Why not in India?

[skeletor]

They forced that mentality on us and new generation of indians grew up with these idea without knowing where these ideas came from...

And this effect will take another 50 years to ward off.

I wrote a lot of things in the Cricket WC thread about us being flawed at the three levels related to Sport - government, people and media.

Same is the case with our education system.

Lack of good colleges, lack of research facilities and research not being promoted.

Then we all can read posts of people cracking jokes about their CS professors in the particular thread of this forum. If you'll ask those people to replace the job of their teacher, they won't be ready to do that. Why? Social mentality. I've talked about this with a lot of my friends, they'll never take the profession of teaching as they say. But will still giggle on their teachers' incompetence.

Another example you can take is about Nuclear power. Now Japan is facing troubles with their reactors and some Indian people go like..."agar japan ka ye haal huya..toh humaara kya hoga!!" Surely we have to learn a lesson, but deeming ourselves inferior is not the way to go.

 

[meh]

And this effect will take another 50 years to ward off.

I wrote a lot of things in the Cricket WC thread about us being flawed at the three levels related to Sport - government, people and media.

Same is the case with our education system.

Lack of good colleges, lack of research facilities and research not being promoted.

Then we all can read posts of people cracking jokes about their CS professors in the particular thread of this forum. If you'll ask those people to replace the job of their teacher, they won't be ready to do that. Why? Social mentality. I've talked about this with a lot of my friends, they'll never take the profession of teaching as they say. But will still giggle on their teachers' incompetence.

Another example you can take is about Nuclear power. Now Japan is facing troubles with their reactors and some Indian people go like..."agar japan ka ye haal huya..toh humaara kya hoga!!" Surely we have to learn a lesson, but deeming ourselves inferior is not the way to go.

I always liked your thought process gagan

 

[skeletor]

now how do you know my name?

 

[Faun]

I always liked your thought process gagan

lol

I heard they are creating some sci fi city near bengaluru. Good to see the future...brb.

 

[skeletor]

I agree with most parts of your post, but you need to do your home work before talking on the following points:

What about their weapons and ICBMS?

What about us? Our weapons and Russia, rings a bell? Our jets? All imported technology. .... C'mon, what is it (technologically and intellectually speaking) that prevents us from doing an indigenous .... Jets, Weapons et al? Why do we always need foreign involvement at some level?

And honestly speaking, we've got better quality of planes in the Air Force compared to the Chinese. Our Sukhoi Su-30MKI can kick PLAAF's arse. So can our ICBMs and missiles and they are 'ingeniously' developed. BrahMos has been developed jointly with Russia though.

Heck, you'll be surprised to know that the Japanese are also producing American licensed fighter planes just like HAL produces Russian licensed planes.

For the lulz:
[youtube]yBjggJgiEP8[/youtube] Original news on Chinese TV
Chinese J-10 demo

PS: My uncle buys arms for the country at the moment.

What about the TSMC wafers being done in Taiwan? Taiwan? Out of all places?

I'll agree with this. India lacks a semi-conductor company bigtime. Something about which I crib every day while talking to my friends. The government needs to be aggressive in terms of economic growth.

 

[Krow]

We do have such stations here in Chennai.

*chennaicity.blog.co.in/files/2008/09/tirumailai_mrts_station_chennai_madras.jpg
*i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/slakhs/DSCN1948.jpg


But nowadays they are really dirty, are maintained very badly and of course are a complete mess in the monsoons.

communism FTW

really
communism is the only solution if WE the people dont understand the importance of our rights and duties

Errr... how? Name one nation that has successfully implemented communism. AFAIK, all those who tried have either become dictatorial regimes or switched to democracy. Communism is no solution. It is best for intellectuals who have nothing better to do than dream of utopia.

 

[gagan007]

@Krow, so true man. I wish I could rep you for that post of yours

Naah I am kidding

When I came to bangalore, I saw Cross and Main format in organizing colonies.I mean its is like a mesh/matrix in which one set of parallel lines are mains and other set is cross. My younger bro studies in Singapore and he told me that same for at exists there also.

I was surprised to know that Singapore was planned keeping B'lore as model city. I do not have any evidence but an old retired armyman uncle living across the street told me this.

It is another thing that traffic in this city is a mess, all because of people like me flooding it day by day. Government should encourage companies to setup in different cities rather than concentrating in one city alone.

 

[Piyush]

Errr... how? Name one nation that has successfully implemented communism. AFAIK, all those who tried have either become dictatorial regimes or switched to democracy. Communism is no solution. It is best for intellectuals who have nothing better to do than dream of utopia.

err...russia, china....and yes no other country in my list as for now

 

[skeletor]

It is another thing that traffic in this city is a mess, all because of people like me flooding it day by day. Government should encourage companies to setup in different cities rather than concentrating in one city alone.

What government should give is 10x better public transport so that people don't have to rely on their own personal transport. In addition to this, the government should also put restriction on "one man-one car" driving in cities. All you need is 15 Tata Safaris with 1 man each to cause a traffic jam. Petrol is already touching 60 now. Lastly, get rid of car credit/loans. Too many cars already.

 

[Liverpool_fan]

We do have such stations here in Chennai.

*chennaicity.blog.co.in/files/2008/09/tirumailai_mrts_station_chennai_madras.jpg
*i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/slakhs/DSCN1948.jpg


But nowadays they are really dirty, are maintained very badly and of course are a complete mess in the monsoons.

Delhi Metro is 10x better and is still well maintained. It's not quite as glamarous as Japanese/Korean counterparts but still pretty good, particularly for the price communters pay. Only problem is overcrowding but Delhi is an overpopulated City in itself.

