PC Buying Guide - March 2011

[Jaskanwar Singh]

so can yopu list the prices of all corsair ssds so as to compare with callisto deluxe?

 

[vickybat]

@ topgear

Buddy don't you think CL7 rams will benefit AMD processors more than intel because the latter responds to high memory bandwidth due to more efficient memory controller whereas the former to lower cas latency.

In the comparo all of them were intel processors.

 

[ithehappy]

@ ithehappy

Hmm, inverter is okay but i still suggest you to go for a 1kv ups specifically for your system as the inverter might be powering other components in your house. Try getting your hands on an APC 1000VA UPS for around 5k and you are good to go. The belkin surge protector is great for preventing voltage spike so use that too to connect multiple devices.

Actually I went all out to buy my system. So a 5k more will anger my parents more. BTW- Can't I use my old D-Link Ups? It's Model no is- DGU 600ML. It is of 600VA/360W. I used that UPS for 2 years for my old rig but when the assemblers said that with my new rig that UPS will get fused and it will have some sparkle all over the place, I was so scared and I detached the UPS.
Thanks in advance and Regards.

 

[vickybat]

@ ithehappy

That ups is underpowered for your current rig. Continue your usage as it is. When you upgrade your gpu, buy a new ups at the same time.

@ jaskanwar singh

Jas here are your corsair ssd prices:

1.Corsair Force 2.5" 60GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 7.8k
2.Corsair Force 2.5" 40GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 5.9k
3. Corsair Force 2.5" 120GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 12.9k

Source

 

[ithehappy]

@ ithehappy

That ups is underpowered for your current rig. Continue your usage as it is. When you upgrade your gpu, buy a new ups at the same time.

Okay, Thanks. Is 1000VA UPS the minimum needed for my rig?

 

[vickybat]

That will be the safest bet.

 

[rajan1311]

That will be the safest bet.

Why 1kVA bro? even something like a 850VA is more than enough...i run my rig on a 500VA,been almost 3 years now..

 

[vickybat]

@ rajan1311

850va will do but there is not much price difference between 850 and 1000va. Also a good quality ups like APC and Numeric should be the priority.

By the way rajan, how much back up time are you getting? My apc 500va was giving me some 20 secs backup so switched to an apc 650va which is giving around 15mins & with surge protection.

 

[rajan1311]

i got around 2min , but that more than enough for me, got 24x7 backup at my place...

how much is the 1KVA one?

 

[vickybat]

Around 4.5 - 5k.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

vicky i think you told me long ago you will get ups prices!!?

 

[vickybat]

Sorry for the delay JAS. Anyways here are your prices:

1.APC 600 va @ 1.8k
2.APC 650 va @ 2.6k
3.APC 1KVA (ES SERIES) @ 5.7k
4.APC 1.1KVA(BR SERIES) @ 4.5K
5.APC 1.5KVA (BR SERIES) @ 9.3K

Got these quotes from computerwarehouse bengaluru. Cilus is currently in his hometown(kolkata). He will confirm the prices tomorrow or the day after.

Check these ssd prices too:

1.Corsair Force 2.5" 60GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 7.8k
2.Corsair Force 2.5" 40GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 5.9k
3. Corsair Force 2.5" 120GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 12.9k

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

what about 800 or 850va?

 

[vickybat]

@ jaskanwar

Buddy 800 or 850 va were not listed because of their prices being close to their 1kva counterparts. Nonetheless i will contact cilus tommorow and get the prices and confirm the rest.

 

[rajan1311]

computerwarehouse is rather expensive (me frm bengaluru,so i know) , prices should be even lower at other places. Thanks vicky!

 

[v_joy]

i have a query
For a low end HTPC what is AMD's alternative for
INTEL i3 540 (3.06GHz) @ 4500
+
GIGABYTE H55M-S2 OR ASUS E7H55M-LX @ 3300

I mean cpu, mobo combo from AMD's side that can generate more juice, less heat and electricity and still be cheaper.

Additional info:
GPU: Ati HD5670 1GB
RAM: kingston 2GB DDR3
Monitor: Full HD TV

Purpose: watch HD bluray rips, gaming (nfs hot pursuit, split second), downloading.

 

[ithehappy]

Sorry for the delay JAS. Anyways here are your prices:

1.APC 600 va @ 1.8k
2.APC 650 va @ 2.6k
3.APC 1KVA (ES SERIES) @ 5.7k
4.APC 1.1KVA(BR SERIES) @ 4.5K
5.APC 1.5KVA (BR SERIES) @ 9.3K

Got these quotes from computerwarehouse bengaluru. Cilus is currently in his hometown(kolkata). He will confirm the prices tomorrow or the day after.

