Vista is still the most secure OS to date.
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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
All I did was to open an old mail which I downloaded to Vista & it had Nimda virus in a com file. I turned on UAC & it didn't let me run it cos it said "com file makes changes to system which is not allowed" Contact admin.
I disabled UAC & tried it, well...I don't know but nothing happened, KAV did found a virus in that com file in Windows folder...but thats about it. My work was not affected.
I disabled UAC & tried it, well...I don't know but nothing happened, KAV did found a virus in that com file in Windows folder...but thats about it. My work was not affected.
amitava82
MMO Addict
People Saying "I don't use AV in windows XP, just default firewall", to them.. Please Cut the CRAP! No matter how Geek you are, if you are saying you can protect your Windows PC without AV then its either total Bull**it or you don't connect your PC to outside world. That is to say, you don't connect any pen drive, don't use CDs, floppy or net to your PC. In that case even Win 98 wont be affected with virus. You don't believe me? I'll give you proof. I'll just plug couple of randomly selected pen drive from my college to your computer and you will see the difference within one day. Period. Then you will tear your hair saying why I did not use AV at the first place. If you live in Bangalore and have the courage to accept the challenge, just PM me.
gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
Lolz...so if many Windows users know how to protect there computer using correct & commen sence method, they are bull****ing 
Only a lingeek can give such Logic.
Dude, learn to work on WIndows first, if it doesn't work for u then go with Linux. As simple as that. If a virus comes it will affect, but we don't let the virus come to computer at all.
Only a lingeek can give such Logic.
Dude, learn to work on WIndows first, if it doesn't work for u then go with Linux. As simple as that. If a virus comes it will affect, but we don't let the virus come to computer at all.
vish786
"The Gentleman"
cut the crap,
there are people much more intelligent then u and me out their who do lots of stuff on coms than we do,and what u speak is completely wrong and... know not using AV will definitely affect ur system , no matter what customization u do, or change the settings to the highest possible way to block the virus... u wont succeed in stopping the virus without using AV, then why do u think AV, firewalls,anti spyware are used instead they can give a tutorial to just change the settings in ur OS such that OS is not affected by virus.
dude ur just trying to win the argument using some illogical statements.
someone was also correct while telling about u that u lie to such an extent to prove urself correct, and u already did this just now.
i said this becoz u cannot use windows without using a antivirus to keep it virus free when ur system is in touch with insecure sites or virus affected files,thats it and my reply wasn't a counter attack on windows OS.
there are people much more intelligent then u and me out their who do lots of stuff on coms than we do,and what u speak is completely wrong and... know not using AV will definitely affect ur system , no matter what customization u do, or change the settings to the highest possible way to block the virus... u wont succeed in stopping the virus without using AV, then why do u think AV, firewalls,anti spyware are used instead they can give a tutorial to just change the settings in ur OS such that OS is not affected by virus.
dude ur just trying to win the argument using some illogical statements.
someone was also correct while telling about u that u lie to such an extent to prove urself correct, and u already did this just now.
i said this becoz u cannot use windows without using a antivirus to keep it virus free when ur system is in touch with insecure sites or virus affected files,thats it and my reply wasn't a counter attack on windows OS.
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Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
I have been using XP without an Antivirus since XP SP2 . I have an always-on internet connection and my bluetooth dongle is always plugged into my PC and is active .amitava82 said:
if that's what you call "not connecting" to the world , then i can't do anything.
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infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
gx_saurav said:
this doesn't in anyway prove that prev. coded viruses do not affect vista! the number mebbe very very less whose fix is inbuilt in vista but saying "as of now" there are no viruses for vista is utterly stupid!!
@amit,vish
believe it or not, i dun use any AV on my windows system and i'm surviving till date!!! i haf only vista's in built firewall. had the same setup in xp too. i haf uac and autorun disabled, and yes i connect flash drives, not jus mine but even my frenz and i'm not at risk as long as i myself dun inflict damage! and i check the run, runonce reg keys, startup group after a data transfer which is not very very freq in may case. so i guess i've survived widout an AV till now and even wud in future if i continue what i do.
vish786
"The Gentleman"
i said when ur system is in touch with virusinfra_red_dude said:
like visiting insecure sites, and downloading files which includes virus sometimes. virus wont automatically fly to ur sysytem from somewhere. it depends on the activities what ur doing on ur com dude. dont misunderstand me. Too be more specific i'm talking about xp and not vista as its secure till date.
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Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
nopes , i was only saying that a virus "could" enter my system vis the bluetooth channel .amitava82 said:
gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
vish786 said:
Lolz....tell u what, confession. I do visit hacking sites, I do visit porn, I do visit crack sites....but I only use Zonealarm (before that Windows firewall( & Ad muncher. Thats it.
OMG....how can I survive then.
Dude, Virus are just over hyped. If you know what you are clicking on, u won't get affected. I know that, many users in this forum know this, seems like u don't know this thats why Windows world scares u
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vish786
"The Gentleman"
gx_saurav said:Lolz....tell u what, confession. I do visit hacking sites, I do visit porn, I do visit crack sites....but I only use Zonealarm (before that Windows firewall( & Ad muncher. Thats it.
