Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions

ksagar7up

Broken In
Just realised validity of old q in this thread... Why diff awards for best movie and best director. Believed it was for production house efforts and directors efforts, but checking back on filmfare awards, it's totally senseless.
Znmd, 3 idiots, jodhaa akbar, taare zameen par, rdb, black and kmg have all won both. When a movie has not won both, each has been nominated in the other category, and which movie got which award seems random. Barfi, Dabanng, veer zaara best movies and kahani, my name is khan, hum tum best directors. Lol.


I used to watch Hindi Movie Award shows....but not anymore...
the same old crap SRK comes with his hands in the air and sings DDLJ songs and makes cheap jokes,,,
Im sick of this ...Instead i wud watch any reruns of old tv series....
BTW many of our beloved actors objected that the awards are fixed and whoever shows up in the award ceremony
gets the award,,, exept Uday Chopra and Jacki Bhagnnaaaani....lol
 

ksagar7up

Broken In
Here's some info people, 3D in a movie doesn't mean that objects should show up on your face(it can get annoying if its used too much), it can be the opposite too, acting like a window into a separate world, that's exactly what Avatar changed. Star Trek ID, and Man of Steel, both were post converted, yet they looked absolutely phenomenal on the big screen. It all depends on how well its made. As for now, Man of Steel is highly recommended on IMAX 3D ;)

I totally agree with you,, I mean I've seen som ppl sayin that they didn't find much use
of 3d glasses coz It wasn't "Full 3d movie" we shud get Full paisa wassool of 3d movie...
and each and every object shud come and sit on our pupils ....LOL
I mean come on man....how much of paisa wud u wassoool out of it...
 
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rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Seeing lot of people posting supporting new take on Superman.

Let me put how it was for me taking an example.

I take the example of a Kishore Kumar song...ummm..."Pyaar manga hai tumhi se"?

Now this is an old song and very popular one (and my fav too) this symbolizes comic book Superman and old Superman movies.

Now, someone took this song, put some more beats, remixed it with raps, even added a guitar solo of 2 minutes. And then played back the new version in full volume.
He claimed that the song is now perfect, has got such modern touch, new technology, new sound even a rap telling about the song in between the song. He also claims that the song is better now as the romantic, mushy mushy approach is totally removed from it which made it a stud.

Now, me and few others) being oldie loved the old song in its original format and this remake is a let down for us. We felt that the new song is lacking its soul now. We are being thrashed by the remake lovers that we should open our eyes and try to like the remake in its own form. Well, but I can't, I simply can't. This remake version of the song did not touch me enough to like it or remember it or ponder upon it later.
 

cyborg47

Technomancer
Seeing lot of people posting supporting new take on Superman.

Let me put how it was for me taking an example.

I take the example of a Kishore Kumar song...ummm..."Pyaar manga hai tumhi se"?

Now this is an old song and very popular one (and my fav too) this symbolizes comic book Superman and old Superman movies.

Now, someone took this song, put some more beats, remixed it with raps, even added a guitar solo of 2 minutes. And then played back the new version in full volume.
He claimed that the song is now perfect, has got such modern touch, new technology, new sound even a rap telling about the song in between the song. He also claims that the song is better now as the romantic, mushy mushy approach is totally removed from it which made it a stud.

Now, me and few others) being oldie loved the old song in its original format and this remake is a let down for us. We felt that the new song is lacking its soul now. We are being thrashed by the remake lovers that we should open our eyes and try to like the remake in its own form. Well, but I can't, I simply can't. This remake version of the song did not touch me enough to like it or remember it or ponder upon it later.

You know what I had thought about Superman 1978 the first time I saw the movie? I was heart broken, that they took my all time favorite comic book character from 1940s, the first superhero of all time, who can leap over tall buildings and then suddenly in 1978, they made him fly like a goof in the air, that's wrong, they are messing with our favorite character. Its like taking a classic song and adding remixes and making it stylized to its time. Why is Clark Kent a reporter? He wasn't a reporter in my favorite original comics, he was just a strong man in blue suit, red undies and a red cape. Look at what they have done in 1978, they made him so slim unlike the George Reeves' version, he looked like a man with big muscles, that's how superman should be. Instead, these film makers have taken my beloved character, made him act like a goof in disguise. They even made him turn back time by going around the earth, Superman never did that in the original, he was a classic. /S

