The ultimate shootout: Apple Mac OS X vs. Microsoft Windows Vista

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aryayush

aryayush

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gx_saurav said:
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Did u mentioned something :D. Too bad Windows has been showing preview of Images & Movie files since Windows ME. You can add any file to preview in Explorer itself using simple plug-in based mechanism. I have myself added PDF & PSD Preview by simply using plug-in available on MSDN.You can preview the whole video in it. Even seek the timeline. Watch before you say something cos now I can simply test it in Mac :D.
What is not there by default is not a feature.

gx_saurav said:
Finder doesn't even has an address bar & GO->Go to location is not an address bar. It doesn't shows me the address at which I am.
What do you need the address bar for?

gx_saurav said:
And No, I was not talking about preview of this kind. I was talking about tooltips. Mac has no tooltips whether it is on application toolbar buttons or folder mouse hover. If there is then tell me plz.
No, this is not Windows, this is Mac OS X. There are some user interface conventions. Mac OS X does not use tooltips like Windows and it is certainly not a drawback. In the view options in the Finder ('Command + J'), you can set it to "Show item info". After that the Finder will show you the number of files in folders in the icon view. This is what appears on the tooltip in Windows. Of course, the best is the column view which shows you all the files and the preview. Mac OS X is not Windows and if it starts behaving like Windows, that will be a drawback. Tooltips are so annoying that you have an option in AutoPatcher to turn them off. Of course, it is a matter of preference. I am not saying either method is wrong, but yes, I certainly miss the Column view of the Finder when I am forced to use Windows on other people's computers.

gx_saurav said:
Yo, I don’t have 3 hands :D
Dragging a file from one column to another takes only one hand, at least for a human being.
Dragging a file and hitting the shortcut 'Command + Up' (the two buttons are really close on the right hand side of the keyboard) takes only two hands if you are normally equipped by God.

gx_saurav said:
Arya, clearly you are lying now. I just checked myself. I made a folder in my Home drive “files”. Inside it I made another folder “Downloads” Now I copied a file in “Downloads”. These all folders are in Macintosh HD. Now I went to my downloads folder & tried to cut a file so that I can paste it back to files folder. Here is an eye opener, despite of both Files & downloads folder being on same Mac HD there was no cut option. Want me to show u a video now :D. This is where we say we were reveling the truth.
First of all, I never lie. Out of the nearly three thousand posts I have on this forum, if you can find me one where I lied, I'll do whatever you ask me to. (Of course, I might make some mistakes sometimes like saying that the iSight camera works with a PC, but I have never lied purposely.)
As for the topic at hand, I said that the Finder has the "cut-paste functionality". I know, and you know, that the Cut option under the Edit menu does not work. You have to use drag and drop, and I prefer that.

gx_saurav said:
Preview just sux. I don’t want to write about why ACDSee or Windows Photo gallery is better than “Preview” right now else the post will be too long. I hope you don’t comment back saying “oh pwned” cos I can pwn u easily in this regard.
Preview is meant for previewing your images and PDFs, not managing them. It is not a photo managing application. It serves one purpose and does that spectacularly well.
As for the Mac OS not having a photo managing application, if you are using a Mac at your nearest Apple Store, you'll see iPhoto right there in the dock. I have the Mac OS X install discs that came with my notebook and the whole of iLife is there on it. Any person on this forum who buys a Mac gets iLife along with it. It is not for Apple to make sure that those who pirate their operating system get the full benefit of it. Anyway, since you are already pirating the operating system, you might as well pirate iLife too and use it. Either way, I don't give a damn.

gx_saurav said:
And yes, using Windows Image engine plug-in, you can add any file format to the supported file formats in Windows Vista photo gallery. I am myself viewing RAW Files of digital camera & PSD in photo gallery itself using plug-in easily available from Microsoft.
What is not there by default is not a feature.


gx_saurav said:
That’s how things are done in Windows. A centralized shared location for all your installations.
I have had many a moment of grief as a Windows user when I wanted to move an application from the Program Files folder and I had to uninstall it, re-download the installer and then re-install it elsewhere. If Windows does not do it, you do not need it. Logic at its best!

gx_saurav said:
Unlike Mac.
What is the Applications folder for then? It is also "a centralized shared location for all your" applications.