OMG....how can I survive then.
Dude, Virus are just over hyped. If you know what you are clicking on, u won't get affected. I know that, many users in this forum know this, seems like u don't know this thats why Windows world scares u
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... dumbo i know that ur system will be affected only when u open the virus file... until then even if u have lakhs of virus in ur system which have not attached themselves to registry, system will not be affected. but we know that... what about the rest(who use single com) do they know, they just click the file and virus is active and multiplying itself. but there are certain viruses will attach and open automatically at the boot. it depends on how the virus is coded strongly.
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praka123
left this forum longback
obviously,Vista may have lesser viruses than xp,but are u sure that all the virus out on the wild for vista are detected by the BOSSes at redmond?
there are sure Vista viruses there,even i doubt as of M$ Marketing strategy they may have met consensus with warez and virus writer's to "please atleast dont Publicize ur viruses for vista now"-and that seems possible with another thread showing warez guys agreeing with a developer to stop producing warez cracks!
and of M$-they can pay *anyone* whateva teh amount for doing this.
M$ will be hiding there many vulnerabilities and weakness of their OS.
there are sure Vista viruses there,even i doubt as of M$ Marketing strategy they may have met consensus with warez and virus writer's to "please atleast dont Publicize ur viruses for vista now"-and that seems possible with another thread showing warez guys agreeing with a developer to stop producing warez cracks!
and of M$-they can pay *anyone* whateva teh amount for doing this.
M$ will be hiding there many vulnerabilities and weakness of their OS.
gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
praka123 said:obviously,Vista may have lesser viruses than xp,but are u sure that all the virus out on the wild for vista are detected by the BOSSes at redmond?
there are sure Vista viruses there,even i doubt as of M$ Marketing strategy they may have met consensus with warez and virus writer's to "please atleast dont Publicize ur viruses for vista now"-and that seems possible with another thread showing warez guys agreeing with a developer to stop producing warez cracks!
and of M$-they can pay *anyone* whateva teh amount for doing this.
M$ will be hiding there many vulnerabilities and weakness of their OS.
Lolz...then what the hell is secunia doing? Wow, this is just like saying "U.S.A has a aids bomb too but they are hiding it."
Prakash, your statement are just stupid.
Zeeshan Quireshi
C# Be Sharp !
vish786 said:how strong viruses coding is done.
Doesn't necessarily mean that the Trojan/Worm/Virus has to be very complex , it can be as simple as writing a program to sweep of all your files , be it either in Linux or Windows .vish786 said:
PS: before any linux guy replies , i know how linux file permissions work and the internal functionnings .
@visha786 , btw , the word strong in programming is not used in the sense how complex the programming is , but in the sense the mnemonics and naming system used in ur program is standards compliant
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vish786
"The Gentleman"
i meant , the way virus is affecting, some u can do the changes made by the virus, few virus entries cannot be changed coz those files will constantly be running(background)if u kill a thread which belongs to a process, the process will create the same thread, even if its entries are changed. its the same case with windows or linux or anyother OS. The thread is nothing but the virus actively running and multiplying itself.... this is want i mean by strong virus which effect the core process of kernel. but a normal virus can be stopped by just stopping the process it runs and changing few settings and deleting files which runs the virus every time.Zeeshan Quireshi said:Doesn't necessarily mean that the Trojan/Worm/Virus has to be very complex , it can be as simple as writing a program to sweep of all your files , be it either in Linux or Windows .
PS: before any linux guy replies , i know how linux file permissions work and the internal functionnings @visha786 , btw , the word strong in programming is not used in the sense how complex the programming is , but in the sense the mnemonics and naming system used in ur program is standards compliant.
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The other one
If you are so sure then why are you so afraid? Even i don't think MS in anyway can Kill open Source. Neither can people like you harm MS by such ramblings and anti MS talk. Makes me think who is affected by FUD most here, hmm.
Let people choose, wise will survive. A single choice can not be 'just right' for everyone.
aryayush said:Oh, so the non-genuine versions somehow become less secure than the genuine ones? That's a new one.
Thats a new one for you maybe because you don't know that legit software enables you to have regular security updates, hence more secure OS. You don't need to be a 'Genius' to know that.
aryayush said:
I am new to the forum and i don't know you people very well, but soon i will.
btw Spoilsport?
"But if a person can use Mac OS X after having used Windows and still prefer the former, there is something fundamentally wrong with that person! "
If making statements like this is your sport then i choose to be a spoilsport in any such smug filled threads.
aryayush said:
The fact being mac users are also 'very rare' .
Btw, i will be personally glad if your statement holds true.
amitava82 said:
Dude thats totally not true, are you not feeling well
? Not like viruses dont effect windows XP, but careful users can do without AV (coz AV's suck). And all the stuff you said we don't do ,well atleast I exactly do that. No AV's and in full contact with Aliens (outside world).
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