Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[mad1231moody]

I need a quick suggestion friends. Got to go tomorrow to buy the hardware. Also I want to say that the threshold is around 10-12 k.

 

[j1n M@tt]

Need a suggestion for a computer upgrade. My friend's computer went kaput. Now he wants the following parts and the price range is around 15000 Rs.
#1 Motherboard(onboard graphics preferred)
#2 Processor
#3 DDR2 RAM
He has HDD and maybe he won't change the cabinet. But then too feel free to give suggestion on cabinet too.

Phenom II X3 720BE :7.5-7.7k
Biostar TA790GXB A2+ :4.8k (or if not available get Biostar TA790GXB A2+ 128M : 5.5k)
Transcend 2x2GB 800MHz :2.4k

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Personal note : my 1,000th post

 

[mad1231moody]

Oh sorry to forget that my friend insists on Intel config. Also the budget is Rs.10-12K

 

[damngoodman999]

Oh sorry to forget that my friend insists on Intel config. Also the budget is Rs.10-12K

Intel means ONboard graphics graphics will be horrible

 

[desiibond]

Need a suggestion for a computer upgrade. My friend's computer went kaput. Now he wants the following parts and the price range is around 15000 Rs.
#1 Motherboard(onboard graphics preferred)
#2 Processor
#3 DDR2 RAM
He has HDD and maybe he won't change the cabinet. But then too feel free to give suggestion on cabinet too.

Intel C2D E7200: 5.5k
Gigabyte G31 based motherboard: 2.5k
ATI HD4670: 4.4k
Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz 2x2Gb: 3k

 

[desiibond]

Re: Suggestions for New System

Friends,
I am planning to buy a new assembled PC.
Please let me know your suggestions.
I have shortlisted a few products
Cabinet : CoolerMaster 690
SMPS: Corsair HX620 / TX 750
Processor: E8400 or a Quad Core
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EG45M-UD2H (looking for Intel G45 or later, no amd)
RAM: 2GB / 4GB (depending on price) (Transend)
Harddisk: Seagate 500GB
Monitor: Dell 2209WA
Also please give suggestions for UPS.
Thanks in advance.

hmm. AMD is giving much much more performance if you are looking at dual cores. A 5.5k Phenom II X2 550 easily competes with E8400 that costs above 8k. Moreover, 780G chipset is untouchable by any Intel onboard video chipset.
My suggestion would be this:

Cabinet : CoolerMaster 690
SMPS: Corsair HX620 / TX 750
AMD Phenom II X2 550 for 5.5k or Phenom II X4 940 for 10k
Motherboard: Gigabyte or ASUS 780G based motherboard
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz 2x2Gb RAM: 3k
Harddisk: Seagate 500GB
Monitor: Dell 2209WA
UPS: APC 800VA or 1100VA

 

[kjd_1122]

Bad experience at CHENOY TRADE CENTER

Hi all,
Went to Chenoy trade center at Hyd, to get quotes for my new system,
Half of the products are not there with 60-70 % of the shop.
Means They dont even reply for the prices of Keyboard/Mouse.

Some of them who replied with quotes, are too high. Like giving a difference 1000- 1500 rupees in the case of Graphics card. BTW I asked for Zotac GTX 275. And I got the best quote of 15K. WTF!!!

In case of Mother boards, Boards which I want, are not available. some of them are having, but with once again high prices.

Monitors, huh, One guy gave me a quote for Dell S2409W monitor, he told me 17500.
WTF!!!

Now There was only one shop who gave me some good quotes, but again, high quotes in some components. And he was also not having everything listed in my config.
Below Is my config.

Phenom II X2 550 : Given Price : 6100
Mother board : MSI 770-C35 : Not having the model.
Zotac GTX 275 : 15K
Corsair VX550W : 5700
Corsair Dominator 4 (2x2)GB (DDR2 or DDR3, I forgot) : 3800
WD 640 GB : Around 3100
cooler Master Elite 335 : 2500
Dell S2409 full HD : Not having the model
Acer H233H hull HD : Somewhat around 12.5 -13K
Logitech Wired Combo : 600
LG DVD RW : 1050
APC 1.1kv : somewhere around 4800

I also asked him about intel config, coz he was mainly dealing with Intel CPU+mobos.
He gave me following quotes
E8400 : Between 8500 to 9000
Intel Original Mobo for this (DDR3 memory) : 8750
(DDR2 memory) : 5500 approx.

