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[Xeno]

You mean they are fake??? anyway point is to the OP go out and venture I am sure he will get CM elite cabbie and a 350-400 CM original PSU under 4.5 which is not bad at all.....

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+1 ....maybe it wont blow but could definately reduce the life of the equipment if rated amps are not supplied.....

No they aren't fake, they just arent worth for the money that's going to be spent on them. They are better than the el-cheapo PSU's but not worth the 2k...

the Real Power Pro series is the one to go for ^^ prices start from 3.5k (for the RPP 460W)

 

[pulsar_swift]

Guys,
You are giving too many options for the PSU.
Here is the list which i was re-searching on. Sort in their order of preference
Gigabyte Superb 460W - Rs 2200
Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W SMPS - Rs 2200
FSP Saga II 400 Watts - Rs 2100
Corsair PSU-400CX - Rs 3100
Coolermaster Real Power Pro 460W - Rs 3535
Corsair CMPSU-450VX - Rs 3990

From your comments Gigabyte Superb 460W is overrated, so we will strike it off.

How about this one ? Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W - Efficiency of 80% that makes it 460*0.8= 368W

FSP Saga II 400 Watts, give your comments on this one ? Here also efficiency is 80%.

And coming to other PSUs > Rs 3000. I don't see a reason going for them unless one is going to use a graphics card.

 

[happy20b]

Wow .. nice to see so many comments and debates for psu and caby

Now im bit more confused with this .. please make sure 2 points

a] i am not going to buy any graphics card in future ... even if i get one i dont mind changing the PSU at that time..

b] I am planing to over clock builtin graphics crad and proc .. And those should get sufficent power and cooler


Yesterday i went to SP road bangalore .. i couldnt go to many stores but enquired in shops .. the price J.K technologies quoted was


CM ELITE 310 1.8k ( almost al shop same price)
bijli 1.5k
Asus m4a785td-v evo 6.3k ( no other shop offered below 6.6k)
AMD A II x4 630 4.7k .. yes 630 not 620
2gb ddr3 2.6k
500gn WD 2.2k
lg dvd 0.9k
Apc 550v 1.75k
dell st2210 9k


unfortunately none of them were worid about PSU .. i asked about SAGA , cm elite they couldnt get its price.. il go again tomaro .. and check

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Guys,
You are giving too many options for the PSU.
Here is the list which i was re-searching on. Sort in their order of preference
Gigabyte Superb 460W - Rs 2200
Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W SMPS - Rs 2200
FSP Saga II 400 Watts - Rs 2100
Corsair PSU-400CX - Rs 3100
Coolermaster Real Power Pro 460W - Rs 3535
Corsair CMPSU-450VX - Rs 3990

From your comments Gigabyte Superb 460W is overrated, so we will strike it off.

How about this one ? Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W - Efficiency of 80% that makes it 460*0.8= 368W

FSP Saga II 400 Watts, give your comments on this one ? Here also efficiency is 80%.

And coming to other PSUs > Rs 3000. I don't see a reason going for them unless one is going to use a graphics card.

thanks .. let see what others say

 

[coderunknown]

Guys,
You are giving too many options for the PSU.
Here is the list which i was re-searching on. Sort in their order of preference
Gigabyte Superb 460W - Rs 2200
Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W SMPS - Rs 2200
FSP Saga II 400 Watts - Rs 2100
Corsair PSU-400CX - Rs 3100
Coolermaster Real Power Pro 460W - Rs 3535
Corsair CMPSU-450VX - Rs 3990

From your comments Gigabyte Superb 460W is overrated, so we will strike it off.

How about this one ? Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W - Efficiency of 80% that makes it 460*0.8= 368W

FSP Saga II 400 Watts, give your comments on this one ? Here also efficiency is 80%.

And coming to other PSUs > Rs 3000. I don't see a reason going for them unless one is going to use a graphics card.

anyone who don't own a graphics card. but think of adding a low-midrange card should opt for FSP Saga II 400W. its a good PSU with 80% efficiency. but if possible best is Seasonic 380W as its below 3k.

