phenom II x4 955be < intel dual core ??!

vickybat

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^^ No, never do that. They are still expensive and 1156 is an obsolete platform with no future processor support. Stick with 1155 if you want intel processor.

Else get the 955be if you want a cheap quadcore along with a 880 based board that has AM3+ CPU support as well ( bulldozer).

But i will suggest 1155 platform now and going for the i5 2400.
 
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karthik316_1999

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vickybat said:
^^ No, never do that. They are still expensive and 1156 is an obsolete platform with no future processor support. Stick with 1155 if you want intel processor.
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Thanks for responding Vicky.. I really don't mind if 1156 is obsolete as long as I can get an 1156 CPU (preferably an i5) + mobo within max of 10 - 11 k. Is that too much to ask for ?

Else get the 955be if you want a cheap quadcore along with a 880 based board that has AM3+ CPU support as well ( bulldozer) But i will suggest 1155 platform now and going for the i5 2400.
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Bulldozer vs i5 2400.. which is more likely to win ?
 
skeletor

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Phenom II X4 955BE >>>> Intel Dual Core.

Core i3-2100 is slightly faster and much efficient than Phenom II X4 955 BE in games. Some might prefer Phenom II X4 for true 4 cores and faster video encoding + rendering.

Next time use right and perfect words in the thread title. ;) Hardware is all about being specific and to the point.

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karthik316_1999 said:
Bulldozer vs i5 2400.. which is more likely to win ?
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We will know after a month or two. I'd say, go for i5-2400 now. You can't go wrong.
 
Cilus

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No not possible. And why you want 1156 platform? In time of next upgrade you have to throw out both the CPU and motherboard then. But if you go with 1155 based Intel or AM3 based AMD mobo with Am3+ support, in future you can just upgrade the processor with Sandybridge-E series or Bulldozer series CPU respectively.
 
vickybat

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karthik316_1999 said:
A first gen i5 + mobo for 10 - 11 k not possible at all ?
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Intel does not drop prices like amd. The i5 760 is still retailing around 9-10k even though better performing i5 2300 and i5 2400 are retailing for same or lower prices.

i5 2400 is now retailing @ 9.3k or even lower.
 
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karthik316_1999

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Okay, now that I've realized Intel is out of reach for a poor guy like me..
Was looking at this unlockable CPU thread
What Unlocks? -> The "Unlockable" CPU reference list - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

AMD Athlon II x4 640 unlocks to a Phenom II x6 .. hmmm..

So, does that mean AMD Athlon II x4 640 would be a better choice than the 955be ?
 
skeletor

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No, Athlon II X4 640 won't unlock to Phenom II X6. It was only for that particular very rare batch if it's true.

Just go with i3-2100.
 
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karthik316_1999

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Fine... but i'm not finding any am3+ compatible mobo in asus ..
ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards

Too bad.. i'd been looking in the US version of the website until now.. n shortlisted the
M5A78L_LE

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS M5A78L LE so, these am3+ mobo's haven't reached india yet..?
 
Cilus

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For Asus, only their high end AM3 mobos will support AM3+ CPUs, mainly based on 890GX and 890FX based motherboards. For the lower end chipset like 880, 870, 780 etc, they are releasing completely different version of the motherboards with M5A prefix. The M5A78LE is basically Am3+ version of M4A78LE with the capability to handle higher power requirements of Bulldozer CPU.
 
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karthik316_1999

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Okay.. but it is not available in india.. is it ? the whole point of opting the 955be & am3+ mobo over an i3 sandy & 1155 socket is no more !

Plus.. I read this somewhere.. !

. AM3+ is a dead socket and being replaced by FM2 for Bulldozer Enhanced in 7 months (is it so ????)
. P67 Motherboards support Ivy Bridge processors
. P67 mobo /I3 2100 < AM3+ mobo /X4 955 in terms of cost
. I3 2100 is better in games (atleast for now, where games dont recognize the actual 4 cores)

Now, the scenario changes a lot !
 
skeletor

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err dude, why are you being so paranoid?

First and the foremost, no one pairs i3-2100 with a P67 motherboard. People pair it with H67 motherboard. P67 is for overclocking and i3-2100 is a non-overclockable processor. A good H67 motherboard which I feel is worthy of purchase costs 5.5k. There are el cheapo H61 chipset motherboards too available for 3.5k but I don't like them so I rarely/never recommend them.

Second, games DO recognize 4 cores. All the latest games are very well multi-threaded.

Best for you would be waiting if you want to. Just wait for mainstream 970G chipset AM3+ motherboards to arrive. They haven't arrived yet and will arrive along with Bulldozer. Currently, only high end 990FX AM3+ motherboards are available.

yes, from what I believe, AMD will be ditching AM3+ in favour of FMx - for Fusion APU. They have maintained backwards compatibility since a loong time if you ask me. Fair enough if they do so although they might not do so and release a simple CPU. No one can knows what AMD might do and no one knows what Intel might do. Intel might have a change of mind and get a new socket for Ivy Bridge. I also remember a time when people were expecting Sandy Bridge for LGA 1156 and the Core i* processors for LGA 775. Just buy the best what you can buy now or after 2 months.

I say, just go for i3-2100 + H67 and be done with it if you want to buy now. Don't bother with X4 955 BE.
 
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karthik316_1999

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If upgrading to an i5/i7 2+ yrs down the line or the ivy bridge 4+yrs down the line.. an investment with the p67 chipset rather than a h67 is wise, right ?
(That is assuming the i5/i7/ivy bridge CPU's would be OC'able)
 
skeletor

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karthik316_1999 said:
If upgrading to an i5/i7 2+ yrs down the line or the ivy bridge 4+yrs down the line.. an investment with the p67 chipset rather than a h67 is wise, right ?
(That is assuming the i5/i7/ivy bridge CPU's would be OC'able)
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With H67 you can use Quick Sync to encode H.264 videos but can't overclock. With P67 you can overclock but not use Quick Sync to encode videos.

Z68 = H67 + P67. You can do both. Z68 is expensive.

Now Intel likes unnecessary confusion. Earlier, we didn't even have overclockable and non-overclockable distinctions ("K") for Intel processors. (i5-2500 and i5-2500k)

You want to get P67? Get it. It is you who has to decide. I can only give you facts and can't really comment whether it is wise or not.
 
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