MUP - MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

[eddie]

Re: Microsoft® Unlimited Potential Programme.

Because most of the required apps in school work in Windows without a geek interface.

Define "geek interface".

& Why would you care if MS works in transparent manner. If they don't work properly it is there problem & there loss. Why are you justifying it.

Did you even read the post I was replying to? I was replying to anandk's post regarding "damn if they do...damn if they don't" and not "justifying" anything.

 

[shantanu]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

what do you mean $400 for the hardware,, m$ is not saying you to buy that PC, its just selling the software so that developing countries can use genuine..

and i think you guys must have read that """FREE """" isnt means that it doesnt cost anything.. Free means that if i buy linux OSS then i can distribute it free...

i read somewhere that it is thought that FREE in linux is meant free of cost... its not that... even LINUX versions..

RHEL costs : from $80-339 ,

and i think an OSS also needs a computer to run.. or you run it VIRTUALLY..

 

[freebird]

Re: Microsoft® Unlimited Potential Programme.

..... , dunno what to say , ppl r such jerks .

even though if they started using an OS soft only a week ago they'll go on about how good it is n , bla bla bla .

i'm not sayin that OS is bad , but i'm sayin that MS is not bad too , got it .

it's da users choice to use what he wants , u need not blame MS .

I am using GNU/Linux for the past 4 years.do understand ppl lives in this world without the monopoly OS.there are ppl who runs GNU/Linux on vmware etc and not all tasting the power of the beast and thinking they are the Wise Geeks who saves earth.
Windows is just a s/w, am pointing about the monopoly company using patent warfare,FUD ,SCOing on alternate OS which are growing fast.

 

[praka123]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

Let the users decide the virtues of Linux or Free Software U cant force someone!.but i too dont understand where does M$ beat opensource with this deal.

 

[mehulved]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

what do you mean $400 for the hardware,, m$ is not saying you to buy that PC, its just selling the software so that developing countries can use genuine..

Yeah and offering you crippleware. Linux offers the software for free without any such restrictions.

and i think you guys must have read that """FREE """" isnt means that it doesnt cost anything.. Free means that if i buy linux OSS then i can distribute it free...

Yeah free has always been for freedom and not for for free of cost, but that's with open source not with FSF. Anyways that's another point.

i read somewhere that it is thought that FREE in linux is meant free of cost... its not that... even LINUX versions..

RHEL costs : from $80-339 ,

Those charges are for services not for the product. Doesn't MS charge insanely high for servers compared to desktops? Service charges are always there, if you give service free of cost then you're insane.

and i think an OSS also needs a computer to run.. or you run it VIRTUALLY..

Well that was for mav3 who put up the AMD PIC and wrote - beat this open source, and started comparing with OLPC. The starter edition MS is trying to offer to school kids as compitition to OLPC, has Intel's classmate PC and it costs $400. So, effectively you pay $403. Now I don't know in which universe $403>$100. Maybe MS whitewashes you fanboys to believe that.

Because most of the required apps in school work in Windows without a geek interface.

Have a look at sugar interface used in OLPC.

 

[shantanu]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

Those charges are for services not for the product. Doesn't MS charge insanely high for servers compared to desktops? Service charges are always there, if you give service free of cost then you're insane.

in that matter the charges for Servers are more than $3000 for redhat..

i wrote the price of Desktop edition

Maybe MS whitewashes you fanboys to believe that.

can you be more clear on white wash
if you are saying me a fanboy, then surely you are also one for linux... isnt it..

and i dont know what exactly do you rate to call a person a FANBOY... i just take the right one

PS: nothing personal.. just topic flame

 

[mehulved]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

in that matter the charges for Servers are more than $3000 for redhat..

i wrote the price of Desktop edition

I don't know anyone using Red Hat on desktop and why would they? Well it's just fedora + official support. I think you need to go back and check again. Only paid desktop distros I remember of are - linspire and xandros. Again, they're paid cos they contain all proprietory codecs. As for lispire it is one of the most shunned distros by the community for being MS'ish. No one from linux community even gave a damn to it when MS sued them for the name lindows.

