The great Compression tool Battle! 7-Zip Vs WinRAR !!!
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djmykey
Let the music play.....
I use WinRAR it works wonders for me. But ppl I got a game Commandoes which is zipped using something its an .ACE file. Its zipped to the extent of 2% ie the zipped file is only 2% of the original (its only 1.11 MB the original is 111 MB). How is this possible. I dunno but any 1 has doubts i can shot it to u thru screenies.
swatkat
Technomancer
Actually only two compression formats surpass the UHA format.They are UDA and RK,softwares being WinUDA and WinRK.
WinUDA is a small, 20kb English Version, utility which has a simple GUI.It has 4 modes of compression which require 32MB,64MB,128MB,256MB RAM respectively to run smoothly.It gives good compression ratio than ACE,RAR,ZIP and even UHA but slightly lesser than RK.
So the real winner is RK format.
But the sore thing abouth these formats is that they are not supported by any 'popular' softwares.
But WinUHA,WinUDA and WinRK has an otpion to make SFX which solves the portabality problem.
WinUDA is a small, 20kb English Version, utility which has a simple GUI.It has 4 modes of compression which require 32MB,64MB,128MB,256MB RAM respectively to run smoothly.It gives good compression ratio than ACE,RAR,ZIP and even UHA but slightly lesser than RK.
So the real winner is RK format.
But the sore thing abouth these formats is that they are not supported by any 'popular' softwares.
But WinUHA,WinUDA and WinRK has an otpion to make SFX which solves the portabality problem.
Werner Bergmans
Right off the assembly line
swatkat said:
UDA is just a PAQ clone with a GUI. For the best possible compression just have a look at *www.maximumcompression.com/
cooljeba
The Photoshop Guy
Ashis said:cooljeba said:Ashis said:
he he u jokingpurchasing
what's dat
BTW my fav winrar anytime
..:: peace ::..
Jeba
Yea Yea :roll:
I was an Idiot
well what i meant was if u got da bucks u must buy to support the author. kangal people like me take support of piracy it's as simple as dat
..:: peace ::..
Jeba
koolbluez
Šupər♂ - 超人
WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR
It's da best...pause
Not only good compression... i like it's easy iconing ability for makin exe files.
WinRAR Guys... small doubt... how do u make the icons or pics come in the unpackin window too.. instead of WinRAR's logo
*img48.exs.cx/img48/7897/winrar0nu.jpg
Need 2 know it urgently yaar... REPLY AT THIS POST
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=119631#119631
It's da best...pause
Not only good compression... i like it's easy iconing ability for makin exe files.
WinRAR Guys... small doubt... how do u make the icons or pics come in the unpackin window too.. instead of WinRAR's logo
*img48.exs.cx/img48/7897/winrar0nu.jpg
Need 2 know it urgently yaar... REPLY AT THIS POST
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=119631#119631
gamefreak14
Journeyman
Yes I'm sure he meant those 1700 plugins in a 1.1 MB file....Compress the same using UHARC and it'll fit in <1 MB!! The compression ratio is over a 100%!!
Thor
Ambassador of Buzz
Hate To Dig up an Old Topic. But I know People will hate it more If I start a new topic for the same reason. I did a comparison Test of sort on my PC. Intel Celeron 1 GHz, 256 MB SD RAM, WinXP SP2.
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7z V/S Rar V/S Zip V/S UHA
Used the following :
1 .7-Zip 4.15 beta [Ultra Compression - Solid Archive]
2 .WinRAR 3.5 beta 6[Best Compression -Solid Archive]
3 .WinZip 9.0 [Maximum Compression (enhance deflate) ]
4a.WinUHA 2.0 RC1 [ALZ(3) Best][Priority Normal]
4b.WinUHA 2.0 RC1 [PPM (Best-text Optimized)][Priority Normal]
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Format : Compression Format -> [Compressed Size] [Time Taken]
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7.48 MB of Html,Htm,Mht,Txt,Zip [77 files].