And for i7 he gave me unexpected 27000. (i7 920 + intel X58 mobo)

Now what should I do? Should I go with this dealer, or should I buy online ?
My over all budget is 60K at max.

And yes one more thing,
Do not go in the shop named "Shweta Computers". At CTC.
Extremely bad reception there.
A guy told me He cant give me quotes because I am not gonna buy today. We only give quotes to those who buy their computers today itself. WTF !!! WTF !@!!!
So You give me quotes and I should not check that you have given me proper quotes or not. I should Directly buy from you. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[desiibond]

Dude. That is ridiculously high pricing. My friend bought X2 550 for 5.7k in Hyd. will check with him where he bought.

Else I think it's better if you order at itwares.

afaik, Hyderabad dealers and least friendly.

 

[kjd_1122]

Yes, indeed.
I am also thinking of ordering from ITwares .
And then will assemble the components over here with the help of some local dealer.

thanks.

 

[furious_gamer]

Intel C2D E7200: 5.5k
Gigabyte G31 based motherboard: 2.5k
ATI HD4650: 4k
Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz 2x2Gb: 3k

Isn't the HD4670 available for 4.4k from ITWARES? If so,then why suggesting a 4650?

@rajiv

Go for Phenom II 920/940. You wont regret with your purchase later. Or else get a Q9550 at least to ensure you have a better Quad core.

 

[desiibond]

his budget is 12k

 

[furious_gamer]

his budget is 12k

+400 bucks won't be a big thing IMO. Ain't it?

BTW Guys, i OC'ed my E6600 to 3GHz and checked with super-pi 1M. It took 17.635s to finish the 1M calculation. Does this OK for my PC or i miss something?
In background a lot of applications like KAV,WAMP Server, MySQL,Apache, etc running. That does affect the super-pi results?

 

[mannrak2003]

veroru paniyumille anna?veettil eechayadichirippano?overclock um super piyum?

 

[desiibond]

^^you alright?

@rajkumar: yes. not a problem but given his budget I don't think he will go for a GPU.
anyways, config corrected!

 

[mkumar]

Hi, Guys
My friend want 2 set up animation training school, He will b buying around 14 systems 4 his school
He has sent me a cofig. please take look at it,
AMD Athlon X2 7750 3075/-
ASUS M2n68 AM+ 2350/-
Ram 4gb DDR2 2500/-
HDD250 2000/-
Lg DVD 1050/-
Cabinet ATX 1100/-
Monitor TFT 17’’ NEC 5750/-
Keyboard Microsoft Combo 750/-
Graphic card G-force 120 Gt 1Gb 2350/-
Cannon Lide 100 scanner 2932/-
Cannon LBP2900B Laser Printer 5288/-
Altec Lancing 5.1 with remote 4150/-
Cable Cat 6e 305 meter 4500/-
24port switch with 2 giga port 2850/-

Thanks in advance

 

[satyamy]

Hi, Guys
My friend want 2 set up animation training school, He will b buying around 14 systems 4 his school
He has sent me a cofig. please take look at it,
AMD Athlon X2 7750 3075/-
ASUS M2n68 AM+ 2350/-
Ram 4gb DDR2 2500/-
HDD250 2000/-
Lg DVD 1050/-
Cabinet ATX 1100/-
Monitor TFT 17’’ NEC 5750/-
Keyboard Microsoft Combo 750/-
Graphic card G-force 120 Gt 1Gb 2350/-
Cannon Lide 100 scanner 2932/-
Cannon LBP2900B Laser Printer 5288/-
Altec Lancing 5.1 with remote 4150/-
Cable Cat 6e 305 meter 4500/-
24port switch with 2 giga port 2850/-

Thanks in advance

when qty is 14
y all amd
why not 7 intel & 7 amd
try variation for future convenience

 

[rajiv.bandi]

thanks desiibond & rajkumar for ur suggestions
I never tried AMD before. So I am not sure.

