Need a new CPU, Mobo & RAM for Gaming Rig, confused about graphics card/s

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Tenida

Tenida

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$$Lionking$$ said:
Tenida - Yes but GD80 is highest end msi... and UD7 is highest end Gigabyte...!! and if msi cant compete with a good quality board then its basically msi's problem.. :p

P.S. I hope you understand Im pulling ur leg... :p

@Jaskanwar - It was stupid of msi to give such an option... it was stupider(or maybe be he was experimenting?) of the user to load cpu by 50% on 1 phase... :D
lol it took the 2600K with it.... lmao! :D
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Only one link cannot prove that the whole series of boards from MSI have the same problem. I have searched in the google about the problem related to APS in sandy bridge system, I couldn't find any link other than yours.
msi active phase switching problem - Google Search

MSI P67A-GD80 overclocking potential
MSI P67A-GD80 Socket 1155 Motherboard Reviews - OCIA.net
MSI P67A-GD80 (B3) Motherboard Review - Page 5 - Overclocking

MSI Z68A-GD80 Overclocking potentian
MSI Z68A-GD80 Revision G3 Review » Page 6 - Testing: Setup & Overclocking - Overclockers Club
MSI Z68A-GD80 Revision G3 Review » Page 9 - Testing: Sisoft Sandra 2011 - Overclockers Club
MSI Z68A-GD80 Revision G3 Review » Page 10 - Testing: ScienceMark, Cinebench, HD Tune - Overclockers Club
MSI Z68A-GD80 Revision G3 Review » Page 15 - Testing: Futuremark 3DMark 11 - Overclockers Club
MSI Z68A-GD80 (G3) - Bjorn3D.com

Sub-Zero Overclocking result
MSI Z68A-GD80 G3 Z68 Motherboard Review - Page 13
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Active Phase Switching (APS) is MSI "marketspeak" for its Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) power switching capability. Dynamic Energy Saver is the GIGABYTE term for the same thing. These VRM control schemes have nothing to do with how fast the processor runs. What they do is to make the power delivery to the processor much more efficient, which saves on the overall system power consumption, heat production and of course energy costs. Even if you could turn this feature off, you wouldn't want to.
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skeletor

skeletor

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Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4 is being sold at 12K in the Bazaar section. Thought it might interest you.
 
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Skud

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Thanks ico. Checked it much earlier. Looking for at least a UD5, and in probability will get a UD7.

Suggest a wireless keyboard-mouse combo within 1.5k.

Shortlisted the following:-

Logitech MK260
Microsoft Wireless 800
Microsoft Wireless 2000
 
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d6bmg

d6bmg

BMG ftw!!
^ Microsoft Wireless 2000

Heard complaints about MK260 from some users, so I would suggest you to go in M$ way.
 
skeletor

skeletor

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Just stay away from wireless mice altogether. Pain in the arse to replace batteries.

Wireless keyboards are okay.
 
Tenida

Tenida

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Wireless combo are not that bad. I'm using Logitech Mk250 for past 2years, purchased in Jan, 2010.About battery backup, keyboards gives about 2 years and mouse 6-8months life depending upon the use.
P.S-I've not replaced the battery for keyboard yet :)
Don't buy the Logitech Mk260 it doesn't have physical on/off switch button in both keyboard/mouse.Instead have a look on Logitech MK320
 
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Skud

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Thanks for the confirmation. :)

OK, so this is the story so far:-

CPU=i7 2600k
Mobo=Gigabyte GA P67 UD7

Can anyone confirm if I do get a SNB-E 3820 & Gigabyte X79-UD3 combo at similar price range, which one would be better?

For wireless combo, going for the Microsoft Wireless 2000 from Flipkart. Any other source from where I can get it cheaper?
 
vickybat

vickybat

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^^ Is 3820 out yet?? It depends on which platform you plan to adopt and if it caters to your requirement. If you plan to go with a powerful multigpu setup, then the x79 platform is right for you. Its not like 1155 will be a serious bottleneck but x79 seems the right choice.