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1 . 7z -> 2.73 MB 41 sec
2 . rar -> 2.78 MB 15 sec
3 . zip -> 3.10 MB 11 sec
4a. uha -> 2.73 MB 41 sec
4b. uha -> 2.73 MB 40 sec
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12.2 MB of SWf files [12 files]
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1 . 7z -> 10.0 MB 35 sec
2 . rar -> 10.1 MB 26 sec
3 . zip -> 11.7 MB 13 sec
4a. uha -> 10.4 MB 98 sec
4b. uha -> 10.5 MB 163 sec
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10 MB of PDF Files [14 Fles]
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1 . 7z -> 6.47 MB 52 sec
2 . rar -> 5.39 MB 16 sec
3 . zip -> 6.72 MB 9 sec
4a. uha -> 6.49 MB 75 sec
4b. uha -> 6.44 MB 107 sec
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10 MB Html file (PHP Manual)
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1 . 7z -> 1.16 MB 68 sec
2 . rar -> 991 KB 11 sec
3 . zip -> 1.55 MB 6 sec
4a. uha -> 1.23 MB 55 sec
4b. uha -> 935 KB 20 sec
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10 MB PDF files (14 files), 5 MB HTML files (226 files), 6 MB DOC Files (101 Files), 6 MB of JPG files (100 Files) =27 MB
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1 . 7z -> 13.5 MB 673 sec
2 . rar -> 13.3 MB 62 sec
3 . zip -> 15.7 MB 16 sec
4a. uha -> 13.4 MB 193 sec
4b. uha -> 13.0 MB 264 sec
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21 MB of Image Files (JPG,TIFF,BMP,GIF)
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1 . 7z -> 15...MB 771 sec and Counting... *img138.imageshack.us/img138/1540/7ztime4rj.gif
2 . rar -> 17.6 MB 53 sec
3 . zip -> 17.8 MB 16 sec
4a. uha -> 17.42MB 165 sec
4b. uha -> 17.4 MB 290 sec
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Conclusion :
7z : New Format, Better than zip only in compression time, compression ratio better than RAR on only couple of occasions, VERY VERY SLOW, Only suitable 4 Small files <10MB.
zip: Most Commonly used , widely supported [compatibily], Fastest Compression and acceptable compression
rar: Not Free, Excellent Compression, Little slower than Zip, but way faster than 7z and uha. RAR looses out to uha in compression ratio in ->Image Compression, TXT compressions (eg:mht,htm,html,doc,txt..). But Loads better in Compression time.
uha:Free, NEW format, seems betterthan RAR in common formats [IMAGE,TXT..].Looses out in PDF,SWF formats.But takes longer time in compression of large files >10 MB.
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If time is a factor then RAR gives the best compression /time factor.
If Compression is what u want in Common files like IMAGE/TXT/.. use uha [ With PPM (Best text Optimized)enabled]
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7z V/S Rar V/S Zip V/S UHA
Used the following :
1 .7-Zip 4.15 beta [Ultra Compression - Solid Archive]
2 .WinRAR 3.5 beta 6[Best Compression -Solid Archive]
3 .WinZip 9.0 [Maximum Compression (enhance deflate) ]
4a.WinUHA 2.0 RC1 [ALZ(3) Best][Priority Normal]
4b.WinUHA 2.0 RC1 [PPM (Best-text Optimized)][Priority Normal]
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Format : Compression Format -> [Compressed Size] [Time Taken]
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7.48 MB of Html,Htm,Mht,Txt,Zip [77 files].
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1 . 7z -> 2.73 MB 41 sec
2 . rar -> 2.78 MB 15 sec
3 . zip -> 3.10 MB 11 sec
4a. uha -> 2.73 MB 41 sec
4b. uha -> 2.73 MB 40 sec
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12.2 MB of SWf files [12 files]
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1 . 7z -> 10.0 MB 35 sec
2 . rar -> 10.1 MB 26 sec
3 . zip -> 11.7 MB 13 sec
4a. uha -> 10.4 MB 98 sec
4b. uha -> 10.5 MB 163 sec
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10 MB of PDF Files [14 Fles]
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1 . 7z -> 6.47 MB 52 sec
2 . rar -> 5.39 MB 16 sec
3 . zip -> 6.72 MB 9 sec
4a. uha -> 6.49 MB 75 sec
4b. uha -> 6.44 MB 107 sec
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10 MB Html file (PHP Manual)
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1 . 7z -> 1.16 MB 68 sec
2 . rar -> 991 KB 11 sec
3 . zip -> 1.55 MB 6 sec
4a. uha -> 1.23 MB 55 sec
4b. uha -> 935 KB 20 sec
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10 MB PDF files (14 files), 5 MB HTML files (226 files), 6 MB DOC Files (101 Files), 6 MB of JPG files (100 Files) =27 MB
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1 . 7z -> 13.5 MB 673 sec
2 . rar -> 13.3 MB 62 sec
3 . zip -> 15.7 MB 16 sec
4a. uha -> 13.4 MB 193 sec
4b. uha -> 13.0 MB 264 sec
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21 MB of Image Files (JPG,TIFF,BMP,GIF)
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1 . 7z -> 15...MB 771 sec and Counting... *img138.imageshack.us/img138/1540/7ztime4rj.gif
2 . rar -> 17.6 MB 53 sec
3 . zip -> 17.8 MB 16 sec
4a. uha -> 17.42MB 165 sec
4b. uha -> 17.4 MB 290 sec
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Conclusion :
7z : New Format, Better than zip only in compression time, compression ratio better than RAR on only couple of occasions, VERY VERY SLOW, Only suitable 4 Small files <10MB.
