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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
Software market is not hardware.
The cost of software remains the same from day 1 of release. However the cost of hardware comes down with time as development costs & production costs decrease. Just have a look at the price at which Zune or Intel C2D was available at launch & the cost for which it comes today.
Apple product on the other hand always over charge. Goobi, the real hardware cost is $220 per unit. Suppose I add another $220 to it which includes all research & development cost for this one unit, & assembling costs, royalty, licensing fees etc. That still results in $440 only.
Suppose I add a profit of $50 here (profit already there in $440), this still is $490, Apple is still overcharging $110 & they will charge the same for the next 5 years as iPhone is At&T exclusive for 5 years.
aam ka naam mat lo, malihabad bagal main hi hai
, I got 4 boxes of Mango at my home dacaying. I can't eat Mango juice in morning, mango pickle in evening, mango in afternoon & mango butter masala (imagination) in dinner.
The cost of software remains the same from day 1 of release. However the cost of hardware comes down with time as development costs & production costs decrease. Just have a look at the price at which Zune or Intel C2D was available at launch & the cost for which it comes today.
Apple product on the other hand always over charge. Goobi, the real hardware cost is $220 per unit. Suppose I add another $220 to it which includes all research & development cost for this one unit, & assembling costs, royalty, licensing fees etc. That still results in $440 only.
Suppose I add a profit of $50 here (profit already there in $440), this still is $490, Apple is still overcharging $110 & they will charge the same for the next 5 years as iPhone is At&T exclusive for 5 years.
aam ka naam mat lo, malihabad bagal main hi hai
, I got 4 boxes of Mango at my home dacaying. I can't eat Mango juice in morning, mango pickle in evening, mango in afternoon & mango butter masala (imagination) in dinner.
rockthegod
Dark Overlord !!!
Well, one thing common about all the iphone reviews out there... though as a phone it is much worse than any other out there, all the reviewers feels nearly the same about it..... a personal quote of Anand Lal Shimpi....
Read More here for an excellent persoanl review:
*www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3027
Read More here for an excellent persoanl review:
*www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3027
din
Tribal Boy
gx_saurav said:This just in....iPhone takes only $220 to manufacture the 8 GB Model.
Do we need any more proof that Apple extorts money from its customers
Hmm. All are in business for profit. MS, Apple and all.Do you think Digit mag cost Rs 125 or Rs 100 ?
If business people start selling things at the same rate as they manufacture, then whats their profit ?
Every product, may be hardware or software or anything, is sold for a profit, so I do not think there is any point comparing the manufacturing cost and selling cost.
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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
Every business is for profit, keeping this thing in mind just have a look at iPhone per unit.
Per unit for 8 GB model takes $220 to manufacture. I added 100% cost to it for the R&D costs, & everything else like licensing & royalty. Still it comes to be $440. This 100% cost included profit (the usual method of setting price of a product). Still Apple is charging more then what they should.
I even added $50 (which is a lot of money when it comes to profit margin per unit for an electronic device), still they are charging $110 more. Is this justified & ok?
Per unit for 8 GB model takes $220 to manufacture. I added 100% cost to it for the R&D costs, & everything else like licensing & royalty. Still it comes to be $440. This 100% cost included profit (the usual method of setting price of a product). Still Apple is charging more then what they should.
I even added $50 (which is a lot of money when it comes to profit margin per unit for an electronic device), still they are charging $110 more. Is this justified & ok?
din
Tribal Boy
gx_saurav said:
1. Not OK - Ethical point of view
2. 100% ok (may be 120% ok lol) at business point of view
It is business, so point 2 goes in !
Long back, I talked to one of my friends who was workin in Coca-Cola. Some one at management level. He was telling me the cost of one bottle of coco-cola is less than Rs 1 !!
Now at what price they sell it ? Rs 8 ? or 10 ? How much % they get from the customer ?