No offence guys but I'll go for Intel this time. Probably will try AMD for the next one.
Any suggestions for the G45 motherboards?
Is GA-EG45M-UD2H available in India?

Also for APC , as I want to go for a 620W or 750W psu, will 800VA be sufficient?
I just checked the APC site. Looks like it suggests otherwise.
Can u tell me what are the prices for both(800VA & 1100VA) models here in bangalore?

 

[damngoodman999]

thanks desiibond & rajkumar for ur suggestions
I never tried AMD before. So I am not sure.

No offence guys but I'll go for Intel this time. Probably will try AMD for the next one.
Any suggestions for the G45 motherboards?
Is GA-EG45M-UD2H available in India?

Also for APC , as I want to go for a 620W or 750W psu, will 800VA be sufficient?
I just checked the APC site. Looks like it suggests otherwise.
Can u tell me what are the prices for both(800VA & 1100VA) models here in bangalore?

Its all up to Intel / AMD

G45 ?? go for P45 G chipsets have on board video AFAIK

But this year is AMD's year such powerful CPU's @ affordable price , which i am using is 1000 times satisfied for its power - its in siggy

 

[sunil1882]

Hi Friends,

I am planning to buy below configuration this week. This machine will be primarily used for lab activity (at one time 5-6 Virtual machines) for studies and very few times for games. Please suggest be if any configuration changes needed. My budget was 60K but it seems like I need to take it to 70K.

I do not want to go for Intel Core i7 - 920 as I need more memory (at least 6GB TRI channel) and DDR3 cost is quite high and it cost me around 90K if I go for it and I don't think it is worth if quad core should handle the load at low cost. Please correct me if I am wrong, I would also ready to consider core i7 920 solution if it is really makes a big difference with performance.

After research for some time, I have decided on below configuration. Please suggest me if any modification requires. I have not decided yet on SMPS, Case and Cooler as thinking about which would be best value for money if it does not have much impact on performance.

I have added the similar configuration post in hardware prise section. Please reply on hat post or here for current cost for below components.

My first preference is performance with virtual machines and not much concern about games. Cost is also not a problem but do not want to spend more money if it does not worth. I am marking my current selection with BLUE color, please do let me know if any correction needed.

Unfortunately I am not able to create a new threads, If someone can create it on my behalf that would be great. I am getting below information under posting rules.
"You may not post new threads".


CPU
Intel quad core q9550

Motherboard
ASUS P5Q-E

Graphic Card
MSI R4850 T2D512 (Radeon HD4850) - 512 MB/1GB

RAM
G skill 4gb pi 8500 (2gb * 2) = Total 8 GB
Note: I am planning to buy dual memory module (2 sets = Total 8GB)
Which memory module would be better Corsair / G skill?
I found big difference with cost in 800 MHz/1066MHz frequency memory module? Will 800 MHz RAM should be good enough to perform?

HDD
Western Digital Sata 2 500 GB (32 MB Buffer)
Do I need a floppy drive to load SATA drivers?

Case
NV CM 690 Nvidia Edition
Cooler Master 690
Should I go for "NV CM 690 Nvidia Edition" or "Cooler Master 690 with extra fans"?

SMPS (minimum 650W)
Corsair VX650
PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 860W PSU
Antec NeoPower 650W PSU
Coolermaster Real Power M700 PSU
Corsair’s HX 620
Corsair’s TX 650
VIP 750 watt only costs 4500 Rs. where other costs more than 6500 Rs. Is it worth to go for 6500 + ? Please suggest, If there are any good products with more watt power and with same performance.

Cooler
Thermalright Ultra 120 true blk
Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler
I think I will go with "Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler", what do you say?

