Tomb Raider Series Reboot

[cyborg47]

He bashed specific elements of The Last of Us, and for that everyone took it as a personal attack as if Naughty Dog is their breadwinner and started accusing him of being a male chauvinist and not liking women being put in danger [no wonder he's enjoying the game this thread is about...].

There you go, you said it in your own words, bashing.

The only person Dead5 reminds me of is ithehappy, now d5 is probably not as arrogant as he was, but I could see it, and I responded to that, not as an ND fanboy but as a normal TDFer. His bashing on LoU was stupid, misleading, and added nothing to the discussion, something you say on the internet just to satisfy your ego..something like that.
I can give you a ton of examples of it, but too tired of another rant

 

[gagan_kumar]

I don't see a discrete GPU in your siggy. If you don't have a decent discrete gpu, then things like this are bound to happen. TR is very demanding and a nightmare for igp's like hd 2500.

wth it was running smoothly till now what happened now...................... for one reason or other i m delaying my purchase of gpu

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Good, end it here, which would be awesome!

Yeah I can't argue with people who fail to comprehend simple posts and then pretend to be all holy and saintly as if they weren't mistaken

There you go, you said it in your own words, bashing.

See? The distortion begins again!

Did I ever say he doesn't bash non-nintendo AAA games? I only said it isn't his habit. He didn't say that The Last of Us is a horrible game, he only said that it relied on a cheap emotional hook and that Naughty Dog blatantly lied about the AI.

 

[heidi2521]

Erm no, not quite. He's praised a lot of titles not on Nintendo platforms (the Witcher 2, Tomb Raider, Ni No Kuni etc) and bashed bad titles of Nintendo platforms just the same.

Add Quake 3 Arena, Deus Ex, Doom II, Europa Universalis III: Chronicles, Victoria II, Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, GTA: Vice City, Valkyria Chronicles & Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance to that list .

 

[cyborg47]

Did I ever say he doesn't bash non-nintendo AAA games? I only said it isn't his habit. He didn't say that The Last of Us is a horrible game, he only said that it relied on a cheap emotional hook and that Naughty Dog blatantly lied about the AI.

So bashing is fine, as long as you give people enough reason to be okay with it? That gives people some kinda license to bash games?
You should really go back and look at the last of us thread again, its pure hatred...and when you try to show that on a forum, you get the exact same thing back to you..which is what happened with d5 I guess

 

[Extreme Gamer]

The only person Dead5 reminds me of is ithehappy, now d5 is probably not as arrogant as he was, but I could see it, and I responded to that, not as an ND fanboy but as a normal TDFer. His bashing on LoU was stupid, misleading, and added nothing to the discussion, something you say on the internet just to satisfy your ego..something like that.
I can give you a ton of examples of it, but too tired of another rant

They weren't stupid and they weren't misleading.

So bashing is fine, as long as you give people enough reason to be okay with it? That gives people some kinda license to bash games?
You should really go back and look at the last of us thread again, its pure hatred...and when you try to show that on a forum, you get the exact same thing back to you..which is what happened with d5 I guess

He didn't bash the bloody game, he bashed certain elements of it...

 

[cyborg47]

They weren't stupid and they weren't misleading.

How were they not?

 

[CommanderShawnzer]

*Mod cleanup incoming*

 

[heidi2521]

How were they not?

Burden of Proof etc...

 

[Extreme Gamer]

How were they not?

Easy: the AI doesn't work as advertised, and the game does rely on a cheap emotional hook.

 

[vickybat]

wth it was running smoothly till now what happened now...................... for one reason or other i m delaying my purchase of gpu

It happens in specific game segments where overall rendering takes a toll on weak GPU. FPS is never constant. There are crests and troughs in the graph.
There is such a segment towards the end level.

Buy a decent gpu mate. TR looks jaw dropping in high settings.

 

[cyborg47]

Easy: the AI doesn't work as advertised

Can't comment about that until I play, may be sometime in the future. But majority of my friends(lot of non ND fans) said the game's AI is terrific, better than most of the AAA games out there.

the game does rely on a cheap emotional hook.

Are people supposed to take that as a fact, or just your opinion? coz we can end it here without having the mods clean this thread up.

 

[vickybat]

^^ Just report flame bait and troll posts mate. That's the best thing to do.

 

[cyborg47]

^^ Just report flame bait and troll posts mate. That's the best thing to do.

Woah no..the last thing I want is the mod for cleaning up this thread. Last time I wrote a big as$ post addressing the haters, was gone as soon as the mod entered.

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Can't comment about that until I play, may be sometime in the future. But majority of my friends(lot of non ND fans) said the game's AI is terrific, better than most of the AAA games out there.



Are people supposed to take that as a fact, or just your opinion? coz we can end it here without having the mods clean this thread up.

Being terrific doesn't mean it works as advertised.

Do you know what a cheap emotional hook means? I want to know what you understand by that, because it is this understanding which seems to be the point of contention.

Spoiler

Cheap emotional hook means that a storywriter can quickly get his audience involved emotionally in a game without worrying too much about character development. It happens in a lot of media (FullMetal Alchemist, anyone?)

 

[cyborg47]

Being terrific doesn't mean it works as advertised.

Never said I disagree, I am against false advertising too, but I can't comment on it until I play it, so wait for that

Do you know what a cheap emotional hook means? I want to know what you understand by that, because it is this understanding which seems to be the point of contention.

Spoiler

Cheap emotional hook means that a storywriter can quickly get his audience involved emotionally in a game without worrying too much about character development. It happens in a lot of media (FullMetal Alchemist, anyone?)

That was some nice attempt to outsmart somebody, anyway, again..Are people supposed to take that as a fact, or just your opinion?

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Never said I disagree, I am against false advertising too, but I can't comment on it until I play it, so wait for that

I'll look forward to it

I'm agreeing with Dead5 after playing the game myself.

 

[cyborg47]

I'll look forward to it

I'm agreeing with Dead5 after playing the game myself.

Didn't you also say that you gave up on the game after sometime..clumsy controls, etc?

 

[Zangetsu]

I don't see a discrete GPU in your siggy. If you don't have a decent discrete gpu, then things like this are bound to happen. TR is very demanding and a nightmare for igp's like hd 2500.

TresFX is a resource hog...will drop the FPS by large amount need a high end GPU for awesome eye candy

 

[Extreme Gamer]

Didn't you also say that you gave up on the game after sometime..clumsy controls, etc?

Yeah, but not clumsy controls- clunky controls. They are two different things. About halfway through. I didn't give up, I just wasn't enjoying myself so I returned it to my friend.

That was some nice attempt to outsmart somebody, anyway, again..Are people supposed to take that as a fact, or just your opinion?

That is a fact. The meaning of cheap emotional hook is quite clear in the spoilers.