What?
What?
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Obvious isn't it?
*i.imgur.com/VlJtK.jpg
It's a minus because it takes screen space as compared to the N9.
sygeek
Technomancer
Well, I'd have to agree with you here. It lacks in terms of hardware. It's because WP is pretty limited at the moment with mango (doesn't support dual-core, some bluetooth limitations). Fortunately, it's going to change in 2012.
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Sarath
iDota
So the Nokia Lumia 800 is priced at 29,999 INR
Do you think people will get this phone over Galaxy S2 ?
Yes. People who want to try mango and especially the Nokia tag. Instantly you get good battery life, reliability and camera in mind.
I believe battery life may (WILL) be the USP of WP against android, and with Nokia, its certainly going to be better, if not now, then sooner.
"Jab tak samose me aaloo rahega, India me nokia rahega"
Though at least secondary cam must not have been removed. It entirely(nearly) voids purpose of investing so much in a phone.
"Jab tak samose me aaloo rahega, India me nokia rahega"
Though at least secondary cam must not have been removed. It entirely(nearly) voids purpose of investing so much in a phone.
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
You can chose your handset in WP7 unlike the iPhone.
And how the hell is it a *clone* of iOS if it has different UI?
Most people don't care about the 'restrictions' in all anyway, and WP7 targets them well there.
you really are what your name suggests aren't you?
There is hardly any similarity in the codebase of IOS and WP.
There are restrictions just like any OS, and those minimum specs have to be complied with for optimal performance of the software inside.
the only reason why there is a vast price range of android devices is that android is a barebones package and so it has s lower minimum requirements.
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Er no.
The only reason for vast price range of Android devices that it is open source, and can be freely used.
WP7 on the other hand is restricted to very limited range of hardware.
On what kind of hardware and how?
You got it wrong. Android phones are cheap because android has lower minimum specs requirement. How much does a license on WP add to the cost?About 10% per phone?
Android is a barebones package. You should not be having disagreement there. Because it is a barebones package, you can have hefty customization (being open source also helps).
According to your argument even Symbian^3 should be as cheap as android because it is also open source. But I have yet to see an S^3 (belle and anna) phone that costs below 12k.
MS has placed restrictions only on the mimimum specs range. The sky is the upper end-limit.
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
I am NOT talking of cheap. Free is in terms of Freedom. Freedom to customize the OS and implement in your own device. (And cost will play a part too, but not much.)
As for barebones package, that's not exactly true. It's a modular design plus open source, which helps in customization. There's nothing called "barebones" package and certainly Android OS will not qualify as a "barebones" OS.
Symbian is barely adopted by manufacturers, it's a dead man walking. Poor comparison. And get your facts right, Symbian Belle is not exactly an "Open Source" OS.
And recheck your assertion on the restrictions. WP7 is not exactly "works for all but low-end specs". Being proprietary and having MSFT-induced restrictions on top will always end up with it being in a low range of devices.
Look at the part in quotes below.What does that statement say?
If you are going to talk about price range, and say "freely used" as in freedom, and not price then the two parts of your sentence have no connection.
Yes it is. The company implementing the OS has to design the interactive portion of the OS.
By barebones I mean that it comes with everything you need to set it up, but you have to do a major portin of the work in designing the look and feel of the OS (UI being the primary part of that).
You're correct. After Symbian 3 PR 1.0 it became shared-source. But in a way, Android is not open-source also. You have the freedom to open it up, customize the OS in any way you want, but unless certain requirements are met you cannot call it Android (none of the custom OS makers can if I am not mistaken, because they do not make devices).
:shrug:
Windows Phone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What other restrictions were you speaking of?
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Your quotes are mixed up. Fix that first., putting the name to quotes will help.
It's like saying Ubuntu is a "bare bones" OS, since there are derivatives which change the desktop environment to anything like Gnome Shell or KDE.
Android being "bare bones" has nothing to do with it. Nothing.
And yeah stop bringing irrelevant stuff (Symbian? Seriously?) in this thread, or the FUD like "you have to do a major portin of the work in designing the look and feel of the OS (UI being the primary part of that)". Thanks.
Companies don't have to do a *major* portion of designing for the look and feel of Android OS. I suppose you know there's something like stock Android.Extreme Gamer said:
It's like saying Ubuntu is a "bare bones" OS, since there are derivatives which change the desktop environment to anything like Gnome Shell or KDE.
Exactly, you can customize Android in any way and distribute it like you do with Cyanogen or any of the device ROMs. You cannot do that with Symbian. Hence your comparison is invalid.
Yes it does. "Vast price range" was your quote. It was simply being described that due to Android being open source, its freedom to customize, and the freedom to implement in any device, henceforth it has the great number of handsets and thus is being shipped with a large number of devices in a wide price range.
Android being "bare bones" has nothing to do with it. Nothing.
You've exactly listed the restrictions with a WP7 device which I'm talking about.
And yeah stop bringing irrelevant stuff (Symbian? Seriously?) in this thread, or the FUD like "you have to do a major portin of the work in designing the look and feel of the OS (UI being the primary part of that)". Thanks.
Isn't it too much to ask for? I mean this is not supposed to be called min requirements anyway. Is win 8 so heavy? I heard its very flexible and versatile.
I do, and it has no proper GUI (my brother works with the Android SDK when he has free time).
Those restrictions highlight my point about "minimum specs." If the above specs are followed exactly, the phones should only cost ~15k.
Terms and Conditions | symbian.nokia.com
You can use and modify it non-commercially. But you cant try to reap benefits from it.
This is WP 7.5 and not Win 8. No it is not too much. Its not low but its not high either.
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Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Yeah rightExtreme Gamer said:
Jog on mate.
It is up to you to believe me or not believe me.
EDIT: Looks like it was a mix-up of terms. I was referring to the UI overlay as GUI. My bad.
EDIT: Looks like it was a mix-up of terms. I was referring to the UI overlay as GUI. My bad.
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reniarahim1
Youngling
i was planning to take lumia 800 but the price is somewat on a higher side. now i will wait for the next gen of nokia-windows phones.