What do u want to change in Microsoft & Windows Vista?

[sakumar79]

Just two quick points -
1. regarding Dongle - I think that in the US, using hardware locks is not allowed (I may be wrong)
2. regarding bundling Firefox, etc with Windows - If MS did that, I think Opera would sue them... Similarly, if MS bundled OOo, Abiword makers, etc would sue them...

Arun

 

[gxsaurav]

2. regarding bundling Firefox, etc with Windows - If MS did that, I think Opera would sue them... Similarly, if MS bundled OOo, Abiword makers, etc would sue them...

Thanx for understanding... I hope that makes it clear why MS cannot bundle 3rd party software with Windows.

One Example, Google sued MS for providing Windows Live search as the default search engine in IE 7. Microsoft made it very easy to just click on the tool bar to change the service provider, but still Google was whining.

If someone goes to Google.com they automatically get a notification "Would U like to set Google as the default search engine" but still Google was whining.

Fellow members I ask you, IE 7 is a product made by MS, shouldn't MS be allowed to bundle what they want with it.? Are they stopping anyone from changing the search default?

 

[nish_higher]

What if u lose the dongle?

what if you lose the cd\dvd
all steinberg\east west\digidesign products have not been cracked thanks to the dongle protection.3ds max doesnt use that protection?but i dont know i m not an anim8r.btw if u use vista on mac please tell me how to do that.

Just two quick points -
1. regarding Dongle - I think that in the US, using hardware locks is not allowed (I may be wrong)

dongle protection for softwares isn't banned anywhere.

 

[enticer86]

i m fed up with these never ending 500MB+ updates in XP

 

[nish_higher]

i m fed up with these never ending 500MB+ updates in XP

yeah.i had the same problem

 

[entrana]

wow guys 500mb+ patches, i never downloaded this mutch patches
but its true google whines too much

 

[gxsaurav]

i m fed up with these never ending 500MB+ updates in XP

Which Windows XP update is 500 MB? SP2 was 265 MB.

It is an OS & every OS has bugs so they fix it. Ubuntu installation is 700 MB ISO, & You need to download a 700 MB ISO again if u want to upgrade from one version to another.

Mac OS X updates are 70 80 MB for incremental update & 350+ MB for combo update.

Windows Updates on the other hand are usually 4 MB max, generally under 900 KB to download if u download via Windows Update.

Now, if u r fed up of updating your OS for new features then........i have nothing to say

 

[entrana]

true, i think the only problem though in vista is the prices, functionality and bugs. the bugs are enormous

 

[enticer86]

Which Windows XP update is 500 MB? SP2 was 265 MB.

well if u had sp1 wali installation CD, then sp2+ other small PATCHES total up to approx 500MB+... I formatted my PC a few days back n thats y whining now. I hav SP2 installation in a CD but nothin to do abt the other patches- if u hav an idea pls helpme out. Autopatcher is not workin these days.

Now, if u r fed up of updating your OS for new features then........i have nothing to say

U r so rite bro- east of west XP stil is the best. maybe coz m more used to it... but i got this Solaris CD, and Ubuntu one too... Stil m a die hard windows xp [and win98] lover

 

[goobimama]

My point is simple.

If developing anti piracy measures cost them like 1k of the 18k for Windows Vista, it would be better to stop developing that anti piracy measures and reduce the price to 17k. In both cases, people are going to pirate it whether MS likes it or not, so why waste money on incorporating anti piracy measures?

 

[nish_higher]

windows ultimate costs rs9737.check deltapage.com i think the price should be kept the same but some protection must b added.or else reduce the price.but the thing is that still no one will pay thousands when vista in india is available for 100 rupees.so better put some protection or something.
and gx_saurav thanks for that link to remove messenger ads.

one more thing i need-just like a windows image and fax viewer there should b a office viewer-an app which can show word,excel,etc files.coz a lot of ppl like me dont have office but come across with such files everyday.

 

[goobimama]

Yeah I realise the price of the OS is 9k, but what I'm saying is, it could be lowered if they don't waste time with this activation cr@p.

