should we attack on pak...........?????????

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pr.itdude

pr.itdude

tHe nEw gEEk......ITian
yup.......!! thats really the problem in India....
specialised forces commandos are treated like as servants.............!!
how do they protect us or even thinking of doing that.....???:mad:
the mumbai policemen event though dont have a firing range......!!
almost 60 % constables didnt even picked a rifle since their posting....!!
(media sources...!!!)
 

threeonethree

Journeyman
india needs many more attacks on its cities and parliament to fully wake up.
i think india is fully responsible for the terrorist attacts on its cities. It failed miserably to act tackle pakistan diplomatically, and when it was attacted it failed again to tackle the terrorists..


but i am against killing of innocents
 

iNFiNiTE

The cake is a lie!!!
@vasanth.kingofthehill:

Thats what I have been trying to say, strengthening our internal security should be our first priority to protect the innocent lives. Speeding up defence deals, modernizing the police should be the need of the hour.

Providing security cover to politicians in Delhi alone requires spending a sizeable chunk of taxpayer's money. According to a report, around 30% of these politicians don't even require security cover, they just use it as a status symbol. Another 50% are being provided with more than necessary cover. Those who can afford should pay for their own security.

Apart from the news headings which you gave, there have been one which said that Bomb squad and some commondo units in UP are being used to control Traffic !!! WTF.
 
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pr.itdude

pr.itdude

tHe nEw gEEk......ITian
really WTF..........!!!
they're not gonna to understand that.............!!!
nothing will change....!!! and this is the reality.....!!
<i am afraid, but i hav to say that......>
sorry guys, i am making a pessimistic statement here.......!! but truth is bitter....!! :(
As soon as media get a new issue to flash on "breaking news"......they all will forgot this....!!!
they r also just making money out of it..........!!!
 

mrintech

Technomancer
When all you all the truths. So why discussing???

No war gonna happen or no war initiative will be taken. Remember there are always countries and organizations ready to suppress these kind of situations. ;)

A single attack will bring Third World War and we all and Digit servers will be destroyed ;)

Phir kaun/kab/kahan/kaise discussion hoga ;)
 
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pr.itdude

pr.itdude

tHe nEw gEEk......ITian
so is this end of this discussion with these quotes.........??
nothing will change....!!! and this is the reality.....!!
<i am afraid, but i hav to say that......>
sorry guys, i am making a pessimistic statement here.......!! but truth is bitter....!! :(
As soon as media get a new issue to flash on "breaking news"......they all will forgot this....!!!
they r also just making money out of it..........!!!

No war gonna happen or no war initiative will be taken. Remember there are always countries and organizations ready to suppress these kind of situations. ;)
A single attack will bring Third World War and we all and Digit servers will be destroyed ;)
.......

india will always remain gandhian INDIA where only talks happen...........
no action........ :(
 
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Ecstasy

a.k.a VipER
Today Pak defense minister announced that there won't be any use of nuclear weapons if a war is to happen. Honestly, I don't trust their any saying.

A war is likely to happen and I also think it should happen cause we all know that Pakistan had been making promises since decades about fighting terrorism and other **** but nothing has come out of it except for false promises. So this time i really feel India should take matters in their own hands and destroy their terrorist camps.

But, we should also keep this thing in our mind that even they are not a weak country in terms of military power cause US has been aiding them since years and years. I also heard that the LeT commander has given out an announcement that they will fight along with the Pakistan military to defend their nation and he also said that they got their 'thousands' of suicide bombers ready if need be. So it will be a great loss to us also if war happens. I guess in the end only time will tell us what will happen...

Till then lets hope for the best.
 

Plasma_Snake

Indidiot
Arrey if War happens than Terrorists will join Pak against India and they'll probably use the nuke and both Pak Army and Govt. will say that we didn't do it! Limey B@$t@rds.
 

Mystic

wise one
Arrey if War happens than Terrorists will join Pak against India and they'll probably use the nuke and both Pak Army and Govt. will say that we didn't do it! Limey B@$t@rds.

