Vista is still the most secure OS to date.

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praka123

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If you are so sure then why are you so afraid? Even i don't think MS in anyway can Kill open Source. Neither can people like you harm MS by such ramblings and anti MS talk. Makes me think who is affected by FUD most here, hmm.

Let people choose, wise will survive. A single choice can not be 'just right' for everyone.
I am afraid of Microsoft the company.if u care to search google u wont be asking such a question here,did u heard ubuntu?.anti-M$ talk?:mad: do u know what that company holds?weaker OS and good marketing.DOnt u know what MSFT did with bullying SCO UNIX company to break Linux community hence the term FUD evolved.Do u think M$ is arguing for bless that Linux infringes their so called Software patents?
Linux is chosen by people,and ran by community for that matter who believes in Open Source is better.
Now How can a community without any billion $$$ deposits survive with a monopoly OS vendor attacking the community publicly and US laws blindly supports that;even europeans too.this clearly shows how M$ buys every thing.even more:M$ wants major PC makers to hold Windows Xp/Vista pre-installed!-how can that company assumes else all are going for piracy or are M$ -a software police-damn!these M$ zealots always find a fscking reason for all that.
But FOSS is a community and cant be brought-hence the failure of M$ to buy out Linux.
Just research before posting

That report original author posted is biased.
 
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praka123 said:
I am afraid of Microsoft the company.if u care to search google u wont be asking such a question here,did u heard ubuntu?.anti-M$ talk?:mad: do u know what that company holds?weaker OS and good marketing.DOnt u know what MSFT did with bullying SCO UNIX company to break Linux community hence the term FUD evolved.Do u think M$ is arguing for bless that Linux infringes their so called Software patents?

Ya, by chance people other than you also read news and hence know what's going on in computer world, so don't tell me to google.

If you are sh1t scared then who was the guy so sure about MS not possibly killing open source in any way just few posts ago? you don't agree with yourself, how will you agree with others?
Its follish to think whatever comes in MS's favour is sponsored by them. No doubt they are big company but this is not always the case. Due to this ignorant behaviour you can't see the good in things you just sworn to hate.


praka123 said:
Linux is chosen by people,and ran by community for that matter who believes in Open Source is better.

Correction : Chosen by some of the many people.

praka123 said:
Now How can a community without any billion $$$ deposits survive with a monopoly OS vendor attacking the community publicly and US laws blindly supports that;even europeans too.this clearly shows how M$ buys every thing.

It has survived so far and will continue to survive, its foolish to think that open source is going anywhere . Power of community can not be underestimated, people like you will only make it weak.

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M$ wants major PC makers to hold Windows Xp/Vista pre-installed!-how can that company assumes else all are going for piracy or are M$ -a software police-damn!these M$ zealots always find a fscking reason for all that.

That's a very fair buiness practice , pushing your product with collaboration of other related companies, whats bad in that. And was MS able to stop DELL dishing out ubuntu preinstalled PC's? According to your theory mighty MS would have easily bought DELL to stop that, like always. But that didn't happen , that's why consumer is more powerful. And thats why its wrong for you to to say MS can buy everything.


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But FOSS is a community and cant be brought-hence the failure of M$ to buy out Linux.

And there you disagree with yourself again, you are again very confident of MS's failure to kill linux, just at the starting of the post you were scared of the giant and giving me the reasons to be afraid!
split personality? right ,right?

btw, I don't go by the thoughts of FOSS people.
 
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aryayush

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Thats a new one for you maybe because you don't know that legit software enables you to have regular security updates, hence more secure OS. You don't need to be a 'Genius' to know that. :rolleyes:
I will have you know that I used a pirated version of Windows XP for five years and always had it patched up to date directly from Microsoft's official, built-in software update system. Now, I have Vista installed on my MacBook Pro and when I boot into it (wow, I haven't booted into it for more than two months now!), I download all the updates without a hitch. And yes, it is pirated. :)

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Btw, i will be personally glad if your statement holds true.
It is true. There are threads all over this forum that have people reporting serious issues with Windows and market analysts predicting its doom and whatnot, but you'll never see me posting useless remarks against Windows in such threads. On the other hand, run a search and visit just about any thread related to Apple on this forum and see the posts within. You'll know what I mean.