 

[gxsaurav]

the bugs are enormous

Every OS has bugs. Microsoft is updating the OS regularly & the updates are given to the users either monthly or weekly as applicable via windows update.

well if u had sp1 wali installation CD, then sp2+ other small PATCHES total up to approx 500MB+... I formatted my PC a few days back n thats y whining now. I hav SP2 installation in a CD but nothin to do abt the other patches- if u hav an idea pls helpme out. Autopatcher is not workin these days.

Check your PM. This thread is not about this.

In both cases, people are going to pirate it whether MS likes it or not, so why waste money on incorporating anti piracy measures?

Because unlike India, the piracy regulations set by the government in other countries are very strict. The problem of piracy isn't that much in Europe & USA.

I do agree that prices should be decreased. They are already at all time low. Rs 5,350 for Windows Vista home premiumi, you can pay this much if u r earning cos you will be using Vista for many years to come. It is completely worth it, you will be getting free updates for many years, all software work, u work on it, & you can even use it to make money in many ways. The prices should be further low though.

one more thing i need-just like a windows image and fax viewer there should b a office viewer-an app which can show word,excel,etc files.coz a lot of ppl like me dont have office but come across with such files everyday.

Already noted, have a look at post 1 of this thread.

 

[mediator]

I have already answered that you can activate Vista as many times as u like on the same computer.

You can move Vista license from one computer to another 10 times.

Sorry, bt wat if me n my other 15 friends decide to buy VISTA? Do we have to buy 2 install boxes? How absurd!

You shud just forward our suggestions without using ur brains as a processing box in between!

With proper WHQL drivers, BSODs are rare.
In Vista if an application crashes, it doesn't crashes the whole OS.
Driver & app incompability are the responsibility for 3rd party vendors to solve who are the creators of these.
You do not need to download the file copy hotfix cos the problem is

not universal & may or may not arise at all.
Windows Vista Home premium includes Aero.

Its time that even the cheapest and useless edition of VISTA to also include aero!!
Besides, people encounter BSODs with windows bundled drivers too. U mean they r not WHQL? Tell them to improve their sorry state and make something that works out of box without needing any update!
Too bad people waited for SP2 in Xp case for frustration decrease/life improvement and a hotfix for 'file delete' problem in case of VISTA to have a workable OS!

Tell them to improve their development and test cases, so that simple thing like 'file delete' that shud have been rectified in alpha testing itself shudn't occur any more!! Now shud I give suggestions for that too on how to code file delete procedure?

Microsoft gave ISVs Vista beta already before launching to fix there

apps. It is there responsibility. Microsoft even provides compability

mode for application available when u right click on an exe

->Properties.

I see everybody is to be blamed save MS! I see...good logic!! May be they shud create some how to/tutorial telling other companies and developers on 'how to code/ wat not to do' since they cannot tell directly "Wat to do"!! Poor developers and other companies!

PowerShell was released after Vista. Microsoft lacks a time machine to

bundle it in Vista RTM before powershell was released. It is available

by Windows update easily. Stop whining cos the option is already there

for u to use.

Since they can release XP+SP2 CDs for their crappy/buggy/not working original Xp CDs as alternatives, then y can't they release anotha like such for VISTA student editions or absurd 'stripped down' editions!

Powershell was released after Vista was launched, Vista is an OS for

home usage so it makes no sense to include PowerShell. If you need it

you can download via Windows Update. Powershell will be included in

Vista SP1

U think OS is all bt movies and songs? Increase ur OS knowledge. U don't even know that standards OS have GUI working on the top of kernel!! Learn about OS first and it will make sense to u!!

A student can buy a student license for Vista Home premium for about

$100 easily in USA which includes support for Aero. I m sorry I cannot

do anything about your ignorance.

A 'stripped down' license copy of an insane $150+ that activates on just 10 different computers with 'file delete' problem needing an internet connection for hotfix since autopatcher has been abandoned by them and anotha student edition that doesn't includes AERO? Be reasonable and tell MS to be the same! I hope the AERO on home edition isn't 'stripped down'!

'Stripping' and 'teasing' the users all the way!!
Tell MS to include options from next time and forward these suggestion without processing from ur brain! Who knows MS might listen!