Errr... how? Name one nation that has successfully implemented communism. AFAIK, all those who tried have either become dictatorial regimes or switched to democracy. Communism is no solution. It is best for intellectuals who have nothing better to do than dream of utopia.

Precisely put.

err...russia, china....and yes no other country in my list as for now

You mean Soviets? I am not sure they were exactly successful but whatever.

 

[SlashDK]

Do you people know what India needs? According to me a democratic dictatorship with rahul gandhi as dictator for 8 years. I know its not democratic or patriotic but its one of the best solutions to put all corrupt politicians, netas, babus and gundas in jail and improve india.

 

[Krow]

It is another thing that traffic in this city is a mess, all because of people like me flooding it day by day. Government should encourage companies to setup in different cities rather than concentrating in one city alone.

I don't agree. The government should encourage people to use public transport. That is a better solution to curb traffic imho.

err...russia, china....and yes no other country in my list as for now

Russia was one of the most oppressive dictatorial regimes in the Soviet era. No, it wasn't even successful in implementing socialism, forget communism. No one has a voice (freedom of speech) in China even today. How is that a successful communist state? All people are supposed to be equal, but as George Orwell put it:

Some people are more equal than others

Piyush, I really recommend that you read Geroge Orwell's Animal Farm. It is a small (~100 pages) book, but a must read for anyone to understand what happened in Soviet Russia, during the so-called communist era. Oh yeah, it is fiction, so easy to read as well.

What government should give is 10x better public transport so that people don't have to rely on their own personal transport. In addition to this, the government should also put restriction on "one man-one car" driving in cities. All you need is 15 Tata Safaris with 1 man each to cause a traffic jam. Petrol is already touching 60 now. Lastly, get rid of car credit/loans. Too many cars already.

Petrol has crossed 60. ~Rs 65/litre here in Chennai. I agree with you. What we need is an encouragement for public transport. Not sure how that can be achieved though.

Delhi Metro is 10x better and is still well maintained. It's not quite as glamarous as Japanese/Korean counterparts but still pretty good, particularly for the price communters pay. Only problem is overcrowding but Delhi is an overpopulated City in itself.

Mumbai locals are the best in terms of efficiency. Delhi Metro is the best in terms of maintenance of stations and crowd control. The Metro is a lifesaver for the city. Really great initiative.

Do you people know what India needs? According to me a democratic dictatorship with rahul gandhi as dictator for 8 years. I know its not democratic or patriotic but its one of the best solutions to put all corrupt politicians, netas, babus and gundas in jail and improve india.

I don't know what India needs, but it certainly does not need a dictatorship. We have so many dictatorial neighbour countries where the people are in absolute turmoil. Look at Myanmar, China, Pakistan (psuedo-military rule) and until recently, Bangladesh. All suffered heavily under a dictatorship. More than anything else, I'd be very worried if any Gandhi becomes a dictator. Indira Gandhi was a dictator during the emergency from 1975-77 and we all know we don't want that to happen again. It is an established fact that corruption as we see it in India today was given a chance to grow under the Indira Gandhi regime. Most of her cabinet was extremely corrupt.

 

[Faun]

Source: China and India: Ancient Civilizations, Rising Powers, Giant Societies, and Contrasting Models of Development: A History Institute for Teachers - FPRI

 

[R2K]

^^
wow..really.. wTH did that celebrity abt China then?

 

[NVIDIAGeek]

I reminded a good quote by a International celebrity about India "India is an interesting country which can not provide two time food to poor Indian people and still thinks about launching new satellite"

This. THIS!

 

[Liverpool_fan]

I reminded a good quote by a International celebrity about India "India is an interesting country which can not provide two time food to poor Indian people and still thinks about launching new satellite"

That "celebrity" can squarely p1ss off. Just because we have problems like poverty, etc. does that mean we should be technologically behind, behind in every respect as these so called "1st world" idiots desire us to be?
Can't believe an Indian has quoted this and called a quote like this "Good". Sheesh! Why are you sitting in front of a computer then? Get out of the computer, sell your house and remain "equals" to rest of the population. Why go to restaurants while millions of people are starving? Why spend living in luxury hotels, sleep in streets since millions of poor people end up sleeping in the foot path.

 

[R2K]

^^
absolutely...

 

[Faun]

I reminded a good quote by a International celebrity about India "India is an interesting country which can not provide two time food to poor Indian people and still thinks about launching new satellite"

Consider the jobs created due to these satellite endeavors and the revenue. ISRO is one respectable organization for me.

 

[Techn0crat]

I reminded a good quote by a International celebrity about India "India is an interesting country which can not provide two time food to poor Indian people and still thinks about launching new satellite"

Reminds me about those fagg0ts who were against computer because one computer can do 10 people's work.

 

[SlashDK]

I don't know what India needs, but it certainly does not need a dictatorship. We have so many dictatorial neighbour countries where the people are in absolute turmoil. Look at Myanmar, China, Pakistan (psuedo-military rule) and until recently, Bangladesh. All suffered heavily under a dictatorship. More than anything else, I'd be very worried if any Gandhi becomes a dictator. Indira Gandhi was a dictator during the emergency from 1975-77 and we all know we don't want that to happen again. It is an established fact that corruption as we see it in India today was given a chance to grow under the Indira Gandhi regime. Most of her cabinet was extremely corrupt.

Well perhaps i went a bit too far saying we needed a dictatorship. No party in India is Doodh ki Dhuli but the congress and BJP are still better. The coalations make the condition of corruption even worse. If Rahul Gandhi was put forward as a candidate for PM, there's a really good chance that congress won't need a coalation. And as for the emergency, it was bad but its already happened and we can't change it.