Taliban? They would also send suicide bomber army through some ways to India. :|
 

The_Devil_Himself

die blizzard die! D3?
ok,first thing first-WAR IS NEVER A SOLUTION,NEVER!

Wars are not what we have been reading on our history books,ok we have 6k soldiers and you have just 2k,we are gonna own joo ass!.Its the age of nukes and missiles,It doesn't matter how big your army is and what fighter planes you have.Had this been a conventional war scenario,India would have taken over whole of pakistan in about a week,owing to technical superiority of our air force.But thats not the point.

Indian nuke button is in civilian hands and we have the famous 'no first strike',pakistan on the other hand has its nuke button completely into army's hands(who care about the president?).

Pakistan has nothing to loose at this point of time,they know they have the WMD and it will take real guts(and idiocy) for any country to attack it.Economically pak. is dead,while India is still thriving at this time of global recession.What do you think is gonna happen to India in case of a war?Back to stone age with nothing to eat or wear.

Now,if you have been following news,when pranab mukherjee said "we will take unilateral actions if pakistan doesn't act inspite of world pressure",their defense minister swiftly replied "god forbid if we have to use nuke".lol,thats blunt and hard!

I guess you people don't realize whats a nuke war is gonna be like,no sun for dont know how many years or even decades,various kinds of cancers,no clean water to drink among the major consequencies.

go watch "how I learnt to stop worrying about the bomb and start living" or something like that movie,it truly depicts how the nuke warfare logic works,the hell if you attack,the hell if you don't.

if a war happens?India attacks pakistan--->pakistan uses nukes eventually(most of them would be distroyed by indian air force already,but not all)--->most prominent Indian cities and states gone--->pakistan burns to ashes in minutes--->95% fo all people die--->wee! china has been waiting,they take over all whats left--->US clears whats left of taliban and afganistan-->US and China make marry--India and pakistan are wiped off the face of the worldmap.

what could possibly be done in this situation?
1.Internal security and Intelligence?I mean come on poeple,10 amateur(they actually believed they can make it out!) noobs travelled thousands of miles and attacked the heart of a major city with grenades and ak47,just imagine how many potential barriers they crossed and no one had any clue..

2.Support Pakistani democracy.Pakistani govt. is not our foe,our foe are some extremist religious elements and the out of control pakistani army,let the democracy cycle for 10-15 years,good people will come up and hopefully things would be better.There is no such thing like control and law right now in pakistan and democracy is sure addictive as hell.

3.fair media.Lately Indian TV media has been worse than Pakistani media,all they feed people is utter BS most of this is just 'lol'able.Most people are what they see,and that is the sad part.Zombies they have become,especially pakistani masses owing to all the BS they have been fed right from their birth.

Its just amazing how can you make poeple kill(and die) others on the name of religion and country.Soldiers returning from war are the biggest supporters of peace and non-violence.

and as a general observation : support for war is directly proportional to distance from the warplace and inversely to the chances of you getting involved in it.US people\govt. are most likely to say "go India,**** Pakistan",but its our land that the war will be fought.

I still believe,both the countries can live peacefully.I strongly doubt if pakistani govt. knew about the attacks or had any hand in it,nor do I think its the ISI or army's handiwork.Its all a bunch of religious manipulators and some thousand of brainwashed people,which all can be dealt with amicably by both countries which would be in the best interests of both countries.

as for pakistan,they should really work towards strengthening their economy,mommy US is providing alms as long as they need them,stop spending billions on armed forces.Nobody cares about how many nukes you have when most your population is hungry.

amen,and OH btw!i wouldn't know about the war anyways,I would be dead before the next day papers circulate(in case they do).Better than suffering from the nuke aftermath.:<
 
