in the final product.

Actually i was a bit busy these days so didn't bother to look into the web that much. News regarding this fake lighting system is flooded everywhere, with several criticism from people pointing at IW
for glorifying their tech.

Official Call of Duty: Ghosts Trailer Reveals A ‘Fake’ Lighting System | DSOGaming | The Dark Side Of Gaming

"epic" lighting - Call of Duty: Ghosts - Neoseeker Forums

Finally when the press states that, you agree...

But we can't chill out. A big franchise like this rakes in too much money (and costs too much) for us to do that. Give us our money's worth and we just might.

ahh..good to see you coming to a conclusion :)

or who knows, there could be a giant metallic ufo on the left and its reflecting the sun rays. The aliens are the real enemy to be revealed at the end :p

Or maybe a giant angler fish inside a large pressurized water tank :D
 

gagan_kumar

Wise Old Owl
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

LOL, the game hasnt even been released yet and this guy is arguing about the sun effects.. You havent even seen what the actual game looks like and you are passing your judgement..
If you dont want to play this, or just hate it anyway, why are you even in this thread ? To Troll other players ?
Real mature dude, Really mature



You think Game Development is a piece of cake, dont you ? :p That they would even attempt making such a game without even the basic concepts of optics, i.e. godrays and such..
You think they are soo pathetic that a regular user can point out mistakes from a youtube video that they couldn't even solve in their entire game development time
these guys are real gamers they want even the minute aspect of their games to be correct lol......
 

Extreme Gamer

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Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

these guys are real gamers they want even the minute aspect of their games to be correct lol......

So you don't mind when your brain detects something that looks out of place?

Wouldn't it be odd if a river flowed from the delta to the tributaries? After all you can always program your code to be that way (good option in a mind**** game).
 

cyborg47

Technomancer
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

Wouldn't it be odd if a river flowed from the delta to the tributaries? After all you can always program your code to be that way (good option in a mind**** game).

Hey, the developers aren't that dumb, you think game development is a piece of cake? /s :p
 

Extreme Gamer

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Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

Hey, the developers aren't that dumb, you think game development is a piece of cake? /s :p

Well a more suitable example would probably be debris floating against the tide of the river :p

But it is a good option for a mind**** game dont you think? CoD would be mind**** if the rays were coming from one place while the sun was in another place.
 

gagan_kumar

Wise Old Owl
Re: Call of Duty : Ghosts announced

i thought the purpose of the thread like the others was to promote the game lol........
 
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