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furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
veroru paniyumille anna?veettil eechayadichirippano?overclock um super piyum?

:-? . Appa intha forum'la enna post pannanum? Neenga ethukku inga vantheenga?

Hi Friends,

I'm going to upgrade my system with following configuration-
Intel Mobo - DG43NB or DG35EC
CPU - E7400
RAM - DDR2 800MHz - 4 GB

However, I've no idea regarding AMD CPU & compatible mobo. Therefore, please suggest me mobo (integrated graphic & sound card will be better), cpu, ram, DVD writer, cabinet (with smps) etc. My budget 15-16 k.

Thanks in advance,
Anand

Go for what desiibond suggests. Its a way better than the config mentioned by you. Coz the IGP of Intel Chipsets sucks to core and AMD 780G rocks AFAIK. So dont hesitate to try out the AMD variant. Its so good to praise. Nowadays i heard from lot of my friends positively about the AMD than the past. Even i do want to give it a try, and i will.
 

prvprv

Journeyman
hi.. i am thinking of buying a LCD wide monitor >= 18.5". :smile:
Today i have seen my frind's samsung 733 17" monitor and played a dvdrip which has 672*288 resolution and it was soo bad. lot of pixelatoin and very low refresh rate. :sad:
heres the link to that monitor specs..
http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/...&subtype=desktopmonitor&model_cd=LS17CMNSFUXL

if 17" monitor is like this then wat abt 18.5" or greater?:shock:

I use my computer for watching movies. so wat shud i do? anybody watching axxo, fxg, fxm, keltz movies on their LCD monitors??
Please help!! what is the quality on those monitors?:?:
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
looks like that particular video was pretty bad rip. 19" is a good buy for your rig for watching movies.

PS: Buy original. you need not worry about pixelation etc :)
 

prvprv

Journeyman
thanks for the quick reply desiibond :)
"Buy original" u mean Original DVD?? my collection is full of dvdrips :)
 

sunil1882

Broken In
Thank you desiibond and damngoodman999 for your suggestions.

I was checking last week for Hyper-V on Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 and finally found that F4 BIOS update resolve the issue.

Will update you after purchase.

Thanks again.


@sunil, for virtualization and multi tasking Core i7 is unbeatable. Don't consider anything else. Get it for all the PCs and you won't regret!

Only thing is that you need to have a proper airflow. There is a separate threat for any discussion related to core i7 where i7 owners reply to all queries and you will get lot more info there.
 

acewin

Point Blanc
Thank you desiibond and damngoodman999 for your suggestions.

I was checking last week for Hyper-V on Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 and finally found that F4 BIOS update resolve the issue.

Will update you after purchase.

Thanks again.

you can do virtualization on all systems, that is software virtualization.
a processor supports virtualization means it supports HW virtualization.
core i7 are big winners of multitasking sure, because multiple core matters.
Also, in case of RAM you need loads of RAM, you would be knowing if you have got your experience on it. I do vmware based virtualzation for my own work, but the proccy does not supports HW virtualization. Idly you will be able to run 4-6 VMware based virtual machines with good performance(in fact very good) with this setup(if you do SW virtualization). HW virtualization is quiet a boost, but I have not done it yet. Also, the thread link you gave is for virtualization of 64-bit OSes, and they I think need HW support.
HW virtualization is big step. You need to little bios setting for that.
SW virtualization I have seen are RAM hoggers. So generally you put 1GB RAM per VM and that is why I said 4-6.

for gfx card get something cooler. HD4850 will require quiet much power and will have higher temps.
as per your needs dont go more than GTX250, if not much in playing games.

Buy 2 HDDs, virtualization is equally strainful or HDDs. so keep your OS and VMs on separate HDD(not just separate partitions).
try buying cheap HDD 2nd hand from bazaar section, if u wanna increase performance and life so that you are able to run one VM on one HDD.

also a bigger screen helps. Because you will certainly want to run VMs are in 1024x768 or lil better 1180x864 for better visibility. I run RHEL5, and most of the windows fill up the whole screen in case of 800x600 res. get Dell S2409 it will be nice, can get in around 13K

finally get good good cooling for i7, also i7 vs Q9550 you will find quiet a big difference in virtualization and multi-tasking
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also, not just that you can use external HDDs to for doing your VM setup.
 