No they aren't fake, they just arent worth for the money that's going to be spent on them. They are better than the el-cheapo PSU's but not worth the 2k...

the Real Power Pro series is the one to go for ^^ prices start from 3.5k (for the RPP 460W)

+1. very good point.

You mean they are fake??? anyway point is to the OP go out and venture I am sure he will get CM elite cabbie and a 350-400 CM original PSU under 4.5 which is not bad at all.....


+1 ....maybe it wont blow but could definately reduce the life of the equipment if rated amps are not supplied.....

CM originals include the CM Extreme Power PSU which are famous for going *BOOM*. & the bundled PSU with the Elites are Xtreme Powers only.

yah, if graphics card not added they won't blew up but they wil give lower than needed currents.

I quoted the price from PrimeABGB from Mumbai. I still recommend going for the Seasonic if you are really strap on budget.

Just imagine, one gets a cheap PSU. After sometime it blows up taking away your motherboard & making bad sectors on your HDD. Not to forget, veing not even 80% efficient you will spend more on electricity bills. It then makes a lot of sense to get the Seasonic or CX400.

at least FSP or VIP PSU's won't blow up, hope so. if graphics card not added. they are 80% certified. FSP is true 80% certified, though not know about VIP & Zebronics pro series. should be about 70-75%. but efficiency is not only thing to look after. the internal components should also be watched out. look for reviews. if review not available, check customer review in NewEgg.

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Avoide Bijli for just 300 bucks you are gettinga far better cabbie. and for PSU choose corsair 400CX if you can extend your budget a little bit, which I would suggest else choose any one between FSP Saga II 400 Watts and Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W.

yah, avoid bijli. its woth the money but when the cooling need is more Biji just not upto the mark.

CX400W is just too much for a system with no graphics card. FSP 400W wil handle everything well. even if Op adds graphics card in future.

Wow .. nice to see so many comments and debates for psu and caby

Now im bit more confused with this .. please make sure 2 points

a] i am not going to buy any graphics card in future ... even if i get one i dont mind changing the PSU at that time..

b] I am planing to over clock builtin graphics crad and proc .. And those should get sufficent power and cooler


Yesterday i went to SP road bangalore .. i couldnt go to many stores but enquired in shops .. the price J.K technologies quoted was


CM ELITE 310 1.8k ( almost al shop same price)
bijli 1.5k
Asus m4a785td-v evo 6.3k ( no other shop offered below 6.6k)
AMD A II x4 630 4.7k .. yes 630 not 620
2gb ddr3 2.6k
500gn WD 2.2k
lg dvd 0.9k
Apc 550v 1.75k
dell st2210 9k


unfortunately none of them were worid about PSU .. i asked about SAGA , cm elite they couldnt get its price.. il go again tomaro .. and check

thanks .. let see what others say

PSU & cabby is 1 area where everyone have its own views. market full of PSU & cabby's rather than mobo or proccy where the choices are limited.

1) @ 6.3k i see no reason u shouldn't get Asus. close ur eyes & get it.

2) thats X4 630 is a fantastic buy now. get it. forget theres exist a X4 620 also.

3) for cabby, check NZXT Gamma, cool G5 bought or Antec Two Hundred. both should cost ~2k.

ok, so heres few things u should look after:-

1) as u won't use OEM HSF, get a good thermal paste like Arctic silver or nano. it wil cost ~Rs.400. the thermal compound coming with the processor, keep it for latter use.

2) u wish to OC IGP. isn't? ask the assembler remove the North Bridge HeatSink & clean the pre-applied TRIM. then apply a fresh coat of the thermal compound. the side effect is u'll be able OC 100Mhz more while keeping temperature same as stock TRIM really helpful.