Thermal Compounds
Arctic Silver 5 (3.5gms) - If cooler does not have any
Do I really need it, I think Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler should get some with it, Right?

LCD
Samsung 2233SW
Dell S2209W
Which one I should go for?

UPS
APC 650kva

Thanks
Sunil

 

[damngoodman999]

Hi Friends,

I am planning to buy below configuration this week. This machine will be primarily used for lab activity (at one time 5-6 Virtual machines) for studies and very few times for games. Please suggest be if any configuration changes needed. My budget was 60K but it seems like I need to take it to 70K.

I do not want to go for Intel Core i7 - 920 as I need more memory (at least 6GB TRI channel) and DDR3 cost is quite high and it cost me around 90K if I go for it and I don't think it is worth if quad core should handle the load at low cost. Please correct me if I am wrong, I would also ready to consider core i7 920 solution if it is really makes a big difference with performance.

After research for some time, I have decided on below configuration. Please suggest me if any modification requires. I have not decided yet on SMPS, Case and Cooler as thinking about which would be best value for money if it does not have much impact on performance.

I have added the similar configuration post in hardware prise section. Please reply on hat post or here for current cost for below components.

My first preference is performance with virtual machines and not much concern about games. Cost is also not a problem but do not want to spend more money if it does not worth. I am marking my current selection with BLUE color, please do let me know if any correction needed.

Unfortunately I am not able to create a new threads, If someone can create it on my behalf that would be great. I am getting below information under posting rules.
"You may not post new threads".


CPU
Intel quad core q9550

Motherboard
ASUS P5Q-E

Graphic Card
MSI R4850 T2D512 (Radeon HD4850) - 512 MB/1GB

RAM
G skill 4gb pi 8500 (2gb * 2) = Total 8 GB
Note: I am planning to buy dual memory module (2 sets = Total 8GB)
Which memory module would be better Corsair / G skill?
I found big difference with cost in 800 MHz/1066MHz frequency memory module? Will 800 MHz RAM should be good enough to perform?

HDD
Western Digital Sata 2 500 GB (32 MB Buffer)
Do I need a floppy drive to load SATA drivers?

Case
NV CM 690 Nvidia Edition
Cooler Master 690
Should I go for "NV CM 690 Nvidia Edition" or "Cooler Master 690 with extra fans"?

SMPS (minimum 650W)
Corsair VX650
PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 860W PSU
Antec NeoPower 650W PSU
Coolermaster Real Power M700 PSU
Corsair’s HX 620
Corsair’s TX 650
VIP 750 watt only costs 4500 Rs. where other costs more than 6500 Rs. Is it worth to go for 6500 + ? Please suggest, If there are any good products with more watt power and with same performance.

Cooler
Thermalright Ultra 120 true blk
Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler
I think I will go with "Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler", what do you say?

Thermal Compounds
Arctic Silver 5 (3.5gms) - If cooler does not have any
Do I really need it, I think Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler should get some with it, Right?

LCD
Samsung 2233SW
Dell S2209W
Which one I should go for?

UPS
APC 650kva

Thanks
Sunil

The configuration u have mentioned is may be reaching 65K to 70K . if u r in 70K budget u can go for AMD phenom 2 955 & DDR3

First of all , i should ask u a question did u heard about the Phenom 2 ??? from AMD



Cause for 70K ? u can have config which is almost same powerful as corei7


Any way i ll quote the configuration

AMD phenom 2 955 => 13K
MSI GD70 / ASUS M4A79- Deluxe =>11.5K
Corsair 2 X 2GB 1333Mhz => 4.7K
Palit GTX 275 / sapphire HD4890 1Ghz atomic =>13.5K
Cooler master Hyper 212 2FANS w/ ACF MX-2 => 2400 + 350 => 2750
Cooler master 690 cabinet => 4K
Corsair TX650 =>6.7K
LG /Samsung DVdrW =>1K
SAMSUNG 2233SW HD =>9.5K
Seagate /WD 1TB HDD =>4.6K
APC 1100VA =>4.7K

its up to 73K its 10Xtimes more faster than ur config