Need Multitasking rig at 75k
shayem
In the zone
totally. Posted that cz if he can manage 1k extra money he can get that.EDIT:
I thought he decided for Elite430. that's why that suggestion. Now I see it's not 430 it's 690
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
I am checking out cabbies , mouse , kb on d net , would post a final config here , and give printouts to local dealers to c if dey can arrange.. Or gng lamington road arnd 15th june
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
well i m back at the thread coz just 5-6 days to go
I mailed primeabgb and got similar prices , they dont have the GPU though
I am trying to get the config locally here ( just a try
)
Help me in the following:
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 :-
1. Solid built.
2. Backlighting.
Arctosa :-
1. Cheaper feeling (i read some forums, saying Arctosa uses cheaper materials compared to Lycosa).
2. No backlighting.
Looks wise both r same , i type a hell lot , what shud b preferred ? i heard arctosa has shallow keys like notebook . give ur views
Mouse:
Logitech MX518 vs Deathadder vs Cm storm spawn
personal opinion after looking at google images : are the mouse suitable only for gaming or are multipurpose , i felt there would be palm problems on those , they seem in a lil weird to me. i am currently using a HP wireless mouse ( 2 button with scroll ) which is long and simple ( basic mouse shape )
I have to do lot of photoshop work using mouse plus apart from gaming i have lots of other uses as described in post1 , so shud i go out of these 3 only ?
EDIT:
Well the 518 seems very decent on the official site , i am currently using that kinda mouse.
I mailed primeabgb and got similar prices , they dont have the GPU though
I am trying to get the config locally here ( just a try
)Help me in the following:
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 :-
1. Solid built.
2. Backlighting.
Arctosa :-
1. Cheaper feeling (i read some forums, saying Arctosa uses cheaper materials compared to Lycosa).
2. No backlighting.
Looks wise both r same , i type a hell lot , what shud b preferred ? i heard arctosa has shallow keys like notebook . give ur views
Mouse:
Logitech MX518 vs Deathadder vs Cm storm spawn
personal opinion after looking at google images : are the mouse suitable only for gaming or are multipurpose , i felt there would be palm problems on those , they seem in a lil weird to me. i am currently using a HP wireless mouse ( 2 button with scroll ) which is long and simple ( basic mouse shape )
I have to do lot of photoshop work using mouse plus apart from gaming i have lots of other uses as described in post1 , so shud i go out of these 3 only ?
EDIT:
Well the 518 seems very decent on the official site , i am currently using that kinda mouse.
Sarath
iDota
For a monitor I would like to suggest the Dell U2311H. Its a 23" IPS panel which will suit you well for your designing needs.
Price: 14500 INR
I know you have limitation on your table but I cannot really calculate the footprint and stuff.
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As for KB mouse take a look at Razer Cyclosa bundle @ INR 2000
or get a good mouse as a priority for your designing need.
All 3 mice you have looked at are good. Its your personal preference. Logitech generally offers a 3 year warranty which should give you some relief.
I took a razer one just for the looks w/ 1yr warranty
CM spawn: not much idea
KB:
Sidewinder X4 gets more preference than the Arctosa.
Arctosa uses cheaper materials. Maybe. Lycosa costs 3.8k and the Arctosa 2k. so yeah more expensive materials go into the lycosa (backlighting is another plus).
I have ordered for an Arctosa and am awaiting delivery. I read many reviews about it and finally decided its a fine choice.
The Mic. Sidewinder is equally good.
Price: 14500 INR
I know you have limitation on your table but I cannot really calculate the footprint and stuff.
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As for KB mouse take a look at Razer Cyclosa bundle @ INR 2000
or get a good mouse as a priority for your designing need.
All 3 mice you have looked at are good. Its your personal preference. Logitech generally offers a 3 year warranty which should give you some relief.
I took a razer one just for the looks w/ 1yr warranty
CM spawn: not much idea
KB:
Sidewinder X4 gets more preference than the Arctosa.
Arctosa uses cheaper materials. Maybe. Lycosa costs 3.8k and the Arctosa 2k. so yeah more expensive materials go into the lycosa (backlighting is another plus).
I have ordered for an Arctosa and am awaiting delivery. I read many reviews about it and finally decided its a fine choice.
The Mic. Sidewinder is equally good.
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
Well out of these i am settling with microsoft sidewinder for my kb.
I am still researchin on mouse. I m used to full grip as in large grip. My palm shud rest on d mouse and not on d mouse pad..
@sarath.
thnx for suggestion.
Wats better dell stl 220l or d one u suggested ?
any spcl advantage that it will giv me in ma job ??