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pr.itdude

pr.itdude

tHe nEw gEEk......ITian
i was offline since morning and had no plan to be online......!!(as my xms r going on!)
But since i heard the news of pakistan sena taking position at the indian border, at badhmare in rajasthan being precise...........i decided to restart this thread in which v were disscussing abt the situation of war........!!:evil:

But the other digitians have already posted, thats very gud..........
The BSF chief recently said that pakistan force "the pak sena" have been deployed on the rajasthan border, instead of pak rangers. This indicates that they were all set for the war......!!
And continuing the word war b/w ind-pak, the Air force chief (i dont remember the rank of officer, so im saying chief..) said "hum sirf 4 ghante me pakistan ko sabak sikha sakte hai". According to news sources, indian air force had almost 5000 targets in their mind where to attack directly if pak shows any notorious movement.:rolleyes:

Here we discussed all the effects n side effects of war........:mad:
but now the situations seems that the war cant be ignored...
And the most imp thing is that, pak is now putting pressure on india by deploying there forces on border signifying not to threat them, they r ready if ind talks anything abt war.

But the fact is that ......Ye kaam hame karna chahiye tha taki pak par aur pressure dal sake, lekin pak humse 1 kadam age nikla and deployed their forces........Earlier pak fighter air craft also seen flying over the pak cities showing their preparedness of war......!!:mad:

Source : Breaking News on all news channel
 

gaurav_indian

CG Artist
I read a report few days ago.Incase of war pakistan will lose their skies within a week to indian jets.It looks as if they have decided they wont accept that kasab is a pakistani.Their media did a sting operation and it proved kasab is from pakistan yet these dumba***** are doing nothing.:mad:All these jaahils from pakistan who are becoming terrorists should look what happened to these 10 terrorists.Noone is ready to take their dead bodies.Even pakistan denies that they are not pakistani what a shame.
Allah ki panah mein chale thay na zameen naseeb hogi na aasmaan toh allah ki panaah kahan se milegi?:confused:Inke toh kafan tak humein leke dene parte hai.;)
 

afonofa

Journeyman
Our government’s policy of restraint should not be viewed as an act of cowardice.

- pakistani information minister Sherry Rehman
The comments made by pakistani govt. officials reek of hypocrisy. Who has been excercising restraint and trying to bridge the divide all these years, India or pakistan? :rolleyes:

Yesterday I saw part of a video of pakistani president saying something like "...finally we have got this muslim nation and we will not give it up till the last drop of blood..."

I think it was just day before yesterday, when 3 terrorists were arrested in J&K - 2 were jaish-e-mohammed irregulars and one is a pakistani army regular. So irrespective of what pakistani govt. says, they will never stop promoting terrorism against India. J&K issue is only an excuse, not supporting terrorism goes against their true motives - disintegration of India. We shouldn't give them the luxury of that excuse.

We cannot even be sure pakistan has nuclear weapons which can be actually used in a war. Even if they do, today pakistan only has a first strike nuclear capability through their land based missiles and their F-16 fighter jets. These can be neutralized to a large extent(if not completely) by the IAF or through properly coordinated covert operations. Tomorrow when they acquire submarine launched ballistic missiles and maybe a nuclear submarine, it will give them a virtually guaranteed second strike capability. Then it will be too late for India to take absolutely any military action.

It may already be too late for India to do so. Just look at Israel, their airforce has already been reported to be preparing for air strikes to cripple Iran's nuclear programme. There is no way Israel would ever allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons. If our politicians had any foresight, they would have destroyed pakistan's first nuclear reactor during the time china was helping to build it. Our politicians gave into the threat and fear of tit-for-tat pakistani air strikes on existing Indian nuclear reactors and ever since we are suffering because of that show of cowardice.

It's not as if India and pakistan have assembled their nukes and armed their missiles. If that happens, then you know that mahavinaash(armageddon) is right around the corner.