Powershell is a product made for Powerusers & admins who get

documentation with it when the download it.

Do not expect me to reply to you unnecessary troll. Sorry.

Now say VISTA isn't for admins and power users, thus doesn't include power shell out of box, students don't need AERO etc!

Delivering VISTA much later than expected and still not giving something expected and reasonable, but surprises like 'file delete'
problem! I see, u really can't reply to my suggestions. Thus I 'm
requesting u to forward it all to MS, without reading it and
processing it from ur brains. Let them answer which obviosly U can't, u just can't!!

Why?

So that we can acknowledge if u deserve to use windows, MS-office and

all 3rd party stuff!!


Tell em the scenario in INDIA, how poor we r and thus be reasonable and deliver quality stuff ON TIME! SImple suggestion isn't it?

And please stop ur whinings bt troll and reporting. This is fight club first of all and anyone can see on behalf of the thread u created that I'm simply fulfilling what u asked. So stop crying now and discuss quietly!

Reporting each n evry thread since past few days. Is it ur new trend or u got some authority here as friend?

 

[gxsaurav]

Mediator, your post is a troll attempt & irrelevant to this thread. I m not explaining same thing again & again here. You got questions ask in software troubleshooting section.

 

[nish_higher]

i hope this thread reaches microsoft.this thread is about microsoft so i also want something for my phone-i m not happy when everything goes washed away if i run out of battery.this is something really p.i.t.a.also want windows (PC) to stop running all background things (as it happens while running games in vista) when some cpu hungry app is run.

 

[gxsaurav]

this thread is about microsoft so i also want something for my phone-i m not happy when everything goes washed away if i run out of battery.

Which phone is that?

also want windows (PC) to stop running all background things (as it happens while running games in vista) when some cpu hungry app is run.

When you run a game in Windows with the tag "game" Windows sets the exe to high priority & all your background apps like Virus etc are stopped.

When u install a game in Vista just drag the icon of "Game Explorer" & Vista will automatically download game info from the net for it & set it accordingly.

Any game developer who is making a new game like say upcoming crysis, they can simply add some info or tag to the game exe to tell Vista that this exe is a game. This is a feature of DirectX 10.

 

[mediator]

Mediator, your post is a troll attempt & irrelevant to this thread. I m not explaining same thing again & again here. You got questions ask in software troubleshooting section.

This has nuthing to do with trouble shooting but suggestions. Come and discuss when u can comprehend other's post well or when ur absurd fanboyism diminishes to be atleast understanding that this is bt MS where YOU started talking bt Apple and Mac OS X!!

Sheesh I dint even report that! Neways its ur wish, u started this noble thread and talked bt Apple and MAc OS X. I'm just entertaining ur request so tht MS sees u as an honest MVP!!

i hope this thread reaches microsoft.this thread is about microsoft so i also want something for my phone-i m not happy when everything goes washed away if i run out of battery.this is something really p.i.t.a.also want windows (PC) to stop running all background things (as it happens while running games in vista) when some cpu hungry app is run.

U r hoping against hope! I guess this thread was created as a result of another thread created by some fellow member telling how Linux is being accepted by the world as Desktop that too in large numbers apart from Servers and thus to tell MS that they need to do something quick bt it!

But any suggestions remotely against MS are hard to swallow by their, oh well, all understand with their fanboyism reaching to such an extent that they have started reporting it every single time! It will reach MS only if it doesn't get processed by some MVP's brain here acting as a mediator in between!

 

[nish_higher]

Which phone is that?

the gr8 i-mate
btw i want windows to stop all background services like in games when run sum program.maybe thats a direct x feature but why cant it b done to any other thing-apps.

 

[gxsaurav]

btw i want windows to stop all background services like in games when run sum program.maybe thats a direct x feature but why cant it b done to any other thing-apps.

Windows Vista automatically gives priority to application at the top level at which u r working, so in most cases this is not required.

If it is about a particular program u r talking about like say u wanna run NishPlayer like this then simply open task manager, right click on the name of the exe for NishPlayer & set the priority to high. Do not set it to real time cos that won't be required.