gx_saurav said:
And why do you want to have 2 copies of same app for same user :?
I have an applications TubeSock that downloads YouTube videos but it downloads only one at a time. All I had to do was press the option key and drag the application and leave it to make a copy of it. Or right click on it and select 'Duplicate'. Now I could run both of them at once and download two videos together. I can make multiple instances of Yahoo! Messenger for use with various accounts and a copy or two of VLC to play two-three videos simultaneously.
Oh, I can think of a lot of uses for this feature already. We are discussing the drawbacks in Mac OS X here and are tearing apart Windows' shortcomings instead because it is hard to do so for Mac OS X.

gx_saurav said:
About the so called “zoom” feature for Mac. Here is the thing. With automatic zoom safari & firefox were going out of my monitor screen when I opened some pages :D & I had to go to that green zoom button again to zoom it back to normal for every page. You mentioned in another page that you need to resize for IE 7 in Windows, here is an eye opener. In Windows you just maximize apps……in Mac, there are many windows set at weird location. Some going below half the dock.
No windows ever go below the dock unless you move them to such a position. It was a bug in previous versions of Mac OS X but Apple has fixed it in Tiger.
As for the zoom and maximise thing, like I said, you can always drag a window to stretch over the whole screen and then use it. It won't become small again. But I prefer to do a lot of things at once, thank you very much.

gx_sauav said:
I wonder how u once lied “ I m using windows from 6 years & m quite proficient in it” when you have not even seen the fonts folder in Windows :D

Installing a font, simply copy it to fonts folder
Uninstalling a font , simply delete it
Preview a font, simply double click on it.
In windows font is just a file like any other file & you can do whatever you want with it.
Oh, I know all about the fonts folder and it is one of the reasons why the Mac OS X approach is so superior to it. FontBook is such a nifty application - you can preview your fonts at all sizes, view all the different variations of it, group and manage your fonts under several categories, disable certain fonts, keep track of the ones that were there by default and the ones that you installed yourself, you can validate your fonts and font files that you haven't even installed yet, view all the detailed info about the fonts individually, remove duplicates... I could go on. Installing fonts only requires you to double click on them.
I would've thought that being into graphic designing, etc. yourself, you would at least have some sense of what a wonderful utility it is.
Oh, and BTW, if someone needs to do it the sucky Windows way, there is the same sort of Fonts folder in the Library. You can access it from the FontBook application to. Needless to say, I haven't even seen that folder yet.

gx_saurav said:
Poor RAM Management, search on wikipedia for Superfetch boy.
SuperFetch has come in Windows Vista but of course you are used to not multi-tasking from your Windows XP days.

gx_saurav said:
How can you see flaws with a white plastic sheet on your eyes. I just pointed out Tooltip flaw, Cut flaw…address bar flaw, go back toolbar button flaw but you didn’t see any of it.
Tooltip - Not behaving like Windows is a virtue, not a flaw.
Cut - Already accepted that this is a flaw.
Address bar - You need to tell me why you need it.
Go back toolbar button - Command + Up. This does the job. But if you need to do so, you can right click on the toolbar in Finder, select the option 'Customize Toolbar...' and drag the 'Path' button onto the toolbar.

It is no surprise that I don't see any flaws when there aren't any listed by you to be seen.

gx_saurav said:
Every one also knows how big blind repenting mac boy you r. **** just happened with me, reinstalled Mac OS again.
No, you didn't. You wouldn't. You hate the operating system. If it was being such a bother, you wouldn't have gone through the pain of sitting around and re-installing it.

gx_saurav said:
By the way, my airtel modem hangs after working for 5 mins in Mac. & I need to reboot the modem by power off & power on. Any idea why this is happening. Everything like my username password, forwarded port is saved in Modem itself, & if i have to use it, i just install the drivers in any OS & it works fine. Like if I reinstall Windows or boot via Linux Live CD I just install the modem drivers & everything works. In Mac it hangs, help regarding this. Where is the modem option
When I use the BSNL DataOne modem, all I needed to do was connect it, enter the user name and password and it was connected. It keeps disconnecting when I am using XP or Vista and I used to complain to them a lot about it and they even changed my modem once, but it kept disconnecting every fifteen minutes or so. And it never disconnects while being used with Mac OS X. I don't even know what the problem is but as long as it works fine with Mac OS X, I don't have a problem.