We are being off-topic. I just wanted to correct shantanu about a pirated version of Windows being any less secure than the legit version.
 

eddie

El mooooo
LOL! :lol:

What a joke this study is. The author is using figures for his benefit without providing the data that lead him to the conclusions. If, as claimed by the author, his source is the advisories being launched by every comparative distro then I have a news for every user who has discussed in this thread till now. Guys...Linux distros release advisories for EVERY package they have in their repository.

Now, lets take an example of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. Do you realise that Ubuntu has Debian backend thus it currently releases advisories for 15,000 packages from its repositories. Can you see the number? 15,000!!! Similarly every Linux distro like Novell Enterprise Linux & Redhat Enterprise Linux supports thousands of packages in its repositories and releases advisories for it but what does Windows advisories support? Windows core components and Internet Explorer? Does Microsoft release advisories for 3rd party applications as well?

Now lets come to next step. There are various highly vulnerable software that are cross platform like Apache, MySQL, Mozilla Firefox etc. Does Microsoft's advisories take note of any security vulnerabilities that happen in those packages? No! But Linux distros do release advisories for them. Did the author take all that into account? No, he did not! He just grabbed the advisories from various sources...counted them out and posted a highly biased study.

Now, I just leave it on you guys to make decisions regarding fairness of this study to you people :D

I didn't want to include any flames in this post but I just couldn't resist myself replying to this comment
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Then sir how are you using linux , i wonder.
...because sir he is not stupid unlike a few others. Points and winks :D
 

praka123

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I assume u can understand this:
M$ is a multi billion company which can make things the way they want to.
that was with my first statement=I am afraid of Microsoft the company.
can you single handedly carry a threat from M$ or for that matter any big company?
they already did harm FOSS community.care to know -the patent infringement thingy they just brought itself shows their motive.It in itself made innocent users to thing Linux is illegal?:mad:

Microsoft is a cunning cheat still alive bcoz of such people who believes that M$ rules!?
I am optimistic about FOSS.more and more people are going the FOSS and Linux way whether u dont give a damn1 or what:rolleyes:
get over it dude!,there are people who uses Linux and many other alternate OS too.


Linux is chosen by people,and ran by community for that matter who believes in Open Source is better.
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And there you disagree with yourself again, you are again very confident of MS's failure to kill linux, just at the starting of the post you were scared of the giant and giving me the reasons to be afraid!
split personality? right ,right?
Did anywhere i said M$ killed FOSS or Linux?:eek:
I am pointing to the gigantic monopoly corporation which is still trying to get GNU/Linux OS out from people's view.
 
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vish786

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Then sir how are you using linux , i wonder.
eddie said:
LOL! :lol:

I just couldn't resist myself replying to this comment...because sir he is not stupid unlike a few others. Points and winks :D
i just cant stop laughing at it... good one eddie:D:lol::D

and i can see praka123's frowning face in those smileys. :D

@eddie and @ praka123

the best way of replying them is just ignore them and dont reply, no matter how much u tell them, they will not get convinced.;)
 