@ if some component is making a impactful difference i can go plus minus 2-3k (only if extremely necessary.. Coz i hav to add up my trip expenses and vat too in d budget )
I am still researchin on mouse. I m used to full grip as in large grip. My palm shud rest on d mouse and not on d mouse pad..
@sarath.
thnx for suggestion.
Wats better dell stl 220l or d one u suggested ?
any spcl advantage that it will giv me in ma job ??
@ if some component is making a impactful difference i can go plus minus 2-3k (only if extremely necessary.. Coz i hav to add up my trip expenses and vat too in d budget
)
Sarath
iDota
Just google IPS vs TN.
In short IPS means better colour gamut (reproduction) and contrast. But has slower response time (8ms)
Check this thread for discussion between a Dell IPS and a Samsung TN panel.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/tvs-monitors/141518-dell-ultrasharp-u2311h-samsung-px2370.html
In short IPS means better colour gamut (reproduction) and contrast. But has slower response time (8ms)
Check this thread for discussion between a Dell IPS and a Samsung TN panel.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/tvs-monitors/141518-dell-ultrasharp-u2311h-samsung-px2370.html
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
Saw d thread , as well as d dimensions.
it says 46cm without compression and 36cm with compression..
can u explain that ?
i cnt go beyond 41cm in height !!
Moreover ,
Un noticeable gaming lag = i dnt mind
Angles = idc , i work right in frnt of it
looks , well it matters for me a lil for big screen and i find it way too simple
plus lil tight on budget..
Well dats wat i concluded after 15min research , bt as u personally own it , plz tell me some impactful pro's dat wud help me decide . Thnx
it says 46cm without compression and 36cm with compression..
can u explain that ?
i cnt go beyond 41cm in height !!
Moreover ,
Un noticeable gaming lag = i dnt mind
Angles = idc , i work right in frnt of it
looks , well it matters for me a lil for big screen and i find it way too simple
plus lil tight on budget..
Well dats wat i concluded after 15min research , bt as u personally own it , plz tell me some impactful pro's dat wud help me decide . Thnx
Sarath
iDota
I guess the query was about the monitor:
The Dell U2311H is a good monitor. But is that a reason enough for me to convince you to get it. Well, yes and no.
Let me tell you how I decided upon it:
My initial budget was 10k for a superb gaming monitor a 21"-23" 2ms-5ms lag free one. I found many such monitors for that price point. Starting with 7.5k.
Now I went through many reviews online and suddenly decided to get an IPS monitor. I increased the budget to 15k just because I never had a fixed budget in the first place.
Plus many positive reviews (here and mostly tomshardware.com) led me to buy this one finally. Let me tell you, not once did I think about if it was value for money or not. So I still don't know if jumping from 8000 to 15000 was justified. which is a lot of money.
I told you all this just to let you know along with the details of the monitor itself, what kind of a person is giving you the opinion.
Now about the monitor:
~The monitor is huge. I cannot even give you a rough estimate but it is tall. Almost squarish if you look at it afar. It feels more than 40cms vertically and horizontally.
~The Panel: The picture is just awesome. The colours are vibrant, warm and very natural. I did a side by side comparison of a TN and IPS today and found that the TN felt like it was washed out/ showed faded colours. Let me tell you, you wont notice it immediately. And also a side by side comparison doesnt really matter in real life.
However if you really want a panel which can show good colours and play games well too get this. Movies are just splendid. For me an affordable gaming capable IPS tech panel was a win win situation.
~The Looks: Boring. Not very boring but yes definitely looks plain and boring. The bezel is just a standard black 1.5cm strip on all sides. Samsung ones and also Benq ones I saw looked much much better. They are shiny and have some designing aspect to it but the dell one is as basic as it can get. [I am talking about the looks of the monitor here not the screen]
~Connectivity: Has VGA, DVI and Display Port. 2 USB ports also. BUT NO HDMI. Almost every other monitor has HDMI but this doesnt.
If you are looking for a monitor for around 8k then you get very good monitors for that price in sizes of 22". In such a case I would suggest "against" simply spending extra for another inch and a IPS panel.
To sum it up. If you are indeed tight on budget then skip this monitor. Get a nice sub 9k monitor. The 5k premium is something I cannot justify. Almost everyone uses a TN+film monitor and it serves well.
However if you were shopping for a monitor and had a budget of around 15k then I would have lobbied for this Dell monitor. Because IPS is an upgrade from TN and if you miss it at such an affordable price point then it isnt a wise thing to do.