zip: Most Commonly used , widely supported [compatibily], Fastest Compression and acceptable compression
rar: Not Free, Excellent Compression, Little slower than Zip, but way faster than 7z and uha. RAR looses out to uha in compression ratio in ->Image Compression, TXT compressions (eg:mht,htm,html,doc,txt..). But Loads better in Compression time.
uha:Free, NEW format, seems betterthan RAR in common formats [IMAGE,TXT..].Looses out in PDF,SWF formats.But takes longer time in compression of large files >10 MB.
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If time is a factor then RAR gives the best compression /time factor.
If Compression is what u want in Common files like IMAGE/TXT/.. use uha [ With PPM (Best text Optimized)enabled]
koolbluez
Šupər♂ - 超人
WinRAR is the best... forgetting the price concerns....
The best thing I like in it is... the interface & icon can be made easily in WinRAR executible files... which i didn't find in other compression sw... winzip ok...
7Zip I tried... but it stood no chance on features as compared to WinRAR...
Way to go WinRAR...
(...And Ashish... the 40 Days Love Affair(Trial Period) is worth taking with WinRAR)
The best thing I like in it is... the interface & icon can be made easily in WinRAR executible files... which i didn't find in other compression sw... winzip ok...
7Zip I tried... but it stood no chance on features as compared to WinRAR...
Way to go WinRAR...
(...And Ashish... the 40 Days Love Affair(Trial Period) is worth taking with WinRAR)
QwertyManiac
Commander in Chief
hey guys , the season of zip, rar , 7z s are over
LHA is here to stay
visit powerarchiver.com and download a trial and try the lha compression
by the way, i have a retail copy of WINRar and i love it too
but lha is in beta stage anyway , like uha
LHA is here to stay
visit powerarchiver.com and download a trial and try the lha compression
by the way, i have a retail copy of WINRar and i love it too
but lha is in beta stage anyway , like uha
parthbarot
In the zone
winrar winrar winrar winrar winrar winrar winrar winrar...........
in india y people is so intellignet bcs they get pirated softies.thats y they learn all the languages and packages and softies...
so no one gonna buy winrar while he can get cracks...from many sites....i shldn't mention here....
regards
in india y people is so intellignet bcs they get pirated softies.thats y they learn all the languages and packages and softies...
so no one gonna buy winrar while he can get cracks...from many sites....i shldn't mention here....
regards
Using variable dictionary sizes is great when you are compressing project files which change from version to version IE version control. For example, You have games for US, Japan, EU, Asia etc and only a few things change in it. RAR for example would compress something to 40Megs, 7ZIP using 8MB dictionary size compresses it to 13MB. Yes RAR compression is twice as large.
As an example I took doom64, the Nintendo 64 version of doom for all the world markets each file is like 8megs in size (each 16 meg ROM is split into 2 files of 8 megs each). There is 1 file 16 megs in size which is not split up. So total of 8 files of 8megs and 1 of 16 megs. 7ZIP would compress this down to just over 8 megs in size. RAR would compress it down to 40 megs. Still down from the 83 megs originally...
So nothing beats it for version control. RAR does have variable dictionary sizes but nothing like 7Zip... This would work wonders for releasing different versions of the same program as well. So you can have many variations of the operating system or utilities etc. Like manybe 6 versions of Linux that fit on 1 cd.... I have to check to see if it will take 6 individually compressed files and do the same thing or not.
As an example I took doom64, the Nintendo 64 version of doom for all the world markets each file is like 8megs in size (each 16 meg ROM is split into 2 files of 8 megs each). There is 1 file 16 megs in size which is not split up. So total of 8 files of 8megs and 1 of 16 megs. 7ZIP would compress this down to just over 8 megs in size. RAR would compress it down to 40 megs. Still down from the 83 megs originally...
So nothing beats it for version control. RAR does have variable dictionary sizes but nothing like 7Zip... This would work wonders for releasing different versions of the same program as well. So you can have many variations of the operating system or utilities etc. Like manybe 6 versions of Linux that fit on 1 cd.... I have to check to see if it will take 6 individually compressed files and do the same thing or not.
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