Deploying Indian troops forward like last time, costs a lot of money and the GOI is not sure whether they want to pursue the military option or not. So atleast the GOI is saving some money if not face :rolleyes:. Let pakistan spend their money, flying F-16's over their own cities. If their fighters are to be flying anywhere then it should have been close to the border and not displaying acrobatic maneuvers over their own cities. From the video of those fighters its clear that they are only putting on a show for the people below and are not really training defensive missions. There was even a video of an F-16 from the cockpit of another jet, its wingman. Which fighter pilot carries a video camera and shoots videos, if on training missions?

I don't understand why the GOI says "all options are on the table" and the next day they say "we will not pursue the military option". pakistan's stance has changed considerably, going from being defensive to offensive, from the time India indicated that it is most likely to not pursue the military option. Our news channels are equally bad if not worse. In the immediate aftermath of the terrorist attack, they were calling for military action and now when pakistan has upped the ante, our news channels are focusing on why there is so much war hysteria in pakistan.

Only silver lining is the pakistani defense minister being even more foolish by saying that there won't be any use of nuclear weapons in the event of war. A case of India batting badly and the opposition batting even worse :D.

pakistan did not even accept the bodies of soldiers of the pakistani army who were killed masqerading as kashmiri militants during the kargil conflict. There was no question of pakistan ever accepting the bodies of those 9 terrorists who were killed. The longer those bodies are in India, the more the chances of them being buried on India soil :mad:. I say since we must not allow them to be buried on Indian soil and if pakistan is not willing to accept those bodies, then the only alternative is to give them a burial at sea because that's where they came from. And NO! It does not have to be an honourable burial in any sense of the term. No need to prolong the decision on those terrorist's bodies and give a chance for pakistani propaganda to turn them into martyrs, like that terrorist involved in the attack on the Indian Parliament(who still has not been hanged).
 

Plasma_Snake

Indidiot
Let Pakistan run around chasing its own tail, we'll just keep our guard up and continue with our lives. First, if somebody finds Manmohan's pair please do return it to him if u r expecting some action from him.
 

kanishka

In the books..Studying
Dont india have any patriot missiles for nukes??

Also if war takes place than India would be in bigger loss than pakistan since India is one of the fastest developing country and undoubtedly after nukes it would take more than 50 years to regain its position and till that time there will be many new threats like China.Who knows that if they progress very fast than they wont attack us..Always remember,India is the biggest rival of China in every aspect.There was a report of UN body indicating that in 2025 China will be at top followed by India and then US...Attacking is not the solution at all...If and ever India want to reach the top 3 in world then they must avoid conflict and wars...We must pressurise pakistan to act and even ask international communities like UN to force pakistan to act against terrorism and they should even allow India to act..We have to just enter the scenario and take responsibility ourselves..We have to strengthen our internal security..'Also remember Jungle mein ek chingari hi aag lagane ke liye kafi hoti hai'..We must act and now the time is appropriate..People who really want something to change than they have to change themselves...Remember "Charity Begins at Home"..Goverment must also take proper steps so that people can be safe...I read in newspaper that normally in country there should be 600 policemen for 100k people but in India it is only 200 something

It is hilarious as we see that..Anyways even young generation can enter politics and change the corruption inside it..There are many options apart from war to solve this problem..
 
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pr.itdude

pr.itdude

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ya we all here, infact no indian wants war..........and we have showed that bcoz if we would have wanted any scenario like that then indian would have done it.....its a month now....!!!

But what if pak as we r seeing now, trying to attack on us........??they r making war like situation so that the indian pressure gets diverted........
Dont india have any patriot missiles for nukes??

Also if war takes place than India would be in bigger loss than pakistan

See,if india got 50% loss, then pak will no more b a country........it will be a bankrupt nation that will b under talibanis control......!!! Our economy is more stronger than pak.......also pak is more affected by economic recession,,,,,and we r least......so we can recover it......!!
i am not saying that we will attack first, but if they do..... then this tym, we should get our PoK atleast free from them..........!!
 

nix

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@afonofa... do you think the US would allow china to control pakistan's N weapons??
 
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