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sunil1882

Broken In
Thanks Acewin.

Hi All,
Here are last few queries I am having. Please help me with them.

Cooler queries
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For cooler I feel I will go with either "Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler" or "Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler".
My first preference is "Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler" (Reason - It is very quiet and have shown very good results till now).

Is it available at Lamington Road?
I may go for "Coolermaster V8 CPU Cooler" if "Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler" is not available.

I have heard that Thermalright TRUE (For 1366 socket) is best cooler for i7 but also found that it is very noisy (28 dba).

Any suggestions for other coolers which may perform better that two and which are quiet?

Graphic Card
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I want to save as much as I can on graphic card as it does not have any negative affect with performance with virtualization. I would love to get something with low noise and cool. Could anyone suggest a decent cool GPU in 3K-5K Range :)) (Not for Games as I am not a gamer, just for good output for 22’’ monitor)?



Thanks.
 

prvprv

Journeyman
hi.. i am thinking of buying a LCD wide monitor >= 18.5". :smile:
Today i have seen my frind's samsung 733 17" monitor and played a dvdrip which has 672*288 resolution and it was soo bad. lot of pixelatoin and very low refresh rate. :sad:
heres the link to that monitor specs..
http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/...&subtype=desktopmonitor&model_cd=LS17CMNSFUXL

if 17" monitor is like this then wat abt 18.5" or greater?:shock:

I use my computer for watching movies. so wat shud i do? anybody watching axxo, fxg, fxm, keltz movies on their LCD monitors??
Please help!! what is the quality on those monitors?:?:

Forgot to tell u that the motherboard of that PC is "Mercury 845" with onboard video. Proccy is p4 2.6GHz . so... is the mobo reason for bad quality?
 

furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
Forgot to tell u that the motherboard of that PC is "Mercury 845" with onboard video. Proccy is p4 2.6GHz . so... is the mobo reason for bad quality?

A 19" Monitor would be good, but you dont expect it to play HD Video as ur system is too weak to handle it... Now, its upto you.
 

prvprv

Journeyman
A 19" Monitor would be good, but you dont expect it to play HD Video as ur system is too weak to handle it... Now, its upto you.

mine is C2D E7200 wid Gigabyte G31 mobo. How about adding a graphics card wid DVI port?
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^^ he is just playing DVD video it seems as per his post.
its not even dvd its just dvdrip:grin:
 
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desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
for HD playback, I think a 9400GT should be just fine. MSI one comes with VGA, DVI and HDMI ports I think and costs around 2.5k (total VFM)
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and btw, DVDrip toh Pentium III bhi play karega :)
 
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prvprv

Journeyman
all i worry is about the smoothness and sharpness of the video when compared to normal CRT monitors.
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btw im searching for a LCD monitor with the viewing angles >= 176/176 degrees
 
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furious_gamer

Excessive happiness
mine is C2D E7200 wid Gigabyte G31 mobo. How about adding a graphics card wid DVI port?
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its not even dvd its just dvdrip:grin:

Adding gfx card to ur system? Or for the system u mentioned in ur prev post? Man its confusiong?????
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
all i worry is about the smoothness and sharpness of the video when compared to normal CRT monitors.
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btw im searching for a LCD monitor with the viewing angles >= 176/176 degrees

hmm. you may need a non-TN panel for that viewing angle. Check with Emmarbee, he is doing a lot of R&D on quality panel monitors these days :)
 

prvprv

Journeyman
Adding gfx card to ur system? Or for the system u mentioned in ur prev post? Man its confusiong?????

adding gfx card to my system (c2d, g31) for dvi support and high quality video
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hmm. you may need a non-TN panel for that viewing angle. Check with Emmarbee, he is doing a lot of R&D on quality panel monitors these days :)

yaa but those will be costlier i think :???:
 
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