On the serious note, sorry to blow your bubble, but Superman in the 1978 version isn't the be all and end all version. Its a comic book character created almost 40 years before the movie was made. There were radio shows, tv shows(with numerous actors having played the characters), comic books. So Superman 1978, is only one of the versions of it. Technically speaking, Superman in the 1978 version is not supposed to fly, he wasn't supposed to have a disguise just because he can bang Lois, he never gives up his powers just to get married giving up his responsibilities over the humans. And most important of them all He would never kill Zod and smile like its Christmas, or Lois would punch Ursa into the pit...that's pure murder....that's how warming, and light hearted Reeve's Superman was :p

The sad thing is, that you narrow minded people(no offence, but I had to say this after reading your classic song remixed example, don't report me :p ) will never realize, is that they're fiction, and comics in particular, which have to be kept updated with time. The characters that worked in 1940 will never work in 1980s, and the ones worked in the 80s will never work in 2000s, Superman Returns tried that, failed miserably, it had the warmth, the light heartedness of the original, and what has it got back from the audience? only backlash. Your example about the songs being remixed apply very well to Superman Returns. You don't mess with the classics, instead, you create something that pushes the idea of the classics. Man of Steel takes nothing from Superman 1978, it only takes the character from all the comics, does the best it can to give us a Superman for 2013, just like Donner did in 1978. They are all interpretations, none of them are original, except for the original comics itself ;)
 
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rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
So, you are saying "Man of Steel" is another version of "Superman".
I've not read much 'different' version of comics but I know a little about Spiderman. So, its like "Spiderman" and "Amazing Spiderman"?
 

cyborg47

Technomancer
I still don't like the new version

This sounds better, rather than "its not like the donner movies :(" when the makers were trying their best to stray away from 1978 version :p

EDIT - Just FYI, its not a remake, more of a re-imagination. Superman Returns was a remake/sequel.

Its kinda like how people criticized Batman Begins for not having the gothic look that 1989 version had. Their fanboyism is nice to know, but they just cannot imagine the possibilities by re-imagining the characters. Hence, narrow minded ;)
 
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vickybat

I am the night...I am...
You know what I had thought about Superman 1978 the first time I saw the movie? I was heart broken, that they took my all time favorite comic book character from 1940s, the first superhero of all time, who can leap over tall buildings and then suddenly in 1978, they made him fly like a goof in the air, that's wrong, they are messing with our favorite character. Its like taking a classic song and adding remixes and making it stylized to its time. Why is Clark Kent a reporter? He wasn't a reporter in my favorite original comics, he was just a strong man in blue suit, red undies and a red cape. Look at what they have done in 1978, they made him so slim unlike the George Reeves' version, he looked like a man with big muscles, that's how superman should be. Instead, these film makers have taken my beloved character, made him act like a goof in disguise. They even made him turn back time by going around the earth, Superman never did that in the original, he was a classic. /S

On the serious note, sorry to blow your bubble, but Superman in the 1978 version isn't the be all and end all version. Its a comic book character created almost 40 years before the movie was made. There were radio shows, tv shows(with numerous actors having played the characters), comic books. So Superman 1978, is only one of the versions of it. Technically speaking, Superman in the 1978 version is not supposed to fly, he wasn't supposed to have a disguise just because he can bang Lois, he never gives up his powers just to get married giving up his responsibilities over the humans.

The sad thing you narrow minded people(no offence, but I had to say this after reading your classic song remixed example, don't report me :p ) will never realize, is that they're fiction, and comics in particular, which have to be kept updated with time. The characters that worked in 1940 will never work in 1980s, and the ones worked in the 80s will never work in 2000s, Superman Returns tried that, failed miserably, it had the warmth, the light heartedness of the original, and what has it got back from the audience? only backlash. Your example about the songs being remixed apply very well to Superman Returns. You don't mess with the classics, instead, you create something that pushes the idea of the classics. Man of Steel takes nothing from Superman 1978, it only takes the character from all the comics, does the best it can to give us a Superman for 2013, just like Donner did in 1978. They are all interpretations, none of them are original, except for the original comics itself ;)

This....