gx_saurav said:
Yup, another flaw which they don't except saying "Mac comes with iLife". Here is the thing, even dell comes with Ulead Video studio or Premiere Elements OEM.
Like I said, it is hardly Apple's fault that you are using a pirated version of the operating system without buying a Mac. There is no retail version of Mac OS X for Intel Macs available today. Anyone who buys a Mac gets iLife with it. So, if Apple does not bundled iLife's next version with Leopard, then we it will be a huge drawback. Till then, it is not. You get iLife if you buy a Mac and you cannot buy Mac OS X without a Mac. So there is no way you can get Mac OS X without iLife.

gx_saurav said:
1) Safari's inbuilt download manager doesn't support proper download resume. If I Quit safari, the download will need to be restarted. Well, no hard feelings even IE & Firefox have near useless download manager.
No, I just tested it. I started downloading Windows Media Player from Microsoft's website and I stopped the download and quit Safari when it had downloaded 348 KB. I then launched Safari again and when I clicked on 'Resume', it resumed the download from that point onwards. Maybe the thing you were downloading did not support download resume.
And while we are on the subject, I just have to mention something amazing about Safari's downloading. I was downloading a file from RapidShare once that was about 98 MB in size. After a little while I forgot all about the download and like I generally do, simple hit the power button and hit enter to shut down the machine with all the applications open. I immediately remembered the Safari download and cursed myself. But just then, a window popped up (and if I remember correctly, it had a countdown thing... though I am not sure about that) asking me whether I really wanted to shut down which would stop my current unfinished download. I was so thrilled. I just cancelled it and waited for Safari to finish downloading the file and then shut down my machine. This is called intuitiveness, impeccable good software design.

gx_saurav said:
I just miss my widgets, just downloaded Yahoo widget engine. Dashboard is not for me, it just doesn't cuts it.
There are more than three thousand Dashboard widgets out there in ever shape and size imaginable. Which widget didn't you find?

gx_saurav said:
Now I know why Mac came up with Expose. Due to palated UI you end up with so many windows that cycleing through them using command+tab & cycleing through different windows of a single app using command + ` is tough, so Expose....everything on the screen.
Whatever. You say that like it is a bad thing. There are all sorts of window management features in Mac OS X - with the keyboard, the mouse or even without any of them (well, you sill need to drag the mouse though). Exposé is the best feature ever on any operating system.

gx_saurav said:
Since we do not face the problem of palated UI in Windows, good thing it is not there.
Blah, blah, blah. "Since Microsoft cannot design a good user interface, let's bark the loudest to justify it!"

gx_saurav said:
Keychain doesn't integrates with firefox. Not a flaw, obviously Apple won't let a competing browser work with there software just like that. Safari needs an edge over firefox, right.
Wrong. Camino, Shiira and OmniWeb all integrate with Keychain Access. It is up to the developer to integrate Keychain Access with their applications, not Apple. And it is up to the user to switch to better web browsing alternatives when they switch to a better operating system. If you insist on sticking with a browser that has as horrible and un-Mac-like an interface as Firefox's, Apple cannot do much for you anyway.

gx_surav said:
And seriously, MacOS is just not made with keybaord in mind. Sometimes simple task need 4 keyboard shortcuts.
First of all, I have yet to find something that I need keyboard shortcuts for and they are not there by default. Second, if I ever need to add a keyboard shortcut for any feature in any application, it is extremely easy to do so. So I don't have any idea what you are complaining about here.

gx_saurav said:
And thanx to iMav, atleast he told me about drag & drop in folder nevigation which surely the Mac genius missed to point out. Click on a folder, then press the Option key & then drag the folder anywhere to move it. You can drag that folder to the finder sidebar to reach the Home folder ain, on which if you mouse over, it will open. Then do the same for "files" folder & put it there.
You've got it all wrong. No wonder you guys are so screwed up.
Pressing the option key and dragging something will create a copy of that application in the new place or even in the same folder. For moving a file/folder, you simply need to drag it. Do not press the option key. Basically, option-drag is copy-paste and drag is cut-paste.
When you drag a file/folder over any folder (or the items in the sidebar or on any window when Exposé is active), press the space bar key to go further into that folder (it will automatically spring open after a few seconds if you hover the mouse over it).
Dragging something to the sidebar will make a virtual alias for it in the sidebar so that you have quick access to it.
Is it clear now?