This is same for all companies. When you start a company, you will also do the same, if its me, then I will do the same (unless it is a non-profit organization or something of that sort lol)
gx_saurav said:
Hmm, I am not that sure. Win XP price is same now as it was on the day 1 of release ?
Offtopic : Reliance charge Rs 1500 per month for unlimited internet through their data card. BSNL charge max (including rental) Rs.400 - for the same service. So its like 1/3 rd !! We can't justify Reliance but Anil Ambani will very easily justify it lol
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gxsaurav
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I hope your example of Reliance and BSNL tells you that Reliance charges more then BSNL for same thing. Yes they are trying to make profit, but for this they are overcharging customers, is that right?
I am not trying to say, what I might do, or might not do. It is about whether Apple always overcharging for there products justified?
I am not trying to say, what I might do, or might not do. It is about whether Apple always overcharging for there products justified?
din
Tribal Boy
gx_saurav said:
Oh no, I think this time I diverted the thread lol. Sorry !
Regarding the price, at a cusomer point of view, no we can't justify it.
But this is the same thing all companies do, no exceptions. Microsoft, Apple all these big companies does that. All overcharge their customers and Apple is also doing the same. Can't say Apple is the only company that overcharge its customers.
Regarding BSNL, evenif we blame them for everything, their rates are good. Coz they are not private company. But the main thing for Reliance is - profit . Simple !
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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say.
Have a look at the profile & business methods of other phone companies in the same business as iPhone such as Nokia or SE. There is R&D, Royalty fees, licensing fees etc which even other companies pay but still despite of having more features then iPhone, the costs overall is lower then iPhone. The cost further reduces as time passes by. N95 when released in Lucknow was available for 35k, now it is for 30k.
Same way, Sansa E250 can now be bought for 4k.
However, despite of increased production & lower cost of manufacture iPod costs the same. The cost of Flash HD is lower then what it was 2 years ago, but still iPod Nano costs the same. Isn't this another example of Apple overcharging for there products? Shouldn't Apple reduce the costs over time.
Have a look at the profile & business methods of other phone companies in the same business as iPhone such as Nokia or SE. There is R&D, Royalty fees, licensing fees etc which even other companies pay but still despite of having more features then iPhone, the costs overall is lower then iPhone. The cost further reduces as time passes by. N95 when released in Lucknow was available for 35k, now it is for 30k.
Same way, Sansa E250 can now be bought for 4k.
However, despite of increased production & lower cost of manufacture iPod costs the same. The cost of Flash HD is lower then what it was 2 years ago, but still iPod Nano costs the same. Isn't this another example of Apple overcharging for there products? Shouldn't Apple reduce the costs over time.
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din said:
That's why I didn't do MBA
. It feels bad to loot people with business cheats.Also I didn't do MBBS. Because i don't belong to any reserved catagory and at the same time i am not extraordinaryly brilliant to make my place in the few remaining seats.
Similarly , I never thought joining politics as i don't have any politically strong precursor in my family to save me from years of 'chamchagiri' before i reach any respectable post.
And for similar reasons , I never tried to be a movie hero as my dad never did a leading role in any bollywood flick. All current gen Bollywood stars are sons/daughters of movie stars. Hritik, Abhishek, fardeen, sanjay dutt, Sunny, bobby, etc etc etc .
Also, i never tried to become xyz....... Are you still reading !!!!
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The other one
gx_saurav said:@ avatar
Abe tu hai kya phir
I am 'The One' .
Or maybe ' The Other One'
Ok i am tarey_g
, just having fun with new ID (I like Avatar the animated series 
) which i made after my exams completed. You,arya and even prakash no one has changed. Except andy, congrats for LSE. And what mav3 has become? gx!!!!
. everyone is enjoying (fighting) like before . Good times. Just don't hate each other because iphone is crap or Vista is way too overpriced and has Halo 2 crap game. No point in hating each other while Billy and El jobso are filling their bank accounts
.din said:
I am doing something (MCA)
. And ....... my ......... parents ......... love to kick me out.
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