3) for the cabinet check that u have a fast 120mm fan on side panel. help cool the IGP. a front 120mm intake fan wil give much more good result. a back 80mm fan which comes free with most cabinet wil take care of hot air. add more fan if possible. but minimum is: 80mm X 1 @ rear. 120mm X 1 side. 120mm X 1 front. NZXT Gamma & Antec Two Hundred got space to add more fan. the Antec even comes with top 140mm fan, a real bonus.

so, all your doubts cleared?

 

[pulsar_swift]

Guys,

One quick question.

Asus m4a785td-v evo costs Rs 6500.

Why not use this motherboard BIOSTAR TA785G3 AM3 microATX Motherboard DDR3 for Rs 3650 and purchase a XFX NVDIA 9500 GT 512MB for Rs 3100

Total comes to Rs 6750.

What do you guys say ?

 

[happy20b]

anyone who don't own a graphics card. but think of adding a low-midrange card should opt for FSP Saga II 400W. its a good PSU with 80% efficiency. but if possible best is Seasonic 380W as its below 3k.



+1. very good point.



CM originals include the CM Extreme Power PSU which are famous for going *BOOM*. & the bundled PSU with the Elites are Xtreme Powers only.

yah, if graphics card not added they won't blew up but they wil give lower than needed currents.



at least FSP or VIP PSU's won't blow up, hope so. if graphics card not added. they are 80% certified. FSP is true 80% certified, though not know about VIP & Zebronics pro series. should be about 70-75%. but efficiency is not only thing to look after. the internal components should also be watched out. look for reviews. if review not available, check customer review in NewEgg.

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yah, avoid bijli. its woth the money but when the cooling need is more Biji just not upto the mark.

CX400W is just too much for a system with no graphics card. FSP 400W wil handle everything well. even if Op adds graphics card in future.



PSU & cabby is 1 area where everyone have its own views. market full of PSU & cabby's rather than mobo or proccy where the choices are limited.

1) @ 6.3k i see no reason u shouldn't get Asus. close ur eyes & get it.

2) thats X4 630 is a fantastic buy now. get it. forget theres exist a X4 620 also.

3) for cabby, check NZXT Gamma, cool G5 bought or Antec Two Hundred. both should cost ~2k.

ok now here is list

amd a2 x4 630 4.70k
asus m4a785td-v evo 6.30k
2gb ddr3 transcend 2.65k
WD 500gb 2.20k
LG dvd 0.90k
APC 550v 1.75k
dell st2210 9.00k

Total without cabinet and psu 27.5k -- 2.5k left as per my budget ..

I dont see any place where i can adjust to fit my budget .. and i dont want to change monitor ....

Anyone from banglore knows about nzxt gamma or antec 200 price ?

ok, so heres few things u should look after:-

1) as u won't use OEM HSF, get a good thermal paste like Arctic silver or nano. it wil cost ~Rs.400. the thermal compound coming with the processor, keep it for latter use.

2) u wish to OC IGP. isn't? ask the assembler remove the North Bridge HeatSink & clean the pre-applied TRIM. then apply a fresh coat of the thermal compound. the side effect is u'll be able OC 100Mhz more while keeping temperature same as stock TRIM really helpful.

3) for the cabinet check that u have a fast 120mm fan on side panel. help cool the IGP. a front 120mm intake fan wil give much more good result. a back 80mm fan which comes free with most cabinet wil take care of hot air. add more fan if possible. but minimum is: 80mm X 1 @ rear. 120mm X 1 side. 120mm X 1 front. NZXT Gamma & Antec Two Hundred got space to add more fan. the Antec even comes with top 140mm fan, a real bonus.

so, all your doubts cleared?

if i dont do 1) and 2) max how much i can achive with builtin IGP ?

 

[coderunknown]

ok now here is list

amd a2 x4 630 4.70k
asus m4a785td-v evo 6.30k
2gb ddr3 transcend 2.65k
WD 500gb 2.20k
LG dvd 0.90k
APC 550v 1.75k
dell st2210 9.00k

Total without cabinet and psu 27.5k -- 2.5k left as per my budget ..