Its explained in great fashion and i don't think there's a better way to put things down than the above.
Characters need to be refreshed or given a fresh take to move along in time. More like an evolutionary process that applies everywhere.

The story could have been a bit deeper, but its in the right direction this time. The necessary changes made to the overall script, were indeed necessary.
The idea of lois not recognizing clark in the original was also a goofed up idea. Glad that it has been fixed here.

I wonder how, if people loved the batman trilogy, even though it deviated from the comics story line by a mile, still love it but not this one. For example, bane's depiction in TDR, is way different than how it was potrayed in the comics and anime. But people still loved it and all the fresh ideas. The same is happening with man of steel and the fact is that, it doesn't deviate that much relatively. So why complain here?

People should be glad that they ditched the 1978 idea for good and moved on. It would have looked completely out of place now if they hadn't.
 
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Flash

Lost in speed
I am legend - 9/10

At last, i watched this movie last week and felt why i missed this movie till.
Will smith, as always the awesome actor blending perfectly with his roles.

He's like the lone man on the planet, and he brilliantly portrayed the feeling of what one will do, if there's none to converse, especially when he's interacting with his dog Sam..
CGI effects of how Newyork will look like, when none to care.

Though i felt there are some loopholes.

- The story says "Krippin virus" outbreak happened on 2009, and most of the humanity would've wiped by atleast by 2010. But in 2012, Robert (Will smith) is freely roaming on his Ford-cars wherever he want to be without worrying about Petrol/Gasoline. He got that much fuel :mrgreen: ?
- And he powers his house by generators, then again the question on fuel.
- If Darkseekers are mindless, shouldn't they eat their own community to thrive?

Apart from these minor errors, that i've able to find, it's a must watch.
But i dislike the way, the movie ended.:evil: And yeah, i watched the Alternative ending on Youtube.. :twisted:
 

Saahib

Cyborg Agent
I am legend - 9/10

At last, i watched this movie last week and felt why i missed this movie till.
Will smith, as always the awesome actor blending perfectly with his roles.

He's like the lone man on the planet, and he brilliantly portrayed the feeling of what one will do, if there's none to converse, especially when he's interacting with his dog Sam..
CGI effects of how Newyork will look like, when none to care.

Though i felt there are some loopholes.

- The story says "Krippin virus" outbreak happened on 2009, and most of the humanity would've wiped by atleast by 2010. But in 2012, Robert (Will smith) is freely roaming on his Ford-cars wherever he want to be without worrying about Petrol/Gasoline. He got that much fuel :mrgreen: ?
- And he powers his house by generators, then again the question on fuel.
- If Darkseekers are mindless, shouldn't they eat their own community to thrive?

Apart from these minor errors, that i've able to find, it's a must watch.
But i dislike the way, the movie ended.:evil: And yeah, i watched the Alternative ending on Youtube.. :twisted:

I have watched both endings and it was kinda OK movie, it will keep you glued to your seats and for that 7/10 .
 

Zangetsu

I am the master of my Fate.
Seeing lot of people posting supporting new take on Superman.

Let me put how it was for me taking an example.

I take the example of a Kishore Kumar song...ummm..."Pyaar manga hai tumhi se"?

Now this is an old song and very popular one (and my fav too) this symbolizes comic book Superman and old Superman movies.

Now, someone took this song, put some more beats, remixed it with raps, even added a guitar solo of 2 minutes. And then played back the new version in full volume.
He claimed that the song is now perfect, has got such modern touch, new technology, new sound even a rap telling about the song in between the song. He also claims that the song is better now as the romantic, mushy mushy approach is totally removed from it which made it a stud.

Now, me and few others) being oldie loved the old song in its original format and this remake is a let down for us. We felt that the new song is lacking its soul now. We are being thrashed by the remake lovers that we should open our eyes and try to like the remake in its own form. Well, but I can't, I simply can't. This remake version of the song did not touch me enough to like it or remember it or ponder upon it later.

oh ho :facepalm: :censored:
 

NVIDIAGeek

Long Live Gojira!
rhitwick, I urge you to go watch MoS again with a free optimistic mind. You'll love (or at the least, like) it. The soundtrack gave my goosebumps as did Superman's first flight.
 
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