The Sorcerer
oh wow...Xenforo!!!
Doing sli on a 20 inch screen? O RLY??
Take a look at hx650, assuming you will "SLI/CF". vx550 takes the cake otherwise. Just keep one thin in mind, don't buy keep future in mind because you wouldn't really know what would happen. There's no way telling where there would be new power supply standards for future components- processor, motherboard, graphic cards. If you see certain high end x58 boards, they alone come with 2x EPS connectors. Not that I am saying this would be a standard for sure- but as an example.
More sophisticated a tech goes, more sensitive it becomes to power ripples and such favours & when such factors come into play newer standards are released. There's no such thing as futureproof. You either move along with the time or its just waste of time. JM2C.
Take a look at hx650, assuming you will "SLI/CF". vx550 takes the cake otherwise. Just keep one thin in mind, don't buy keep future in mind because you wouldn't really know what would happen. There's no way telling where there would be new power supply standards for future components- processor, motherboard, graphic cards. If you see certain high end x58 boards, they alone come with 2x EPS connectors. Not that I am saying this would be a standard for sure- but as an example.
More sophisticated a tech goes, more sensitive it becomes to power ripples and such favours & when such factors come into play newer standards are released. There's no such thing as futureproof. You either move along with the time or its just waste of time. JM2C.
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
rightly told there.
OP
r4gs
In the zone
20inch screen? my dear chap, company of heroes gives me stuttering fps at 1600x900, crysis gives me 26, batman aa gives me between 20 and 60, dirt 2 gives me 26. all this without aa, some af and everything else usually at max on my older gtx260. i don't think you really have an idea how heavy physx is on a system. granted an upgrade to a better processor will improve performance, but it will fall short very fast.
you are right about the future upgrades thing. i am not buying the psu till at least jan. but once i buy it it has to last a while. its not like i have an unlimited budget.
considering that, as you said, power requirements will keep changing, i suppose i'll have to just get the best possible upgrade i can and stick with it as long as possible.
i do notice that asigh is running a 4890xfire setup on a 650tx. i do believe the 4890 is very power hungry.
i don't think i need anything more powerful than that considering my requirements.
you are right about the future upgrades thing. i am not buying the psu till at least jan. but once i buy it it has to last a while. its not like i have an unlimited budget.
considering that, as you said, power requirements will keep changing, i suppose i'll have to just get the best possible upgrade i can and stick with it as long as possible.
i do notice that asigh is running a 4890xfire setup on a 650tx. i do believe the 4890 is very power hungry.
i don't think i need anything more powerful than that considering my requirements.
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The Sorcerer
oh wow...Xenforo!!!
Rest assured, I have a fairly good idea. Stuttering can happen because of many issues. You are better off localizing on that issue.
No point in asking now is it? Corsair just released their new entry level psu lineups, its been a while AX series was introduced. You're buying in january therefore its best to take advice roughly a week before purchases.
considering that, as you said, power requirements will keep changing, i suppose i'll have to just get the best possible upgrade i can and stick with it as long as possible.
Its consumes less than 4870 and a single 4870 does well with a e7200+ whatever board with this card. Again, you wouldn't really need more than 650w (a proper one) unit, assuming you are going to SLI.
OP
r4gs
In the zone
check the time stamps. this thread stopped a while back. It was restarted by venkat and i just went with the flow.
The 4890 consumes less power than the 4870 eh? never knew that. didn't bother to check.
Still, as you say, i suppose the 650 should be sufficient.
Also, stuttering stops when i turn off physx. Batman AA gives me a min of 60fps when i turn off physx.
COH and Crysis need a more powerful processor. probably the same with Dirt 2.
Cryostasis, almost double the frame rate with physx off. Ditto Bad Company 2.
I did notice that there was a marked improvement in performance with faster ram as well (about 5-10fps). I'm assuming an upgrade to an i7 or AMD equivalent with DDR3 should give me a marked improvement across the board.
Still, an extra card for physx wouldn't hurt. Especially considering the performance hit when it is enabled.
asingh
Aspiring Novelist
@r4gs:
As The Sorcerer has mentioned, stuttering does not happen due to a weak GPU. It has to be some other issue. Highly probable it is a driver issue.
Also going multi-GPU on a 20" is not going to do much good to the dual accelerators. They really shine if the resolution is >= 1080pi. Believe me here. I used Xfire for a month on 19", the 2nd card used to do jack.
January purchase, it is too early to decide yet. You could narrow down on CPU / board..if you will change. By the way, which motherboard you have..?
Also your GTX275 should be giving you higher FPS in Crysis. What setting you using, are your drivers (Forceware) latest..?
As The Sorcerer has mentioned, stuttering does not happen due to a weak GPU. It has to be some other issue. Highly probable it is a driver issue.
Also going multi-GPU on a 20" is not going to do much good to the dual accelerators. They really shine if the resolution is >= 1080pi. Believe me here. I used Xfire for a month on 19", the 2nd card used to do jack.
January purchase, it is too early to decide yet. You could narrow down on CPU / board..if you will change. By the way, which motherboard you have..?
Also your GTX275 should be giving you higher FPS in Crysis. What setting you using, are your drivers (Forceware) latest..?
asingh
Aspiring Novelist
check the time stamps. this thread stopped a while back. It was restarted by venkat and i just went with the flow.
The 4890 consumes less power than the 4870 eh? never knew that. didn't bother to check.
Still, as you say, i suppose the 650 should be sufficient.
Also, stuttering stops when i turn off physx. Batman AA gives me a min of 60fps when i turn off physx.