At the end of the day, we're still stuck at five drawbacks. If gx_saurav gives us a good reason why he needs the address bar, we might even have six. What an achievement! :p

BTW, I'll find a keyboard utility and a WMA player for you. I searched on MacUpdate but it does not seem to be there. I'll need to ask in some Apple forum.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
What is not there by default is not a feature.
AVI, MPG JPG BMP PNG TIFF Preview is there by default. If you install any directshow compatible decoder in your Vista based computer the format is automatically assigned for Preview like this. I guess you felt pwned so you replied like that :D. If you install Photoshop CS3 in Vista, guess what. PSD is also in preview now.
What do you need the address bar for?
:ROFL: Why do U need MacOS for when Vista does everything at a really cheap price cos it runs on 4 years old hardware fine.

No windows ever go below the dock unless you move them to such a position. It was a bug in previous versions of Mac OS X but Apple has fixed it in Tiger.
As for the zoom and maximise thing, like I said, you can always drag a window to stretch over the whole screen and then use it. It won't become small again. But I prefer to do a lot of things at once, thank you very much.
I just pressed Zoom, & took a screenshot. See for yourself. :D

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First of all, I never lie. Out of the nearly three thousand posts I have on this forum, if you can find me one where I lied, I'll do whatever you ask me to. (Of course, I might make some mistakes sometimes like saying that the iSight camera works with a PC, but I have never lied purposely.)
I hope you are not drunk. First you say you don't lie then u say u don't lie on prupose. Hey who said Mac is using EFI since 2001 :D, while EFI was in developement since 1991.

s for the Mac OS not having a photo managing application, if you are using a Mac at your nearest Apple Store, you'll see iPhoto right there in the dock. I have the Mac OS X install discs that came with my notebook and the whole of iLife is there on it. Any person on this forum who buys a Mac gets iLife along with it. It is not for Apple to make sure that those who pirate their operating system get the full benefit of it. Anyway, since you are already pirating the operating system, you might as well pirate iLife too and use it. Either way, I don't give a damn.
What is not there by default is not a feature. Vista has an edge here. It comes with Windows Photo Gallery which is a Photo viewer & Photo manager. Unlike Mac which requirs you to pay $70 just to get a Photo Management application. (iPhoto) MacOS has no Photo Management application, Windows has. Even Ubuntu had Fspot.

There are more than three thousand Dashboard widgets out there in ever shape and size imaginable. Which widget didn't you find?
None for dashboard :). Yahoo Widgets zindabad

Oh, I know all about the fonts folder and it is one of the reasons why the Mac OS X approach is so superior to it. FontBook is such a nifty application - you can preview your fonts at all sizes, view all the different variations of it, group and manage your fonts under several categories, disable certain fonts, keep track of the ones that were there by default and the ones that you installed yourself, you can validate your fonts and font files that you haven't even installed yet, view all the detailed info about the fonts individually, remove duplicates... I could go on. Installing fonts only requires you to double click on them.
I would've thought that being into graphic designing, etc. yourself, you would at least have some sense of what a wonderful utility it is.
Oh, and BTW, if someone needs to do it the sucky Windows way, there is the same sort of Fonts folder in the Library. You can access it from the Font
Copy & Paste in Windows. Simple. Next....you don't even admit there is a flaw :D
SuperFetch has come in Windows Vista but of course you are used to not multi-tasking from your Windows XP days
Isn't this thread about MacOS X & Vista :confused:. Oh & do u mean windows XP users were not able to multitask...lolz....how many things u did on Windows boy?
Blah, blah, blah. "Since Microsoft cannot design a good user interface, let's bark the loudest to justify it!"
You are the first one who is saying a cluttered UI which many Windows open on screen which you don't even need is a good thing :D. Again, you will do anything to justify Mac.

When I use the BSNL DataOne modem, all I needed to do was connect it, enter the user name and password and it was connected. It keeps disconnecting when I am using XP or Vista and I used to complain to them a lot about it and they even changed my modem once, but it kept disconnecting every fifteen minutes or so. And it never disconnects while being used with Mac OS X. I don't even know what the problem is but as long as it works fine with Mac OS X, I don't have a problem.
Like I said above, i need help in this regard not flameish talks. My password settings etc are in the Modem. In case of Window I don't need to do anything like entering the password or settign whether it is DHCP or PPPoE. Everything is already set inside modem. I just install the drive in case of both BSNL & Airtel modem & it works.