Check these ssd prices too:

1.Corsair Force 2.5" 60GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 7.8k
2.Corsair Force 2.5" 40GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 5.9k
3. Corsair Force 2.5" 120GB SATA 2 MLC Internal Solid State Drive @ 12.9k

Many thanks for quoting the prices. Is there any price diff between Intel and Corsair SSD's?

 

[topgear]

@ topgear

Buddy don't you think CL7 rams will benefit AMD processors more than intel because the latter responds to high memory bandwidth due to more efficient memory controller whereas the former to lower cas latency.

In the comparo all of them were intel processors.

those ram suggestion was for intel core i7 based 120k rig.

In case of amd the performance difference is also negligible and don't worth the premium you pay for low latency modules in gaming - not synthetic benches - Games require a powerful gpu more than low latency mem modules IMO. Here's why :

Cpu : AMD Phenom II X4 955

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And if we consider real world apps :

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All images are courtesy of toms hardware

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so how much performance you are gaining by switching to lower latency modules ? Do you really think the performance worth the premium you pay for it.

And here's what's they have concluded :

the performance benefit delivered just by the main memory is typically small, making premium memory a must-have primarily for the affluent enthusiast market-only.

Our results show that faster memory and quicker timings both introduce performance advantages that are mostly visible in synthetic benchmarks, while the impact on real-life performance usually is small. Games benefit just a little, and you need applications that intensively tax the memory to find serious performance benefits.

We couldn’t resist doing one more benchmark run at a slightly overclocked processor clock speed, which serves as a great example in the event that you decide to spend extra money on a faster processor rather than on premium memory. Overclocking the Phenom II X4 955 from 3.2 to 3.4 GHz results in a hypothetical Phenom II X4 965 at 3.4 GHz, which we might see some day. We used the slow DDR3-800 memory setup to show that a processor speed bump can actually do much more than any upgrade in memory speed.

Source

 

[vickybat]

@ topgear

Ok buddy completely satisfied. Really not worth the premium. Actually in real world apps higher frequency modules with high cas latency are achieving top honours.

Thanks again for the info.

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

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Note - This thread is not meant for PC Buying Advices. This is just for

reference.



Contributions, Suggestions By -
Cilus
TOPGEAR
Sorcerer
Vickybat




Note - The options at second place are to be considered if you dont want the specific

brand of cpu.



Sub 20k (Best for office work,movies,downloading)

Spoiler

AMD Athlon II x2 255 @ 3k
Asus M4A78LT-M LE @ 2.6k
Corsair VS2GB1333D3 2GB @ 1.2k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
FSP saga II 350W @ 1.5k
Zebronics Bijli w/o psu @ 1.1k
Benq G922HDL 18.5" @ 5.7k
TVS Champ Keyboard @ 0.2k
Basic Optical Mouse @ 0.1k
APC 600VA @ 1.8k
Creative SBS A35 - 2.0 @ 0.4k

Total - 20.2k

Intel Option -

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5500 @ 3k
Gigabyte GA-G41M-Combo @ 2.6k

Total - 20.2k

Sub 35k (Entry level gaming,multi media)

Spoiler

AMD Athlon II x4 640 @ 5k
Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H @ 4.5k
Corsair VS2GB1333D3 2GB @ 1.2k
Sapphire HD5770 VAPOR-X @ 7.5k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
FSP saga II 500W @ 2.1k
CM Elite 310 @ 1.5k
DELL IN2020M @ 6.5k
Logitech 3 Button Scroll @ 0.3k
Logitech KB-200 @ 0.4k
APC 650VA @ 2.6k
Logitech Z313 @ 1.4k

Total - 35.6k

Intel Option -

Intel Core i3 540 @ 5k
MSI H55M-E33 @ 4.5k

Total - 35.6k

Sub 50k (Mid range gaming)

Spoiler

Intel Core i5 760 @ 9.2k
Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 @ 6.4k
Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 2*2GB @ 2.9k
Sapphire HD6850 TOXIC @ 11.2k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair VX450W @ 3.5k
NZXT GAMMA @ 2k
Benq G2220HD @ 7.3k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.2k
Logitech KB-200 @ 0.4k
APC 800VA @ 3.5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 52k

AMD Option -

AMD Phenom II x4 955BE @ 6.7k
Asrock 890GX Extreme3 @ 7.2k

Total - 50.3k

Sub 70k (Mid range gaming)

Spoiler

Intel Core i5 760 @ 9.2k
Gigabyte GA P55M UD2 @ 6.4k
CM Hyper 212+ @ 1.8k
Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 2*2GB @ 2.9k
Sapphire HD6870 @ 13.6k
Seagate ITB 7200.12 @ 2.8k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
CM 690 II Plus @ 5k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 @ 1k
APC 800VA @ 3.5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 69.2k