I dont see any place where i can adjust to fit my budget .. and i dont want to change monitor ....

Anyone from banglore knows about nzxt gamma or antec 200 price ?

why u getting 2Gb ram? get 4Gb. with 32bit windows you can use 3.5gb & so rest 512Mb dedicate to graphics memory. it'll really boost the graphics power of your mobo.

Gamma should cost 1.9k after tax. adding more fan i.e. 3X 120mm (1 included) wil cost ~ Rs.750. you may instead opt for CM 310 & do same. add 2 X 120mm fans.

if i dont do 1) and 2) max how much i can achive with builtin IGP ?

with a 120mm fan blowing across the NB heatsink, u should be able push IGP to 900Mhz while keeping HeatSink temp down. by adding some TRIM, 1Ghz looks possible. thats 100% OC for the IGP. should get FPS in crysis even in high resolution.

Guys,

One quick question.

Asus m4a785td-v evo costs Rs 6500.

Why not use this motherboard BIOSTAR TA785G3 AM3 microATX Motherboard DDR3 for Rs 3650 and purchase a XFX NVDIA 9500 GT 512MB for Rs 3100

Total comes to Rs 6750.

What do you guys say ?

Biostar TA785G3 got only 2 Dimm slots. so maximum of 8Gb is supported. a cheap 9500GT wil cost 2700. but problem is after populating the lone X16 slot, next time u want better graphics u'll need to sell the old card. also TA785G not support 140W CPU. & Asus M4A785TD-V EVO after IGP OC wil come real close to 9500Gt performance. & the board quality is much better than Biostar.

 

[happy20b]

why u getting 2Gb ram? get 4Gb. with 32bit windows you can use 3.5gb & so rest 512Mb dedicate to graphics memory. it'll really boost the graphics power of your mobo.

As i told in the begining .. ryt now im planing to put 2gb ram .. may b after 2 months ill add extra 2gb and buy altec lansing bxr1220

Gamma should cost 1.9k after tax. adding more fan i.e. 3X 120mm (1 included) wil cost ~ Rs.750. you may instead opt for CM 310 & do same. add 2 X 120mm fans.


with a 120mm fan blowing across the NB heatsink, u should be able push IGP to 900Mhz while keeping HeatSink temp down. by adding some TRIM, 1Ghz looks possible. thats 100% OC for the IGP. should get FPS in crysis even in high resolution.

Anyways ill checkout for cm elite 310 and saga II 400W..
and ill not add any extra fans or ill not overclock igp and proc untill i add extra 2gb ram..

may be after 2 months ill add 2gb ram, extra fans and then overclock both igp and proc .. is it fine ?

and i have one old 40gb IDE hardisk .. i can use it along with 500gb hdisk ryt ?


Thanks

 

[Cool G5]

Yes the IDE HDD can be used with your SATA HDD.

Going for CM Elite 310 at Rs.1.7K is useless when you can get a much better cabinet in form of NZXT Gamma adding another Rs.300 to the total.

 

[coderunknown]

As i told in the begining .. ryt now im planing to put 2gb ram .. may b after 2 months ill add extra 2gb and buy altec lansing bxr1220

oops, missed it.

Anyways ill checkout for cm elite 310 and saga II 400W..
and ill not add any extra fans or ill not overclock igp and proc untill i add extra 2gb ram..

may be after 2 months ill add 2gb ram, extra fans and then overclock both igp and proc .. is it fine ?

and i have one old 40gb IDE hardisk .. i can use it along with 500gb hdisk ryt ?


Thanks

try hard & get NZXT Gamma. its far better than CM Elite 310. got space to add 2 side fans & bottom mounted PSU which is just excellent. & later down the month add 3-4 more fans. ur PC wil celebrate winter in hot summer days read reviews.