First of all, I have yet to find something that I need keyboard shortcuts for and they are not there by default. Second, if I ever need to add a keyboard shortcut for any feature in any application, it is extremely easy to do so. So I don't have any idea what you are complaining about here.
Tell me about it. I cannot change the keyboard shortcuts like in Windows Vista charecater mapper. I tried changing command+shift+3 to Print screen key & it won't let me. KeyCue is helping a lot right now but then again It is a 3rd party app.

At the end of the day, we're still stuck at five drawbacks. If gx_saurav gives us a good reason why he needs the address bar, we might even have six. What an achievement! :razz:

BTW, I'll find a keyboard utility and a WMA player for you. I searched on MacUpdate but it does not seem to be there. I'll need to ask in some Apple forum.
I just gave u 3 more. Lack of a photo manager, Windows going out of order...unability to resize windows from any side. How many did you admited ? Whats the point of giving flaws when you won't even admit.

Hey arya, Windows Vista also has no flaws. Virus do not come automatically, they need user interaction. It is not the fault of MS that user clicked on a Link saying "Free Viagra".

Do find me a Media Player. VLC Player now crashes here while playing a video. Now quicktime does playes DivX & WMV/WMA but it is not an audio player.

Oh wait, don't bother......I won't be using Mac beyond 8 pm tonight. :D. Just can't live with a cluttered UI having so many windows on screen when I only need to see 2.

Here is an example.

Windows Vista. I have 3 firefox WIndows open, 2 explorer 1 photoshop & acdsee windows. Now I can simply use a single key combination to switch to any of it. Alt+Tab

MacOS X. I have same number of Windows open. To switch to firefox or finder or preview use command+tab. Now to switch between 3 firefox windows use command+`.

Which one is better ?

The problem with Macboys, they are in a misconception that there OS is flawless. Well, there is no remedy to stupidity & ignorence.

End of thread from my Side :). MacOS X is good on a Mac, for kids who want to see flashy things & have a lot of time to waste arguing on forums. Those who want ptrductivity the way they want will use Windows.

Arya trust me, you will sure get a job in Apple India as the marketing manager. :D. You are the best damn salesman of an OS I have ever seen. Or better yet, some mac guy must be watching this forum & he will sure appoint as a Mac genius in the nearest Apple store without caring that you have 0 hardware or software knowledge. Well....you are good in whining & marketing a flawed product na....well thats enough to get a job in Apple.
 
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aryayush

aryayush

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gx_saurav said:
AVI, MPG JPG BMP PNG TIFF Preview is there by default. If you install any directshow compatible decoder in your Vista based computer the format is automatically assigned for Preview like this. I guess you felt pwned so you replied like that :D. If you install Photoshop CS3 in Vista, guess what. PSD is also in preview now.
No, you cannot. Adobe CS3 comes with the option of using the Adobe Dialog so that you can preview your files. You cannot preview them in Explorer. And Adobe CS3 costs more than one lac.
Nor can you preview AVI and MPG files.

gx_saurav said:
:ROFL: Why do U need MacOS for when Vista does everything at a really cheap price cos it runs on 4 years old hardware fine.
Answer the question instead of behaving like a freak. Why do you need the address bar?

gx_saurav said:
I just pressed Zoom, & took a screenshot. See for yourself. :D

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You dragged the window below the dock and took a screenshot, loser. Show me a little video of you pressing the zoom button and the window goig below the level of the dock. (I know you will either say that you don't have time to do this and what not, or will ignore this now. I'm well accustomed to this defensive behaviour by now.)

gx_saurav said:
What is not there by default is not a feature. Vista has an edge here. It comes with Windows Photo Gallery which is a Photo viewer & Photo manager. Unlike Mac which requirs you to pay $70 just to get a Photo Management application. (iPhoto) MacOS has no Photo Management application, Windows has. Even Ubuntu had Fspot.
Every Mac on the planet comes with iPhoto by default. Try buying Mac OS X without iPhoto if you can please!

gx_saurav said:
Copy & Paste in Windows. Simple. Next....you don't even admit there is a flaw :D
This guy is either officially a complete nutter or he has been used to using crap for so long, better things do not appeal to him now. Copying and pasting a file is easier than double clicking on it. Even a newbie can install a font on Mac OS X, not so on Windows. And more importantly, FontBook is a total blessing for doing all the font related tasks. Bleeagh, who have I indulged myself with!

gx_saurav said:
You are the first one who is saying a cluttered UI which many Windows open on screen which you don't even need is a good thing :D. Again, you will do anything to justify Mac.
Well, sensible people close the windows they do not need. People like you keep them open and then complain about them.

