Urgent: suggest ups

[kARTechnology]

1. If you are going to buy 1 UPS for 2 PCS, then buy 800VA one, and if you want to buy one unit for each PC, then buy 600VA.
2. AFAIK, no online shop sell UPS because of its weight.

you mean this Back-UPS RS 800VA 230V India
but both 1.1kva and this have same price, will there be advantage by using usb interface for monitoring? then i will prefer this to 1kva model

Get the 1.1KVA model, will give you 20+ mins of backup(connect only the CPU and monitor to the UPS), if you want 30+ mins you need 1.5kva.

1pc or 2 pcs???
apc 1.5 kva beyond by budget(5.4k)

 

[tkin]

you mean this Back-UPS RS 800VA 230V India
but both 1.1kva and this have same price, will there be advantage by using usb interface for monitoring? then i will prefer this to 1kva model



1pc or 2 pcs???
apc 1.5 kva beyond by budget(5.4k)

For two PCs, for one PC 800VA is more than enough, for two PC's get either two 800VA each or one 1.5Kva.

You might have to increase budget, cause you want 30mins+ sustained backup on each PC, such is not the job of an UPS.

 

[saswat23]

APC promises to give ~20mins backup on its 600VA UPS.
So, you better go for 2 800VA.

How much does a 800VA APC cost?

 

[kARTechnology]

APC promises to give ~20mins backup on its 600VA UPS.
So, you better go for 2 800VA.

How much does a 800VA APC cost?

this is only where i can find price in shops in chennai
*www.ritchiestreet.info/product_additional_details.php?pid=403
i mailed apc and they immediately sent me that they will call me shortly yesterday and till now no call!

 

[tkin]

this is only where i can find price in shops in chennai
*www.ritchiestreet.info/product_additional_details.php?pid=403
i mailed apc and they immediately sent me that they will call me shortly yesterday and till now no call!

Wait for it, or call again, sometimes they require some persuasion, tell them you'll be taking a large or two medium battery UPS.

 

[d6bmg]

If you want 30+ minutes of backup, then you need to go with 1.1KVa model.
Remember, more the power = longer the backup time.

 

[kARTechnology]

just now asked my local shop, he said that APC BR1000-IN is outdated and no stock is available and apc has stopped manufacturing this model( i think he says so because this model is not listed in RASHI peripherals site...

only BR1100CI-IN is available but no software management...
he said 8k for BR1000G-IN with all including tax etc, the quote was from RASHI peripherals branch in my place

is it true that APC BR1000-IN is bad and outdated, because another shop said around 5k for it but it was closed now should see tomorrow
I wanted it because it was in my budget and has software management

is there anyone in here using apc 1kva ups?????? any suggestions of this ups???

or any other ups with software management and 1 kva?

 

[tkin]

just now asked my local shop, he said that APC BR1000-IN is outdated and no stock is available and apc has stopped manufacturing this model( i think he says so because this model is not listed in RASHI peripherals site...

only BR1100CI-IN is available but no software management...
he said 8k for BR1000G-IN with all including tax etc, the quote was from RASHI peripherals branch in my place

is it true that APC BR1000-IN is bad and outdated, because another shop said around 5k for it but it was closed now
wanted it because it was in my budget and has software management
is there anyone in here using this ups?????? any suggestions of this ups???

Its neither out of stock nor bad: APC BR1000-IN UPS - BR1000-IN by: APC - TechShop.in - Buy Tech Online
APC Back-UPS RS, 1000VA, 230V, INDIA

He just wants to sell you a higher priced model to get more profit.

 

[saswat23]

8k is very much for that UPS.
Ask Rashi Peripheral for pricing.

 

[kARTechnology]

8k is very much for that UPS.
Ask Rashi Peripheral for pricing.

Local computer shop phoned Rashi in my area and asked quote and used calculator to add tax and transport charges...

Until then I didn't know that Rashi exists in my area

 

[kARTechnology]

Its neither out of stock nor bad: APC BR1000-IN UPS - BR1000-IN by: APC - TechShop.in - Buy Tech Online
APC Back-UPS RS, 1000VA, 230V, INDIA

He just wants to sell you a higher priced model to get more profit.

But actually BR1000-IN is 4.9 - 5k right, because the link you have given says 7.5k

And any help to bargain with the shopkeeper will be appreciated... what should I tell him to reduce the price

 

[tkin]

But actually BR1000-IN is 4.9 - 5k right, because the link you have given says 7.5k

And any help to bargain with the shopkeeper will be appreciated... what should I tell him to reduce the price

I just showed a link to prove its not bad or discontinued, prices in that site has always been high.

Don't know what you can do, call the distributor first: Rashi Peripherals Pvt. Ltd.