 

[shantanu]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

and i dont think MS cares if anyone gives a DAMN or not

and well i checked it.. desktop and servers subscriptions are same as i posted... they are paid...

www.redhat.com/rhel

 

[mehulved]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

and i dont think MS cares if anyone gives a DAMN or not

Why would they give a damn to 5% when they can loot 90%

and well i checked it.. desktop and servers subscriptions are same as i posted... they are paid...

www.redhat.com/rhel

But, why would someone in their right mind buy it. And as it is the version used for OLPC is not paid. And this thread doesn't focus on servers and services.

 

[shantanu]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

ya sure this thread does not focus on that...

but you can't say the words loot of 90%...
Give a proof of this..

 

[..:: Free Radical ::..]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

I look forward to the individual specs of the 50x15, Intel Classmate PC & the OLPC.
Looks like a handy device to carry around and do justice to all my ebooks.
So can any1 post their specifications, processor speed, RAM, Hard disk space etc. instead of the Billy vs. OSS discussion. I hope the OS is not hardcoded into flash memory like in mobile phones/handheld devices and generic common drivers, I want to have freedom over choice of OS. . I am looking for a bargain UMPC

EDIT: From DesktopLinux.com

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]*www.desktoplinux.com/files/misc/olpc-green-white-thm.jpgThe One Laptop Per Child program reported today that after 303 builds, it finally has a satisfactory version of its Red Hat Linux-based Sugar operating system that is considered stable, according to OLPC president for software and content Walter Bender.

"After a final few bugs that had hidden in corners were driven into the light, we issued Stable Build 303 along with Q2B76 firmware this week," Bender said in his weekly email report.

Highlights of this stable build, according to Bender, include:[/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
  [*]A working mesh network
  [*]An updated Web browser that scales on the high-resolution screen, making for an improved web experience
  [*]Gnash, the FOSS Flash player (still somewhat unstable), is pre-installed; Adobe's Flash 9 is also known to work but is not packaged or installed as part of the build
  [*]A touch-pad driver fix for jumping cursor: The touch pad should be more usable, and the tablet is enabled on B2 systems
  [*]Boot time has improved due to a scheduler fix[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The Cambridge, Mass.-based project says it shipped about 2,500 test laptops to eight nations last month. Earlier this month, OLPC shipped 100 machines to children in a Nigerian test school, Bender said.

The experiment was a prelude to mass production of the kid-friendly, lime-green and white laptops scheduled to begin in July, when 5 million are scheduled to be built, according to Taiwanese laptop maker Quanta.

State educators in Brazil, Uruguay, Libya, Rwanda, Pakistan, Thailand, and possibly Ethiopia and the West Bank received the first of the machines in February's pilot prior to a wider rollout to Indonesia and a handful of other countries, according to the project.

Background on the project

OLPC aims to distribute -- free of charge -- millions of low-cost, self-powered, low-cost Linux laptops to needy children around the world, with governments making the purchases. The original cost target for the OLPC laptops was $100 (₨ 4,200), but that number has drifted upward slightly, over the past year or so, to about $150 (₨ 6,280).

The idea behind the OLPC laptop is to provide children with the opportunity to learn about learning itself -- to explore, experiment and express themselves, an OLPC spokesperson said. The laptops will be distributed in schools.

Key features of the OLPC laptop include a 7.5-inch 1200 x 900 pixel LCD screen, a keyboard that switches between languages, a digital video camera, built-in 802.11b/g wireless connectivity, a hand crank to charge its built-in rechargeable battery, and a customized version of Fedora Core Linux tailored for remote regions.

The device is based on a low-power, x86-compatible AMD Geode "embedded" processor clocked at 366MHz. It has 128MB of DRAM, along with 512MB of nonvolatile flash memory for program and data storage, and is equipped with three USB 2.0 ports for expansion. It boots via LinuxBIOS into Linux.