PSU: if saga II not available, get VIP 500W Gold. cost almost same & is good. wil handle most midrange cards.

even at stock speed i.e. 500Mhz, the IGP is better than any Intel IGP out in market. G45 is no match for HD4200. nor is intel HD Graphics onboard i3's & i5's.

yup, u surely can. Asus board got IDE port. though no floppy port is there (who uses floppies nowadays anyway?).

oh 1 thing, either u get CM Elite 310 or NZXT Gamma, put the default back fan on side until u add more fan. then OC ur IGP. done.

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Yes the IDE HDD can be used with your SATA HDD.

Going for CM Elite 310 at Rs.1.7K is useless when you can get a much better cabinet in form of NZXT Gamma adding another Rs.300 to the total.

+1. read few reviews. excellent cabby compared to CM Elites. & i personally liked the front side. unique design

 

[happy20b]

Dear all,

I will b buying pc this weekend .. (march 6th)

I dont think nzxt gamma available in bangalore.. the only distributor in india is prime *www.primeabgb.com/ ...

does anyone know dealer in bangalore?

cm elite 310, fsp saga 400W , nzxt gamma, vip 500w gold .. any more option ? coz when i go to sp road , in case if these items are not available there which one should i buy ? I will be assembling pc in sp road only..

When i went last week to sp road no one was worid about cabinet and psu .. they were sugetsing cm elite 310 with local 600rs psu.. and some shop ppl were not aware of FSP saga company itself ..

and in another shop offered cm 400w ..

is cooler master psu not good ?

ill be going with amd x4 630 and asus m4a785td-v evo ..
please sugest atleast 3 or more cabinet+psu combinations in prioarity


PS: please try to keep total cost below 4 to 4.5k

a] nzxt gamma + ?
b] ?
c] cm elite 310 + fsp saga II 400W
d]

thanks everyone

 

[coderunknown]

Dear all,

I will b buying pc this weekend .. (march 6th)

I dont think nzxt gamma available in bangalore.. the only distributor in india is prime *www.primeabgb.com/ ...

does anyone know dealer in bangalore?

cm elite 310, fsp saga 400W , nzxt gamma, vip 500w gold .. any more option ? coz when i go to sp road , in case if these items are not available there which one should i buy ? I will be assembling pc in sp road only..

When i went last week to sp road no one was worid about cabinet and psu .. they were sugetsing cm elite 310 with local 600rs psu.. and some shop ppl were not aware of FSP saga company itself ..

and in another shop offered cm 400w ..

is cooler master psu not good ?

ill be going with amd x4 630 and asus m4a785td-v evo ..
please sugest atleast 3 or more cabinet+psu combinations in prioarity

a] nzxt gamma + ?
b] ?
c] cm elite 310 + fsp saga II 400W


thanks everyone

most pc shops are like that only. they just know intel, asus, gigabyte, cooler master, kingston, etc. when u ask them about Corsair or Seasonic or even tagan they wil start giving u lectures.
ok so heres the list:

Cabinet:

1) NZXT Gamma (plz try hard & get it)
2) CM Elite 310
3) Antec Two Hundred.

PSU:

1) FSP Saga II 400W
2) Gigabyte 460W (should be available in most shops)
3) Vip 500W Gold

Cooler Master PSU are good. very good 1s except their Extreme Power lineup. its full of craps. under load they blow up. & cause of that spikes damage the motherboard & even the processor. hard drive & Optical drives inc.

 

[happy20b]

most pc shops are like that only. they just know intel, asus, gigabyte, cooler master, kingston, etc. when u ask them about Corsair or Seasonic or even tagan they wil start giving u lectures.
ok so heres the list:

ha ha .. 100% true in sp road

Cabinet:

1) NZXT Gamma (plz try hard & get it)
2) CM Elite 310
3) Antec Two Hundred.