COH and Crysis need a more powerful processor. probably the same with Dirt 2.
Cryostasis, almost double the frame rate with physx off. Ditto Bad Company 2.
I did notice that there was a marked improvement in performance with faster ram as well (about 5-10fps). I'm assuming an upgrade to an i7 or AMD equivalent with DDR3 should give me a marked improvement across the board.
Still, an extra card for physx wouldn't hurt. Especially considering the performance hit when it is enabled.
Yes, the 4870 and 4890 cores had different designs, making the final 4890 more power efficient. This was/is a lovely card. ATI never releases a similar one for their 58xx series. By the way, if you will SLI/CF on E7400 you will need to get it at least upto 3.8Ghz. I initially had that CPU and 24x7 ran it at 4.0 Ghz.
Sorry, street slang. I mean it did nothing. Hardly processed.
OP
r4gs
In the zone
whoa guys slow down!
Please read the posts again.
1) this thread stopped a month back. It was restarted and i just went with it.
2) I'm only buying a PSU and HDD in Jan. No g card, no proccessor, no RAM, no mobo.
3) G. card and other upgrades are all for later. Much later. 6 months easily. Maybe even a year.
4) Stuttering was only in COH, that too the demo. My mistake, forgot to specify that.
5) 26fps was on the 260, not the 275. All of the above FPS specified is on the 260, except for Dirt2, which was on a borrowed 275.
6) when I finally get an sli, i probably will get a better panel, especially as I'm already getting dead pixels on the current one.
7) Mobo is an ASUS g31. Some board with surge protection. Bought it when my mobo and PSU got fried. It doesn't have SLI, its an el-cheapo g31.
Bottomline, I just need a PSU which will last me a while, I'm getting it in Jan or Feb and I will consult the forum before purchase. As of now, the 650 is a very strong contender.
Please read the posts again.
1) this thread stopped a month back. It was restarted and i just went with it.
2) I'm only buying a PSU and HDD in Jan. No g card, no proccessor, no RAM, no mobo.
3) G. card and other upgrades are all for later. Much later. 6 months easily. Maybe even a year.
4) Stuttering was only in COH, that too the demo. My mistake, forgot to specify that.
5) 26fps was on the 260, not the 275. All of the above FPS specified is on the 260, except for Dirt2, which was on a borrowed 275.
6) when I finally get an sli, i probably will get a better panel, especially as I'm already getting dead pixels on the current one.
7) Mobo is an ASUS g31. Some board with surge protection. Bought it when my mobo and PSU got fried. It doesn't have SLI, its an el-cheapo g31.
Bottomline, I just need a PSU which will last me a while, I'm getting it in Jan or Feb and I will consult the forum before purchase. As of now, the 650 is a very strong contender.
pegasus
Journeyman
What's your budget, again?
The new HX series with blue labels have 7 years warranty (except HX1000).
As a sidenote,
The HX750, based on specs. efficiency, etc seems like the new PSU of choice for the discerning user just as the HX620 was when it was launched-
a solid PSU that mostly won't need upgrading unless the user goes ballistic with his upgrades.
The new HX series with blue labels have 7 years warranty (except HX1000).
As a sidenote,
The HX750, based on specs. efficiency, etc seems like the new PSU of choice for the discerning user just as the HX620 was when it was launched-
a solid PSU that mostly won't need upgrading unless the user goes ballistic with his upgrades.
The Sorcerer
oh wow...Xenforo!!!
You don't need to. Corsair released GS version and AFAIK they are better than CX series. So if you're a gamer who isn't that serious overclocks, 600w of the GS series is adequate. The pricing depends on the great distributors but seeing the current price drop on the vx series, it should come in a decent price.
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
also released another series. forgotten the name. as i heard its cheaper & will offer more VFM than the current lineup (maybe pointing to the VX series).
if you mean the "builder" series, its cheap,but aint that good. They have an efficiency of "upto" 80% and are slightly overrated (wattage wise).
coderunknown
Retired Forum Mod
yup. builder series. whats the pricing here (estimated)?
The Sorcerer
oh wow...Xenforo!!!
The quality on the newer VX, HX and TX series has dropped for some time now. Seen fewer units and a reliable source concurs.
animesh_aga
Right off the assembly line
corsair vs seasonic lol...
actually, for its status as a quality PSU supplier, corsair owes a lot to seasonic. The latter is the undisputed king from tech perspective but lacks in marketing n support and corsair just does that job, excellently. it does not manufacture any PSU on its own (some models are custom built). Corsair also sources PSUs from CWT, another reputed manufacturer. Their PSH and DSG models are excellent but against seasonic, sorry.. better luck next time.
So I'd say whichever unit you buy, from Corsair or seasonic or antec, first make sure that it is a 'seasonic inside' PSU, then choose depending on price/warranty/availability stuff.
To know the original manufacturer of PSU, refer to *whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers
Though I'm late by ages, may this help other buyers.
actually, for its status as a quality PSU supplier, corsair owes a lot to seasonic. The latter is the undisputed king from tech perspective but lacks in marketing n support and corsair just does that job, excellently. it does not manufacture any PSU on its own (some models are custom built). Corsair also sources PSUs from CWT, another reputed manufacturer. Their PSH and DSG models are excellent but against seasonic, sorry.. better luck next time.
So I'd say whichever unit you buy, from Corsair or seasonic or antec, first make sure that it is a 'seasonic inside' PSU, then choose depending on price/warranty/availability stuff.
To know the original manufacturer of PSU, refer to *whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers
Though I'm late by ages, may this help other buyers.
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