The OLPC project, based at the MIT media lab in Cambridge, is well into its second year. OLPC founding include AMD, News Corp, Google, Brightstar, Red Hat Linux, Nortel, Marvell, eBay, Quanta, Chi Mei, SES/Astra, and Citigroup. The United Nations and Inter-American Development Bank are its non-profit partners.

[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]More about the OLPC Project[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
For lots of background on the OLPC's Linux-based low-cost laptop project -- including features, specs, and a timeline of announcements -- be sure to peruse our comprehensive OLPC special report:

[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Key Features and Specs[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
The OLPC lists the following key features and specs for the proposed low-cost laptops on its website: [/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]
  [*] Processor -- AMD Geode GX2-500@1.0W clocked at 366MHz
  [*] Memory -- 128MB of DRAM
  [*] Storage -- no hard drive; instead, the unit will have 512MB of internal nonvolatile "flash memory," used for programs and data storage
  [*] Display -- 7.5-inch "dual-mode" 1200 x 900 pixel display
  • Mono display: High-resolution, reflective monochrome mode
  • Color display: Standard-resolution, quincunx-sampled, transmissive color mode
  [*] Expansion -- three USB 2.0 ports; SD card slot
  [*] Wireless networking -- built-in 802.11b/g WiFi
  [*] Power supply -- built-in rechargeable battery back with wind-up charger
  [*] System software:
  • OS -- a version of Fedora Core Linux is available for testing, but Fedora is not necessarily the shipped OS
  • User interface -- Sugar, "a custom built interface designed for the kids"
  • Boot environment -- LinuxBIOS
  [/FONT]

EDIT2 : Ooopsie. Just noted the post below

 

[mehulved]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

Here you go for OLPC - *wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware_specification
Intel Classmate - *download.intel.com/intel/worldahead/pdf/classmatepc_productbrief.pdf?iid=worldahead+ed_cmpc_pdf

But, will they be available to general public? I am not so sure.

 

[Third Eye]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

Cool news

 

[anandk]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

Can you explain - beat that open source? What is MS offering here that open source isn't?

its not my title. i had titled the thread simply as : Microsoft® Unlimited Potential Programme.

praps some mod changed it to : MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

i think a title :

Microsoft® Unlimited Potential Programme - S/W's for $3

wud then be better !

 

[Choto Cheeta]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

@tech_your_future

regarding those Cheap budget Lappy or PCs,

I just saw a demo of New Acer Product !! Its about to come to the market within 15/20 days... only they are waiting to see USd 3 factor or they would bundle XP Home...

Celeron M 900 MHz
256MB DDR
2GB HDD
2 USD 2.0 (Usb booting supported)
7" Screen running 800x600
LAN Port
Wifi Ready

Expected Price Rs. 13200/- without OS !! Expected Market Price (Take home) under 15k

Acer gave us a demo regarding this.. !!

P.S. Dont count me as an offcial annoucer ... Wait for them to annouce

 

[iMav]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

its not my title. i had titled the thread simply as : Microsoft® Unlimited Potential Programme.

praps some mod changed it to : MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

i think a title :

Microsoft® Unlimited Potential Programme - S/W's for $3

wud then be better !

t_y_f took my title and ur first pos ... smart guy ....

 

[Pathik]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

^^ 8ur title is where the fight started... it wd have been confusing if anand's title wd hav been maintained...

 

[mehulved]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

t_y_f took my title and ur first pos ... smart guy ....

Simply, I merged THIS thread with anandk's thread, so the thread title of this thread prevailed. But, the posts are always arranged in the chronological order so anandk's post came first.

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

lolz , when i saw title

"MUP - MS OS for 3$(Beat that Open Source)"

i thought it was written

"MUP - Mac OS for 3$(Beat that Open Source)"

 

[eddie]

Re: MS OS for 3$ (beat tht open source)

in that matter the charges for Servers are more than $3000 for redhat..

That price you quote for RHEL is of RHEL application stack which comes with LAMP stack installed and supported. Microsoft's alternative to MySQL i.e. SQL Server alone costs $25,000 for single processor.

Just some perspective of the costs...