I say 15k is affordable not because I have loads of cash but because every other IPS monitor has always retailed for 25k or more. Since everyone has a budget of around 10k inc me most people dont even consider IPS panels. But this one was different. It has its share of sacrifices but I am the kind of person who actually like it to be plain (less distracting [personal opinion]) so I immediately made the jump.
Get a nice Dell/ Samsung/ Benq LED monitor for 8-9k according to your budget.
P.S. I dont have a mouse so I cant maneuverer so well; i might be repeating my words and also must have typed a lot. I will edit it tomorrow if I can. Hope it helps.
Oh forgot to mention. I myself dont know what was that compression you were talking about. :-/
The Dell U2311H is a good monitor. But is that a reason enough for me to convince you to get it. Well, yes and no.
Let me tell you how I decided upon it:
My initial budget was 10k for a superb gaming monitor a 21"-23" 2ms-5ms lag free one. I found many such monitors for that price point. Starting with 7.5k.
Now I went through many reviews online and suddenly decided to get an IPS monitor. I increased the budget to 15k just because I never had a fixed budget in the first place.
Plus many positive reviews (here and mostly tomshardware.com) led me to buy this one finally. Let me tell you, not once did I think about if it was value for money or not. So I still don't know if jumping from 8000 to 15000 was justified. which is a lot of money.
I told you all this just to let you know along with the details of the monitor itself, what kind of a person is giving you the opinion.
Now about the monitor:
~The monitor is huge. I cannot even give you a rough estimate but it is tall. Almost squarish if you look at it afar. It feels more than 40cms vertically and horizontally.
~The Panel: The picture is just awesome. The colours are vibrant, warm and very natural. I did a side by side comparison of a TN and IPS today and found that the TN felt like it was washed out/ showed faded colours. Let me tell you, you wont notice it immediately. And also a side by side comparison doesnt really matter in real life.
However if you really want a panel which can show good colours and play games well too get this. Movies are just splendid. For me an affordable gaming capable IPS tech panel was a win win situation.
~The Looks: Boring. Not very boring but yes definitely looks plain and boring. The bezel is just a standard black 1.5cm strip on all sides. Samsung ones and also Benq ones I saw looked much much better. They are shiny and have some designing aspect to it but the dell one is as basic as it can get. [I am talking about the looks of the monitor here not the screen]
~Connectivity: Has VGA, DVI and Display Port. 2 USB ports also. BUT NO HDMI. Almost every other monitor has HDMI but this doesnt.
If you are looking for a monitor for around 8k then you get very good monitors for that price in sizes of 22". In such a case I would suggest "against" simply spending extra for another inch and a IPS panel.
To sum it up. If you are indeed tight on budget then skip this monitor. Get a nice sub 9k monitor. The 5k premium is something I cannot justify. Almost everyone uses a TN+film monitor and it serves well.
However if you were shopping for a monitor and had a budget of around 15k then I would have lobbied for this Dell monitor. Because IPS is an upgrade from TN and if you miss it at such an affordable price point then it isnt a wise thing to do.
I say 15k is affordable not because I have loads of cash but because every other IPS monitor has always retailed for 25k or more. Since everyone has a budget of around 10k inc me most people dont even consider IPS panels. But this one was different. It has its share of sacrifices but I am the kind of person who actually like it to be plain (less distracting [personal opinion]) so I immediately made the jump.
Get a nice Dell/ Samsung/ Benq LED monitor for 8-9k according to your budget.
P.S. I dont have a mouse so I cant maneuverer so well; i might be repeating my words and also must have typed a lot. I will edit it tomorrow if I can. Hope it helps.
Oh forgot to mention. I myself dont know what was that compression you were talking about. :-/
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
I need help with Mouse & Kb.. I need a wireless mouse if possible. My views :
MX513: the images looked weird to me , the top surface dents , god knws y it is made so
Deathadder: Hmm nice , but wired
Logitech Performance MX : just perfect as i want.. overbudget but i will manage.. please give some reviews. it says we can use the mouse even while chargin , so when the battery runs out , i can just plug in the cable and use as a wired mouse.. gr88 !! , morevoer if searched in google for BEST MOUSE FOR DESIGNERS .. this comes d most number of times.. please have a look at it and let me know shud i go with it ?
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Keyboard : i decided X4 over Arctosa bt Google images show it as a simple KB , nothing exclusive.. shud i still go with it or any other recommendations ? I DONT MIND A WIRED KB.