Between the two cpu's ,there's not much to differentiate apart from the fact that 2600k is easier to overclock. See this comparison:

2600k vs 3820

So nothing much to differ.

I'd say if 3820 comes cheaper, then grab it. You'll have an interesting upgrade path for socket 2011 albeit an expensive one.:)
 
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Skud

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Not really thinking about upgrading the CPU of this rig in near future. It will be whatever best is available up to a certain limit.
 
$$Lionking$$

$$Lionking$$

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Skud - for same price i7 3820 eyes closed..!!

Reasons -

1. Performance slightly higher than SB.
2. Platform is better.

Intel Core i7-3930K And Core i7-3820: Sandy Bridge-E, Cheaper : Core i7-3930K And -3820 Get Reviewed
 
vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Skud said:
Not really thinking about upgrading the CPU of this rig in near future. It will be whatever best is available up to a certain limit.
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Flip a coin and get whatever you see fit. Both are different platforms. If you want to stick with a hyperthreaded quadcore cpu then get the cheaper combo. If you want to add multicore cpu's more than 4 cores in future, x79 is the way to go.

Since you have a good budget, use it wisely and buy components after planning what you really want to do with them.:)
 
dashing.sujay

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@Skud- Go for logitech wireless combo. I have it and is working flawlessly. :) It also has physical switch. I don't remember the model though. I bought it for 1100.
 
d3p

d3p

PowerHouse
$$Lionking$$ said:
Skud - for same price i7 3820 eyes closed..!!

Reasons -

1. Performance slightly higher than SB.
2. Platform is better.

Intel Core i7-3930K And Core i7-3820: Sandy Bridge-E, Cheaper : Core i7-3930K And -3820 Get Reviewed
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First thing, if gaming is the only priority then its better to stay away from this platform, it never offer any thing better & i don't think SKUD wants a Workstation.

Secondly the way the components are priced, there are chances where the SB-E & X79 will cost a huge.The availability of 3820 also might be a big issue as of now.

Thirdly....Just read it from the above link from tomshardware...

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if you need a quad-core chip, I don’t see any reason to buy a high-end platform (X79), quad-channel memory kit, and a locked processor when the Z68/Core i7-2600K combo is cheaper, still very capable, and equipped with Quick Sync support.
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Fourth, Intel Processors were never backward compatible except [P4, PD, C2D, C2Q - LGA775 ]....See how X58 ends & wait for the same case with LGA2011. So its not futureproof or can't saw its better with few 0.5 more FPS.
I feel no one should use the word futureproof itself. There's no correct justification of that word in this field.

IMO Compared to intel lineup, AMD Phenom II & recent FX series is far far better. Not only with performance, but also with pricing part too. Its not priced high as intel & one can easily Overclock them & squeeze out the max of those chips.

Fifth, after reading the entire article, i feel its made by bunch of dumba$$.
Coz, no one in this whole world will ever compare a Stock i7 920 [X58-LGA1366] with Oced 4.6GHz SB-E & put them in bench results.

In other words, unleash the dragon power from 990x, 2600k & then compare them. That makes some sense.

Read the above article, its just another nasty piece.
 
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$$Lionking$$

$$Lionking$$

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@ Fifth - Ur opinion on article - 3820 is direct successor to 920. and it was an SB-E review... all new CPUs were benchmarked with OC also... so it makes perfect sense..!!
 
d3p

d3p

PowerHouse
Even if its an article on SB-E review, does it make any sense by comparing Phenom II in stock with SB-E. But have a look at all the other processor line up. they are clocked in stock....

If there is a newly launched processor in the market which is the successor of existing line up, then it doesn't mean reviews can go on comparing their stock capabilities & prove how niche the predecessors were.

Anyway the Performance chart of 3820 proves everything else....Want to see how it performs in real world then forget market gimmicks & do an apple to apple comparision.
 
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