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iMav

The Devil's Advocate
the problem is actually the other way round ... praka has hi-jacked any thread to bash ms .... i think he knows coz not long ago i used to point out which threads they hi-jacked im sure he remembers ;)
 

praka123

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^^ yeah,we miss ur golden FUDing here SIr!-We all know who all guys illegally installed MAC OS X on some pc and start reviewing(bashing!) MAC.:D and another poor MAC using soul(s) went frustrating with ur FUDing(for thy owner-Microsoft eh?)
and another blessed soul,came in open source section "to review Ubuntu"-again bashing and FUDing FOSS.who do we careful of?
I Just pointed out the reality-people tend to believe what they got running(windows) is the best and that is a mirage which will be a past history Once u used/switched to better Operating system's.
people Vista fanboys just post such a fake claims as genuine and we cant stop reacting against the lie's they are spreading.for eg:this thread subject :-|
why is it that media can be bought to release such tall claims reg M$ Vista be soo gr8 and next news that "Linux infringes patents"-did u smelled something fishy-that's what me trying to say.
Another thing is this company microsoft,is very keen on getting Linux and Open Source out of world view.
As a lenient person-I care.I want to have this OSS community thrive instead of the monopoly been gaining growth and being rich with another $$$ billion's on their accounts :(
 
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iMav

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we reviewed the mac but the salesman's feelings were so hurt that he started threads for fighting and then it turned into bashing ;)

@praka the OSS will survive dont worry MS is not so ruthless they let apple survive urs is not even a legal entity, also i heard in some MS interview that MS has a whole laboratory set up for OSS where they study OSS (find patent infringements :D) ...
 

vish786

"The Gentleman"
ok guys now stop fighting, earlier members started fighting for which language to choose as National, then they started on religion, next on MAC and windows, and now on windows and linux, and next is MAC and linux and i dont want this to happen.

from now on nobody is fighting, even if somebody tells about linux or windows or mac, nobody should reply to that post... is that clear. :|

i know their is a fight section in digit forum, but just stop it.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
ur new to the forums boy .... tried that already but salesman and believers prefer spreading FUDs and hi-jacking threads

windows, linux, mac ke jhakdge digit forum ki parampara hai ...
 

vish786

"The Gentleman"
iMav said:
ur new to the forums boy .... tried that already but salesman and believers prefer spreading FUDs and hi-jacking threads

windows, linux, mac ke jhakdge digit forum ki parampara hai ...
i'm member of some forums but i have never seen people fighting like so badly, not only for softwares but other things also.

i guess this is becoz its complete indian forum. "Diversity in Unity"
 

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aryayush said:
I will have you know that I used a pirated version of Windows XP for five years and always had it patched up to date directly from Microsoft's official, built-in software update system. Now, I have Vista installed on my MacBook Pro and when I boot into it (wow, I haven't booted into it for more than two months now!), I download all the updates without a hitch. And yes, it is pirated. :)

Seems like you are too happy using your pirated copy. :eek:
Yes most users are aware of the fact of bypassing windows genuine validation. Bypassing activation etc provides you with latest updates and that is as secure as the orignal copy. But, The context in which i made the statement need not to be explained further.


aryayush said:
It is true. There are threads all over this forum that have people reporting serious issues with Windows and market analysts predicting its doom and whatnot, but you'll never see me posting useless remarks against Windows in such threads. On the other hand, run a search and visit just about any thread related to Apple on this forum and see the posts within. You'll know what I mean.

I think the remark i quoted came from you, but lets leave that behind . I don't have enough time for searching the old threads, but i will make my opinion about others from what i read now on.

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We are being off-topic. I just wanted to correct shantanu about a pirated version of Windows being any less secure than the legit version.

And i think he is right, if you dont consider the bypass thing. But hey, if you are a pirate there is no shame left in going a step ahead and using the wga bypass as well. Then its as good as legit , no difference.

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I didn't want to include any flames in this post but I just couldn't resist myself replying to this comment...because sir he is not stupid unlike a few others. Points and winks :D

Didn't get you :confused: , if it was a joke i wanna know :D .
 
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eddie

El mooooo
vish786 said:
@eddie and @ praka123

the best way of replying them is just ignore them and dont reply, no matter how much u tell them, they will not get convinced.;)
I understand what you are saying but if we keep silent on such "studies" then we unintentionally create a sentiment that the claims made in them are true.