gx_saurav said:
Tell me about it. I cannot change the keyboard shortcuts like in Windows Vista charecater mapper. I tried changing command+shift+3 to Print screen key & it won't let me. KeyCue is helping a lot right now but then again It is a 3rd party app.
You have to use one other key with a modifier key. You cannot have single button shortcuts. Another drawback, I suppose. This makes six.

gx_saurav said:
I just gave u 3 more. Lack of a photo manager, Windows going out of order...unability to resize windows from any side. How many did you admited ? Whats the point of giving flaws when you won't even admit.
Lack of photo manager = What lack! We have iPhoto.
Windows getting out of order = You purposely dragged it below the level of the dock. It is impossible that any window would do that.
unability [sic] to resize windows from any side = The fifth drawback, remember? This was the one.

gx_saurav said:
Oh wait, don't bother......I won't be using Mac beyond 8 pm tonight. :D. Just can't live with a cluttered UI having so many windows on screen when I only need to see 2.
Good riddance. If you try to make a person sleep on a rosy bed who is used to sleeping on roads for too long, he will spurn at you and the bed. Go back to your dirtbag of an operating system and try to never show your face in these parts again.

gx_saurav said:
Windows Vista. I have 3 firefox WIndows open, 2 explorer 1 photoshop & acdsee windows. Now I can simply use a single key combination to switch to any of it. Alt+Tab

MacOS X. I have same number of Windows open. To switch to firefox or finder or preview use command+tab. Now to switch between 3 firefox windows use command+`.

Which one is better ?
Neither. Press F9 and choose any window you want, that is the best. And that is there on Mac OS X. We call it Exposé.

gx_saurav said:
The problem with Macboys, they are in a misconception that there OS is flawless. Well, there is no remedy to stupidity & ignorence.
Which is why you've been exhibiting these qualities for as long as I can remember and can never be cured of them.

At the end of the whole saga, we've come out we six flaws in the operating system:
1. Lack of the ability to cut and paste files/folders between drives.
2. Lack of support for the WMA format in iTunes.
3. The looks of the operating system aren't customisable by default.
4. No fullscreen option in QuickTime unless you buy the Pro version (what were they thinking!).
5. You can only resize windows from the lower right hand corner.
6. Is not very flexible with keyboard shortcuts.
 

eddie

El mooooo
max_demon said:
लिनुx और विन्डोज़ युज़र् । नोर्मली मैं लिनुx इस्तेमाल करता हुं । XP सिर्फ़् ऱ्&ढ् और Sओफ़्ट्wअरे इन्स्टाल् कर्ने के लीये . और कभी कभी टुन्न् होने की भी ज़रुरत पडटी है । (Wine):D:D

Vista सिर्फ़् Exपेरिमेन्ट् के लिय इन्स्टाल् कीया था ।
AFAIK the language of the forum is English. If every Indian starts to post in his/her regional language then this forum will become a mess. Time to change your style?
 

blackleopard92

In the zone
couldn't stop myself, so
aryayush said:
This guy is either officially a complete nutter or he has been used to using crap for so long, better things do not appeal to him now. Copying and pasting a file is easier than double clicking on it. Even a newbie can install a font on Mac OS X, not so on Windows. And more importantly, FontBook is a total blessing for doing all the font related tasks. Bleeagh, who have I indulged myself with!

rt click font and select install. easy.
double click to preview. How easy is that!

aryayush said:
Well, sensible people close the windows they do not need. People like you keep them open and then complain about them.
efficient people need to switch between windows as quickly as possible, rather than close and open them again and again
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
I will only Post to whats relevent.

aryayush said:
No, you cannot. Adobe CS3 comes with the option of using the Adobe Dialog so that you can preview your files. You cannot preview them in Explorer. And Adobe CS3 costs more than one lac.
Nor can you preview AVI and MPG files.
That would be Adobe Bridge.

Then what the hell M i doing :D by using the Photoshop Preview control in Windows Vista available at MSDN & Google search

:ROFL: Arya, look at that screenshot What do u think I m playing in that screenshot ? A HD Rip of Heroes Episode 18. That is a DivX AVI. Stop acting ignorent & lying when you have the proof in front of you.