PSU:

1) FSP Saga II 400W
2) Gigabyte 460W (should be available in most shops)
3) Vip 500W Gold

So i can combine any cabinet with any psu ryt ? ..im just asking coz some psu hav exhaust fans on upper side and few on lower side.. so cabinet should match them ryt ?

and about nzxt gamma .. hard to fine in bangalore.. plz if some one knows ,,let me know

 

[coderunknown]

ha ha .. 100% true in sp road

not just SP road, almost all over India. in my place they just know XFX graphics card (never asked about ATI, else they'll eat my head alive) & intel processor (AMD? whats dat?). as for motherboard asus, intel original & gigabyte & few more.

So i can combine any cabinet with any psu ryt ? ..im just asking coz some psu hav exhaust fans on upper side and few on lower side.. so cabinet should match them ryt ?

and about nzxt gamma .. hard to fine in bangalore.. plz if some one knows ,,let me know

most PSU from international brand have a big 100mm fan on down side with a honeycomb or so design on the side. so it'll never get blocked. local PSU got only a small 60-70mm fan on back.

NZXT Gamma got PSU mounting on bottom but it got a grill to let hot air out. so no worry about it also.

 

[happy20b]

PSU:

1) FSP Saga II 400W
2) Gigabyte 460W (should be available in most shops)
3) Vip 500W Gold

by the way are they 80+ certified

 

[coderunknown]

by the way are they 80+ certified

FSP & Giagbyte are. not sure about VIP.

 

[happy20b]

Few complaints i found regarding nzxt gamma


the cable management is not as expected,
front panel plastic looks cheap,
will not take long gfx.
Plugging sata cable on mobo which have side ports is pain.

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after searching google and other forums i found following info regarding gamma

TheITDepot Chennai (nearest place to me (bangalore) ) has the NZXT Gamma for Rs. 1.85k + shipping starts from 250

*www.theitdepot.com/details-C5P7108.html

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I have mailed Theitdepot ppl .. asking for total price including shiping to bangalore

Waiting for their reply

 

[coderunknown]

Few complaints i found regarding nzxt gamma


the cable management is not as expected,
front panel plastic looks cheap,
will not take long gfx.
Plugging sata cable on mobo which have side ports is pain.

---------- Post added at 11:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 PM ----------

after searching google and other forums i found following info regarding gamma

TheITDepot Chennai (nearest place to me (bangalore) ) has the NZXT Gamma for Rs. 1.85k + shipping starts from 250

*www.theitdepot.com/details-C5P7108.html

---------- Post added at 11:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 PM ----------

I have mailed Theitdepot ppl .. asking for total price including shiping to bangalore

Waiting for their reply

1) cable management is ok for a cabby that comes at 2k or below.

2) not exactly. the front panel is good. depends on what the user wants. it may look cheap to someone & good to others. its style may look cheap.

3) yup, but wil take 11" card like HD5870. not like HD5970. its not ment to accommodate a card that long. for such builds CM HAF, Cosmos are there.

4) true. it'll b a it hard. but not for u. for the assembler .

 

[happy20b]

I have mailed Theitdepot ppl .. asking for total price including shiping to bangalore

Waiting for their reply

and the reply is ..

The product you enquired is available. The total cost (product price&shipping)would be Rs 2120/- The product would be dispatched through professional courier.if placed order.Please view the link for the same
*www.theitdepot.com/details-C5P7108.html

what you ppl say ?

 

[coderunknown]

and the reply is ..

The product you enquired is available. The total cost (product price&shipping)would be Rs 2120/- The product would be dispatched through professional courier.if placed order.Please view the link for the same
*www.theitdepot.com/details-C5P7108.html

what you ppl say ?

get it. Rs.2120 is fantastic price for such a good cabby. in NewEgg (US) its selling for 49.99$, so u having a profit actually .

1 more thing i just forget tell u, when u assemble PC, ask them if they have any spare Phenom II X4 BE cooler. if they have, pay them little more & get it instead of the cheap athlon coolers. it got heatpipes & its cooling is much better than Intel or other AMD coolers. worth the extra cost. maybe 200-300 extra at most. u can OC much more while keeping ur proccy cool.