AMD Option -

AMD Phenom II x6 1055t @ 8.3k
Asrock 890GX Extreme3 @ 7.2k

Total - 69.1k

Sub 85k (High end gaming with SLI/Crossfire)

Spoiler

Intel Core i5 760 @ 9.2k
Gigabyte GA P55A UD4P @ 11.5k
CM Hyper 212+ @ 1.8k
Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 2*2GB @ 2.9k
Sapphire HD6850 TOXIC * 2 @ 22.4k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 1.7k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair TX750W @ 6.6k
CM 690 II Plus @ 5k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 @ 1k
APC 1000VA @ 5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 85.4k

AMD Option -

AMD Phenom II x6 1075t @ 9.3k
Gigabyte GA 890FXA UD5 @ 10.5k

Total - 84.5k

Sub 85k (High end gaming without SLI/Crossfire)

Spoiler

Intel Core i5 760 @ 9.2k
Gigabyte GA P55A UD4P @ 11.5k
CM Hyper 212+ @ 1.8k
Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 2*2GB @ 2.9k
HIS Radeon HD6970 @ 22.5k / MSI GTX570 @ 22k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.8K
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7K
CM 690 II Plus @ 5k
DELL U2311H Ultrasharp @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 @ 1k
APC 1000VA @ 5k
Altec Lansing VS2621 @ 1.6k

Total - 83.8k

AMD Option -

AMD Phenom II x6 1090t @ 11k
Gigabyte GA 890FXA UD5 @ 10.5k

Total - 84.6k

Sub 100k (High End Gaming with SLI/Crossfire)

Spoiler

AMD Phenom II x6 1090t @ 11k
Gigabyte GA 890FXA UD5 @ 10.5k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
G.Skill F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM (2Gx2) @ 4.7k
Sapphire HD6870 * 2 @ 27.2K
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.8k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair TX750W @ 6.6k
CM Storm Scout @ 6.2k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
APC 1000VA @ 5K
Altec Lansing VS4121 @ 2.9k

Total - 99.6k

Intel Option -

Intel Core i7 950 @ 13.3k
ASUS Sabertooth X58 @ 11.5k
Corsair CMX6GX3M3A1600C9 3*2GB @ 4.5k
Zotac GTX460 AMP! * 2 @ 25K

Total - 100.5K

Sub 100k (High End Gaming without SLI/Crossfire)

Spoiler

AMD Phenom II x6 1090t @ 11k
Gigabyte GA 890FXA UD5 @ 10.5k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
G.Skill F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM (2Gx2) @ 4.7k
MSI GTX580 @ 28K
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.8k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair TX750W @ 6.6k
CM Storm Scout @ 6.2k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
APC 1000VA @ 5K
Altec Lansing VS4121 @ 2.9k

Total - 100.4k

Intel Option -

Intel Core i7 950 @ 13.3k
ASUS Sabertooth X58 @ 11.5k
Corsair CMX6GX3M3A1600C9 3*2GB @ 4.5k
HIS Radeon HD6970 @ 22.5k / MSI GTX570 @ 22k

Total - 98k

Sub 120k (High End Gaming with SLI/Crossfire)

Spoiler

Intel Core i7 950 @ 14.3k
ASUS Sabertooth X58 @ 11.5k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
Corsair CMX6GX3M3A1600C9 3*2GB @ 4.5k
MSI HD6950 * 2 @ 35K
Corsair Force 60GB SSD @ 8k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.8k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair HX750W @ 8.5k
CM Storm Scout @ 6.2k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
APC 1000VA @ 5K
Altec Lansing VS4121 @ 2.9k

Total - 121.4K

AMD Option -

AMD Phenom II x6 1090t @ 11k
Gigabyte GA 890FXA UD5 @ 10.5k
Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 2*4GB @ 6.2k

Total - 118.8k

Sub 120k (High End Gaming without SLI/Crossfire)

Spoiler

Intel Core i7 950 @ 14.3k
ASUS Sabertooth X58 @ 11.5k
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 @ 3.8k
Corsair CMX6GX3M3A1600C9 3*2GB @ 4.5k
Zotac GTX580 AMP! @ 33K
Corsair Force 60GB SSD @ 8k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.8k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair HX750W @ 8.5k
CM Storm Scout @ 6.2k
DELL Ultrasharp U2311H @ 13.7k
Razer Death Adder @ 2.1k
Razer Arctosa @ 2.2k
APC 1000VA @ 5K
Altec Lansing VS4121 @ 2.9k

Total - 119.4K

AMD Option -

AMD Phenom II x6 1090t @ 11k
Gigabyte GA 890FXA UD5 @ 10.5k
Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 2*4GB @ 6.2k

Total - 116.8k