Answer the question instead of behaving like a freak. Why do you need the address bar?
I find nevigating using the breadcrumb bar easy, also I can simply copy the address given in address bar & paste it in any "Open" Dialog to directly jump to that folder..1001 more reason which this forum is small to post.
You dragged the window below the dock and took a screenshot, loser. Show me a little video of you pressing the zoom button and the window goig below the level of the dock. (I know you will either say that you don't have time to do this and what not, or will ignore this now. I'm well accustomed to this defensive behaviour by now.)
Yes, & you deleted Windows files & then said Windows sux. Tell me a video capture utility for Mac & I will give u the video

2. Lack of support for the WMA format in iTunes.
Lack of support to play any audio format other then mp3 & mp4 in iTunes. Again, don't lie.

Who am I kidding here.

Good riddance. If you try to make a person sleep on a rosy bed who is used to sleeping on roads for too long, he will spurn at you and the bed. Go back to your dirtbag of an operating system and try to never show your face in these parts again.

awww....Pwned kya that your marketing attempt failed. :p

I say the same to you, Go back to your dirtbag of an operating system and try to never show your face in these parts again. Go back to your OS which runs only on a few selected hardware configuration, doesn't has the novelty of Wide hardware drivers support, doesn't have the novelty of games, doesn't have the novelty of proper keyboard shortcuts, doesn't have the novelty to customize the OS as the user wants to & be happy with it.

Here is an advice, you say MacOS X is good. Fine we admit. We say Vista is good. FIne now will u admit? I just gave so many reason why Mac sux which you didn't bothered considering. Like always in the end, plz use whatever you want, just don't rant about your product being the best when it is not.
 
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aryayush

aryayush

Aspiring Novelist
You keep saying that. Why not follow your own advice for a change? Let us see you stop ranting about Windows.

Anyway, I realise (and I admit I should have realised this a lot earlier and heeded the advice of some of the members here) that there really is no end to this and if a person can really use Mac OS X and still feel that Windows is superior, then there is something so fundamentally wrong with that person that I cannot even hope to fix it.

So, I am stopping this madness right this moment and the moderators might want to close the topic now (if they wish to). Unlike you, I am true to my word and you won't ever see me involving in these useless flame wars again (they are not exactly useless, but when a person like you is involved, they become useless).

As distasteful as this might be to certain users, I cannot honestly say that I did not enjoy it. Thanks to everyone for the audience!
 

gxsaurav

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Anyway, I realise (and I admit I should have realised this a lot earlier and heeded the advice of some of the members here) that there really is no end to this and if a person can really use Mac OS X and still feel that Windows is superior, then there is something so fundamentally wrong with that person that I cannot even hope to fix it.

:x & what does that supposed to mean. If some one doesn't like what you like, does that means he is an idiot ?

So, I am stopping this madness right this moment and the moderators might want to close the topic now (if they wish to). Unlike you, I am true to my word and you won't ever see me involving in these useless flame wars again (they are not exactly useless, but when a person like you is involved, they become useless).

When was the last time I started a thread praising Microsoft or some of there product or comparing there superiority to other product :rolleyes: Isn't it you who does it everytime & gets pwned. Wasen't it you who came in that MacOS X on PC thread & stared saying Vists sux, wasen't it you who started this thread or that "official apple discussion" thread.?
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
I enjoyed it.....but its bad to see ppl argue over operatin systems.....its a persons right to choose his os and be happy with wat u have and it also depends on the field of the person.....and not everyone can hv macs.....macs are cool,even windows is cool......and linux is the future i guess......there is nothin perfect...tats why new version of OS are made don't they...so the conclusion is its just waste of time......:smile:
Bro we know & we admit. We are neutral. We just don't like when a fanboy starts blaming Windows for no reason & doesn't agrees that his favoriot has some serious flaws.....when we even proved it here.

Hey boy, tell me something. At the end of the day who is enjoying the games, maximum ammount of 3rd party hardware support, 3rd party software support, running it on computer configuration of our choice :grin:, running it the way we want it (Default or disected), modding it the way we want it.

Arya once told me "mac has thousands of Application" & then gave a statement "Developers don't like making apps for Mac cos it already comes with a very good music player iTunes". Just read the shortcomings of iTunes above :D
 
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gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
I just tried iPhoto & damn does it sux. It is a good photo editor for minor retouching etc...but I got Adobe lightroom for Mac which littrally pwns iPhoto. Anyone willing to challange me on this is welcomed. I used everything i Could on iPhoto,,,& here are the shortcomings. It is the worst Photo Manager out there.