 

[anirbandd]

Thanks for the reply guys,
1) but i think that backup time wont be sufficient (at least 30+ minutes), btw how much APC 1.1KVA double battery provide for 2 pc's..
what I want is good battery life + Longitivity (not batteries but the ups unit atleast)

2) to say the truth, i have experience with microtek ups(many 800va, 1kva) but after 2-3 years they go to trash (even after change battery )
I'm afraid that if APC will also become like that

Everyday there is power cut and ups will run using generator for few hours

3) in local shop APC 1.1kva double battery is Rs.5054, is the price reasonable or is shopkeeper trying to cheat me?
i saw in ritchie street website *www.ritchiestreet.info/product_additional_details.php?pid=846 and its cheaper
Is there any benefit by going to the APC 1 kva model with usb port for monitoring function
4) and will using ups for long time (20 minutes+) cause damage to my PSU, as corsair recommends to use PURE SINEWAVE UPS
I have cx430v2 and it is my first branded PSU , other one is zebronics
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and I will also consider to see if my present inverter can run my 2 pc's
5) How much watts do these 2 pc consume?
I currently have a Su-Kam inverter with 1 battery, i will see specs of both tomorrow and see if it can handle this 2 pc's load + others(lights, fans etc)...
I am confused weather to connect

pc --> ups --> inverter --> power grid
=or=
pc --> inverter --> power grid

and present ups is (this UMAX Serviour UUPS 650 not giving backup more than 10 mins, and that too i replaced with new batteries 4 months ago, service man said that circuit board problem)

buddy, APC is legendary in reliability.. go for it eyes closed.

Everyday there is power cut and ups will run using generator for few hours

this is NOT recommended... do not connect generator o/p to UPS. generator power/voltage is 'dirty' and not suitable for UPS.

How much watts do these 2 pc consume?

see my rig.. it consumes max 300W and gives me 10mins easily[dunno the max time coz i switch rig off as soon as power cut occurs]
each of your rigs will consume far less power... so the APC RC600 will happily provide you with around 20mins easy-peasy.

pc --> ups --> inverter --> power grid
=or=
pc --> inverter --> power grid

again, a UPS is best used as a standalone backup provider: pc --> ups --> power grid

 

[d6bmg]

Local computer shop phoned Rashi in my area and asked quote and used calculator to add tax and transport charges...

Until then I didn't know that Rashi exists in my area

Bad shop. Move to another one.

 

[kARTechnology]

buddy, APC is legendary in reliability.. go for it eyes closed.

this is NOT recommended... do not connect generator o/p to UPS. generator power/voltage is 'dirty' and not suitable for UPS.

see my rig.. it consumes max 300W and gives me 10mins easily[dunno the max time coz i switch rig off as soon as power cut occurs]
each of your rigs will consume far less power... so the APC RC600 will happily provide you with around 20mins easy-peasy.

again, a UPS is best used as a standalone backup provider: pc --> ups --> power grid

But there is 6-12 hours power cut and sometimes even 1 day... but generator is kirloskar green silent 10Kva generator

And will active pfc psu (corsair 430v2) be damaged / cause damage to ups because of running in ups battery power is not pure sinewave?

edit

just now called apc and they said that BR1000-IN IS NOT AVAIABLE AND BR1000G-IN IS AVAILABLE which is a replacement FOR br1000-in as it is old, and price now is 7.1k without tax

then why they have not updated their website
*www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1000-IN
Standard Lead Time: Usually in Stock
they should have said "maybe" maybe

if another computer shop(i had given my old umax 1kva ups to repair) says BR1000-IN is available at 5k should i go for it or not now? (will go evening, if old ups is ok, then no need to buy...but if not then i should )
i'm afraid that warranty will also be unsupported then...

 

[harshilsharma63]

And will active pfc psu (corsair 430v2) be damaged / cause damage to ups because of running in ups battery power is not pure sinewave?

Even I need answer to that question as I too have CX430v2 and I'm buying APC ups.

 

[tkin]

Even I need answer to that question as I too have CX430v2 and I'm buying APC ups.

Nope, no chance of damage, good PSUs have sine wave correction.

 

[harshilsharma63]

Nope, no chance of damage, good PSUs have sine wave correction.

Nope, no chance of damage, good PSUs have sine wave correction.

 

[tkin]

Of course stay away from local UPS.

 

[kARTechnology]

computer shop repaired UMAX ups for Rs1250- board and battery damaged, so board repaired
1st he said battery ok but now all changed, i said u keep the ups and i will buy new apc from you but he did not agree

and battery given for warranty(takes 20-30 days)
and now if then also it won't work then eyes closed , going for APC BR1000-IN waiting for battery to come
using inverter(pure sinewave) temporarily...