Main Use:
Lots of typing ( smooth , deep buttons , dnt want a lappy type kb )
Gaming is jus 5% of my PC usage
So help me out with these
Final config as of now
Processor : i7 - 2600 K Rs.16000/-
Mb: Asus P8Z68-V PRO Rs.13500/-
RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL 2600/-
Graphic Card MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II/OC 15000/-
HDD Seagate 1TB 7200.12 2700/-
DVD writer LG 22X SATA DVD 900/-
PSU Corsair GS700 5000/-
Case CM Elite 430 2500/-
Monitor Benq G2220HD 7200/-
( Thinking of 24" FULL HD here )
Mouse Razer Deathadder 2000/-
Logitech MX Performance 4500/-
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 1500/-
Speakers Altec Lansing VS2621 1500/-
Hows that ??
I am open to suggestions , i m consfused in mouse , kb mainly and have second thoughts for a bigger monitor.
lets end this quick !!
Thanks to everyone
MX513: the images looked weird to me , the top surface dents , god knws y it is made so
Deathadder: Hmm nice , but wired
Logitech Performance MX : just perfect as i want.. overbudget but i will manage.. please give some reviews. it says we can use the mouse even while chargin , so when the battery runs out , i can just plug in the cable and use as a wired mouse.. gr88 !! , morevoer if searched in google for BEST MOUSE FOR DESIGNERS .. this comes d most number of times.. please have a look at it and let me know shud i go with it ?
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Keyboard : i decided X4 over Arctosa bt Google images show it as a simple KB , nothing exclusive.. shud i still go with it or any other recommendations ? I DONT MIND A WIRED KB.
Main Use:
Lots of typing ( smooth , deep buttons , dnt want a lappy type kb )
Gaming is jus 5% of my PC usage
So help me out with these
Final config as of now
Processor : i7 - 2600 K Rs.16000/-
Mb: Asus P8Z68-V PRO Rs.13500/-
RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL 2600/-
Graphic Card MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II/OC 15000/-
HDD Seagate 1TB 7200.12 2700/-
DVD writer LG 22X SATA DVD 900/-
PSU Corsair GS700 5000/-
Case CM Elite 430 2500/-
Monitor Benq G2220HD 7200/-
( Thinking of 24" FULL HD here )
Mouse Razer Deathadder 2000/-
Logitech MX Performance 4500/-
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 1500/-
Speakers Altec Lansing VS2621 1500/-
Hows that ??I am open to suggestions , i m consfused in mouse , kb mainly and have second thoughts for a bigger monitor.
lets end this quick !!
Thanks to everyone
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Sarath
iDota
What did you decide about the monitor? 
Get wired mouse. Why wireless? Too much of a hassle with battery changes etc.
MX513 doesnt have dents its an optical illusion of the surface design.
But if you want wireless then there your 3rd choice seems to be good for you.
[I have 3 mice: Microsoft 400bucks, logitech (wireless) 1500/- and a Razer Imperator 3200/-(best so far)]
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Buth arctosa and X4 have lappy type key presses. You might want to look at mechanical keyboards in such a case.
There are many good ones starting from INR 800 to 2000.
Get wired mouse. Why wireless? Too much of a hassle with battery changes etc.
MX513 doesnt have dents its an optical illusion of the surface design.
But if you want wireless then there your 3rd choice seems to be good for you.
[I have 3 mice: Microsoft 400bucks, logitech (wireless) 1500/- and a Razer Imperator 3200/-(best so far)]
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Buth arctosa and X4 have lappy type key presses. You might want to look at mechanical keyboards in such a case.
There are many good ones starting from INR 800 to 2000.
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
Thanks sarath.. well monitor is going out of budget , i have editted my post and posted my final config. thats a 22" benq HD monitor i m second thoughts for a 24" once coz its not everytime u upgrade a monitor !!
i want wireless coz i am used to it and whenever i watch movies , i sit back with my mouse to control d pc ..
even X4 has shallow keys ?? i read that X4 is fine but arctosa has shallow keys , so i went with X4 .. suggest me a few KB guyz
Also comment on final config , update me with price changes if any !!
i will be buying from Primeabgb mainly , recommend a few reputated stores at lamington road
i want wireless coz i am used to it and whenever i watch movies , i sit back with my mouse to control d pc ..
even X4 has shallow keys ?? i read that X4 is fine but arctosa has shallow keys , so i went with X4 .. suggest me a few KB guyz
Also comment on final config , update me with price changes if any !!
i will be buying from Primeabgb mainly , recommend a few reputated stores at lamington road
thetechfreak
Legend Never Ends
Perfect final config. Go for your task. The Benq monitor is great. Wont dissapoint.
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
Thnx..