1) It copies your existing Photo graphs to a new iphoto library making 2 copies.

2) There is no folder based nevigation. I have my images put in folders like family, bike, Lucknow, etc but iPhoto has no folder based nevigation. It shows all photo's of year 2006 or 2007 or 2003. Comon, if I have to look for one photo which I know is in the folder "Lucknow" then how will I go there? I don't remember the nomenclature given by my Mobile phone cam.

3) One good thing is that I can make album like "Bike" containing all pics of my bike as virtual links. The pics still at there original location but they are now refered through this "Bike" album. Good but not good enough.

Even XNView running via X11 is better. Atleast it shows folder nevigation.

I have downloaded cross over for Mac. Well, so far 0 music players for Mac which play wma, although this even I would attribute to Microsoft, they should have relesed decoders for WMA 9 & 10 for Mac. Right now I m trying to run Winamp through emulation.

Going to try some iPhoto alternatives like Lightbox.

Just installed shapeshifter, & boy...does drak gray looks good. :D Using a skin by the name Uno...& it looks sweet on Mac. This is something where Mac pwns Windows XP. Too bad performance wise on my PC Vista runs better (obviously) & look much superb due to transparency & full screen desktop real estate usage.

*img382.imageshack.us/img382/391/unifiedskinmm0.th.png
 
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iMav

The Devil's Advocate
arya said:
At the end of the whole saga, we've come out we six flaws in the operating system:
1. Lack of the ability to cut and paste files/folders between drives.
2. Lack of support for the WMA format in iTunes.
3. The looks of the operating system aren't customisable by default.
4. No fullscreen option in QuickTime unless you buy the Pro version (what were they thinking!).
5. You can only resize windows from the lower right hand corner.
6. Is not very flexible with keyboard shortcuts.
from 2 it has come to 6 relax more are n transition
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
7th Flaw in MacOS X. The rate of finding flaws will be slow now.

7) MacOS has no meaningful & customisable Photo Manager. iPhoto relies on "Rolls" & Time line based nevigation which is good but doesn't appeal to all. There is no folder tree based nevigation in iPhoto nor you can activate it. (correct me if i m wrong).

The Windows Vista counterpart is Windows Photo gallery which doesn't provides much editing capabilities but it is made for photo management, & is good enough for fixing digital photos like red eye etc. It provides timeline, & folder based nevigation & you can also make virtual folders refering to some photos in your HD.

*img50.imageshack.us/img50/6802/photogallerywb7.th.jpg

The direct commercial competitor ACDSee on Windows beats iPhoto hands down in Image management & Editing. Any one willing to challange me, can try ACDSee 9 trial for 21 days easily & look for yourself why it is regarded as the best photo management application out there.

By the way, i uninstalled the applications I don't need in Mac, such as Mail, dashboard, itunes etc
 
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iMav

The Devil's Advocate
well another basics gone wrong in the mac ...

in windows right click and bang u have the option of creating varous types of new files under 'new' well in the mac there is nothing like that which means if u want to create any file u will have to open the application required to open that file and then create ... most frustrating for creating quick txt doc

all get in the mac is create a new folder :? .... how cool ... err... fool is tht

arya consider this the 8th its a genuine flaw

Offtopic: gx how vista black:?
 
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Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
iMav said:
in windows right click and bang u have the option of creating varous types of new files under 'new' well in the mac there is nothing like that which means if u want to create any file u will have to open the application required to open that file and then create ... most frustrating for creating quick txt doc
yeah , that's one hell of a problem , just too frustrating .
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
online by phone

imav & zeeshan, install npad or noted. These are the real text editors which Mac misses out. Textpad is good but saves as RTF.


To make a new file creation in Mac via right click menu use automater. But then again what is not there by default is not a feature. :).


Understand one thing, Mac UI is application centric while windows vista UI is task centric.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
mac has a txt editor which only opens when u open a txt file :? hain yeh santa wali baat
 

Desi-Tek.com

In the zone
# Date: 20070514
# Reference: CVE-2007-1531
# Description: Microsoft Windows Vista (SP0) dumps interfaces when
# it receives this ARP packet. This DoS is useful for an internet
# cafe, wireless venue, or legitimate local attack. The victim will
# need to manually refresh their network interface. OK, sure
# it's a dumb local attack, but why does Vista disable iface!?!??
*milw0rm.com/exploits/3926
 
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