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Didn't get you :confused: , if it was a joke i wanna know :D .
You wanna know "IF" it was a joke? LOL! :lol: Next thing I'll have to do is explain it to you in a 100 words essay? :p
 
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praka123 said:
I assume u can understand this:
M$ is a multi billion company which can make things the way they want to.
that was with my first statement=I am afraid of Microsoft the company.
can you single handedly carry a threat from M$ or for that matter any big company?
they already did harm FOSS community.care to know -the patent infringement thingy they just brought itself shows their motive.It in itself made innocent users to thing Linux is illegal?:mad:.

hmmm, hmmm hmmm hmm. ya.
You wrote the same thing in last post. hmm..



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Microsoft is a cunning cheat still alive bcoz of such people who believes that M$ rules!?
I am optimistic about FOSS.more and more people are going the FOSS and Linux way whether u dont give a damn1 or what:rolleyes:
get over it dude!,there are people who uses Linux and many other alternate OS too.

And those 'such people' use MS products because they want to, some continue to use them be cause they are happy with it while some switch over to other stuff which they think is better. How this makes MS still so evil? If some people believe in MS these is a reason for them to, similar to you believing in Linux.



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I am optimistic about FOSS.more and more people are going the FOSS and Linux way whether u dont give a damn1 or what:rolleyes:

And when did i say i was President of US and me giving/not giving a damn abt something will effect millions!! people are free to choose their way, as i said before. I am not here to convince people to join my religion.

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get over it dude!,there are people who uses Linux and many other alternate OS too.

Just got over it :D , I am surprised to know that people use linux and other options. Also just noticed that the forum has thread dedicated to open source full of threads.

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Linux is chosen by people,and ran by community for that matter who believes in Open Source is better.

Oh that rhyms, can be made into a good ad. Or maybe it already is a ad. good

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Did anywhere i said M$ killed FOSS or Linux?:eek:

No you actually never did (specially the text in bold underline) , and why are you asking me this? :confused:

From where the extra 'ed' in 'M$ Killed' came from , if you are not aware you have changed the meaning. I suggest you to read the previous posts again then you will know what you said and what not. :rolleyes:


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I am pointing to the gigantic monopoly corporation which is still trying to get GNU/Linux OS out from people's view.

But you just said in your post " more and more people are going the FOSS and Linux way" . So i assume they (MS) are failing in their motive and you should not be worried. But why it does not look so from your posts :D .

eddie said:
IYou wanna know "IF" it was a joke? LOL! :lol: Next thing I'll have to do is explain it to you in a 100 words essay? :p

Yes i want to know even 'if' it was a joke or just some nonsesnse, ok just kidding got it. I hope you were not doing the 'point and wink' thing in front of a mirror.;)
 
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aryayush

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I think the remark i quoted came from you
... in a thread where such a discussion was already going on. There is a lot of difference between hijacking threads and posting your opinion (however smug it might sound) where it is supposed to be posted.

Anyway, let us not indulge in this anymore. Being friendly with everyone is beneficial to all of us. :)
 

~Phenom~

The No.1 Stupid
I would have never posted that comment , If I would have known That it will turn technology news section to fight club. :)
 

eddie

El mooooo
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I hope you were not doing the 'point and wink' thing in front of a mirror.;)
You can be rest assured that I was not...but who I was pointing towards is still anyone's guess ;)
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
HMM....

Mehul, plz lock the thread. There is no point trying to show the Lingeeks & Macboys the truth. While the Linux, mac & Windows truth is already out there for anyone to see.

Linux guys, if you don't have anything better to do then fighting here, then learn something from kalpik who actually does something for Linux

Macboys........ah forget it

Winguys - Leave it yaar, we are already enjoying whatever we want the way we want, on the computer we want. Let them be afraid & fight....who cares, in the end Porn prevails....woops I mean, computing prevails :D
 
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