Mouse , Kb confusion ?? morevoer that Logitech MX is costing around 6700 on Primeabgb.. lol !!
i saw some similar threads in TDF , building rigs from 45 to 55 K range , they have similar configs to mine . My proccy and MB r better adding up 7-8 K , rest r similar , i m getting beaten up in Mouse , Kb and PSU..
Do i need 700W PSU ? ( Y so ? this is for knowledge purpose !! )
Mouse , Kb confusion ?? morevoer that Logitech MX is costing around 6700 on Primeabgb.. lol !!
i saw some similar threads in TDF , building rigs from 45 to 55 K range , they have similar configs to mine . My proccy and MB r better adding up 7-8 K , rest r similar , i m getting beaten up in Mouse , Kb and PSU..
Do i need 700W PSU ? ( Y so ? this is for knowledge purpose !!
)
vickybat
I am the night...I am...
^^ Get a corsair Tx 650-v2 @ 5.2k or tx 750-v2 @ 6k instead of a Gs700. They are build like a tank, 80+ bronze (efficiency matters for a high end rig) & offers 5 years warranty.
Get the tx series at all costs instead of the gs series. You can crossfire 6950 later easily wiwth these psu's and get good efficiency leading to lesser electricity bills.
Get the logitech z 523 instead of the vs 2621.
Get the tx series at all costs instead of the gs series. You can crossfire 6950 later easily wiwth these psu's and get good efficiency leading to lesser electricity bills.
Get the logitech z 523 instead of the vs 2621.
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techking_dinesh
Digit Squad Member
^ is Tx650 sufficent for future crossfires ?
Speakers logitech Z523 cost ? i saw them around 100$ on official site , too out of budget !!!
Speakers logitech Z523 cost ? i saw them around 100$ on official site , too out of budget !!!
Sarath
iDota
My mouse, KB and monitor come upto 3200+2200+15000=24000. You see my final config took a hit due to this. But I am happy as I the input and output is what we interact with and I didnt want to compromise on it.
Decide upon yourself.
If I had gone for a decent mouse-KB combo for maybe 800-1000 I would have saved 4000. I could have jumped to i7 from an i5.
Its your personal preference.
Go with the PSU suggestion by Vickybat
Also where is your final config? I cant see it in your first post
Decide upon yourself.
If I had gone for a decent mouse-KB combo for maybe 800-1000 I would have saved 4000. I could have jumped to i7 from an i5.
Its your personal preference.
Go with the PSU suggestion by Vickybat
Also where is your final config? I cant see it in your first post
thetechfreak
Legend Never Ends
@Sarath
Final config is mentioned in post #51
Final config is mentioned in post #51
Jaskanwar Singh
Aspiring Novelist
I need help with Mouse & Kb.. I need a wireless mouse if possible. My views :
MX513: the images looked weird to me , the top surface dents , god knws y it is made so
Deathadder: Hmm nice , but wired
Logitech Performance MX : just perfect as i want.. overbudget but i will manage.. please give some reviews. it says we can use the mouse even while chargin , so when the battery runs out , i can just plug in the cable and use as a wired mouse.. gr88 !! , morevoer if searched in google for BEST MOUSE FOR DESIGNERS .. this comes d most number of times.. please have a look at it and let me know shud i go with it ?
================
Keyboard : i decided X4 over Arctosa bt Google images show it as a simple KB , nothing exclusive.. shud i still go with it or any other recommendations ? I DONT MIND A WIRED KB.
Main Use:
Lots of typing ( smooth , deep buttons , dnt want a lappy type kb )
Gaming is jus 5% of my PC usage
So help me out with these
Final config as of now
Processor : i7 - 2600 K Rs.16000/-
Mb: Asus P8Z68-V PRO Rs.13500/-
RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL 2600/-
Graphic Card MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II/OC 15000/-
HDD Seagate 1TB 7200.12 2700/-
DVD writer LG 22X SATA DVD 900/-
PSU Corsair GS700 5000/-
Case CM Elite 430 2500/-
Monitor Benq G2220HD 7200/-
( Thinking of 24" FULL HD here )
Mouse Razer Deathadder 2000/-
Logitech MX Performance 4500/-
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 1500/-
Speakers Altec Lansing VS2621 1500/-
I am open to suggestions , i m consfused in mouse , kb mainly and have second thoughts for a bigger monitor.
lets end this quick !!
Thanks to everyone
change mobo to ASUS P8Z68 V @ 12k~ and get Corsair TX750 V2 @ 6.3k.
unless you are a cable management expert i suggest you to get something better a cabby for crossfire. Lian Li Lancool K58W @ 4.3k