Microsoft admits failure on Vista patches

[faraaz]

@gx: Dude, no offense, but why you such a Windows fanboy?

 

[gxsaurav]

Not a fanboy, just clearning out misconceptions which the Macboys & lingeeks spread about Windows, like prakash spreads FUD about DRM in Vista when it hardly affects anyone right now

 

[eddie]

No Sorry, Yahoo Messenger & ICQ are closed source softwares.

Do I care what kind of source they have? I just want ICQ feature in Yahoo! messenger. Give that to me....nahi to accha khasa sunaunga & will switch to Linux

However Pidgin, GYachI, aMSN are all open source which means the functionality of GyashI can be easily integrated in Pidgin cos it is arleady there in the form of source code. If you give reason like "They don't have time" then you are talking nonsence. The text part of Pidgin is already complete since quite a long time.

Why is it nonsense? Do you know developers personally? Have you ever tried asking them why they are not doing it? (I have done it so don't even think about pointing the question at me) How can you say that text part is complete since a long time? Do you even know how many features they infuse every day in Pidgin? Pidgin developers have real life and they work on Pidgin as and when they want for FREE! If you don't like the alternatives being given...then you have two choices...A) Stop whining, or B) Infuse your own changes in the code. I don't understand how can anyone can make it clearer for you.

 

[faraaz]

I'm a recent convert to Linux so I may be misconstrued as a bit of a fanboy...but I'd just like to list out the reasons I shifted to Linux from Windows in the first place:

1) XP was very unstable. I got sick of getting booted to the desktop everytime I try to multitask.

2) XP was slow...

3) XP was a fscking pain to use thanks to all the viruses out there. I wanted to get out of the rat race of going on updating spyware, antivirus, defragging etc etc.

4) XP had horrible software. WMP was very unstable, Winamp used to mysteriously crash on me all the time.

5) Lack of customization and freedom to tinker with my system to get it running how I wanted.

Now, a lot of those reasons pro-Windows guys may find insufficient, or simply frivolous, so I would like to point out that these were the major irritants I faced and Beryl was the final nail in Windows' coffin!

I hope these reasons show that although you can start splitting hairs all day to defend Windows, at some basic levels, it just fails to be a satisfying OS.

 

[iMav]

what suits u better use it but yes those reasons are frivolous to say the least

there are members using windows w/o any antivirus software though i choose have 1 havent faced problems so my hair and many others' hair are quite intact

i must add here that because 1 isnt able to use something properly doesnt mean that the thing is flawed

 

[vish786]

@faraaz u should have tried ur luck in Vista since it has aero.

 

[faraaz]

@iMav: Sorry buddy, but I am very noob-ish when it comes to all this. I don't really care too much about all the technical details, and I sort of blunder through when it comes to any probs on the comp.

But I will say this...I like a flashy system, I like a fast system, and above all I want a stable system. My general impression was that Linux is all these things and more, Windows isn't...

@Vish: Aero is just a fancy window blinds theme with Linux's thumbnail preview feature built in..atleast, that's my uninformed nooby opinion!

Furthermore, having used Linux for almost a month now...I must say that when fully customized, it blows Vista out of the water...

 

[vish786]

ok one person is converted to linux now

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

Furthermore, having used Linux for almost a month now...I must say that when fully customized, it blows Vista out of the water...

This is exactly what linux first timers say .

Eventually , they fizz out and face the reality .

 

[faraaz]

@Vish: Totally dude!! I wouldn't say I was a fanboy...but today, I managed to get USB working in XP which was running within Linux through VirtualBox. I then proceeded to hook it up so that my Nokia N80 which is totally incompatible with Linux as such can sync with the guest installation of XP.

This eliminated one MAJOR reason I was hanging on to my XP install cuz I take a LOAD of photos.

Another thing was I managed to get like 6 of my all time favorite games (Commandos 2, Baldurs Gate 2, Icewind Dale 2, Oblivion, System Shock 2 & Warcraft III) to work on my Sabayon install pretty painlessly through VirtualBox ('cept for Oblivion of course...that works in WINE). The point is...I am slowly adapting and I am booting into Windows less and less as each day goes by...

EditZeeshan: You'd think so...but beyond all the eye candy, Linux gives you heaps of extra functionality that Windows never can. The 4 desktops for one make multi-tasking a DREAM! Konqueror is totally integrated with the OS which Explorer in Vista is barely starting to approach right now. Extra panels may seem like a small thing, but I love having 8 panels on my desktop with each having a very specific set of icons. The list goes on and on and on...

PS: What's the reality?

 

[~Phenom~]

ROFL to see this thread , especially when I saw a thread saying Vista is most secure earlier today.

Peace.

 

[ChaiTan3]

This is exactly what linux first timers say .

Eventually , they fizz out and face the reality .

What reality?

 

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

Furthermore, having used Linux for almost a month now...I must say that when fully customized, it blows Vista out of the water...

Faraaz , as you say that Linux totally blows out windows , i would suggest u remove each and every trace of windows from your system and then do things the linux way .

PS: that includes trying to figure out how to get your mobile work , which , in windows was taken for granted.

 

[vish786]

@zeehan

bache ki jaan le gha kya be... , tu to oske peche hi pad gaya

 

[faraaz]

@Zeeshan: You still haven't told me what the reality is. And I didn't say Linux blows Windows out of the water, I said VISTA...as you so nicely quoted for me. I don't mind using XP now and then, but that's only when I feel like playing Neverwinter Nights, NFS MW, NFS Carbon and STALKER. Trust me, if I could get these and future game titles to work on Linux I wouldn't bother.

Besides, I've only been using Linux for a month and already I've moved all my data to Linux and left Windows as a barebone install with nothing on it right now. AND I haven't booted into Windows for a week...

PS: Connecting my mobile in Windows wasn't taken for granted. Took me a week to get stupid XP to recognize the drivers for my mobile phone. Plus my USB controller was messed up because of some emulation software I had installed so I had to keep attaching and removing everytime I wanted my N80 to connect. Not so in Linux...

PPS: Why you taking it so personally man?

 

[QwertyManiac]

Faraaz , as you say that Linux totally blows out windows , i would suggest u remove each and every trace of windows from your system and then do things the linux way .

PS: that includes trying to figure out how to get your mobile work , which , in windows was taken for granted.

Aw please .. Just cause you don't have enough ideas figuring how things work, even though you are a 'developer', don't think others don't know either. GnoKii works fine here, so does KMobileTools. I can do all that Nokia PC suite does, minus its bloat. Thats way more than what Windows single handedly does. And FYI, am going 2 months now without a trace of Windows. And for the last half a year before that, the only thing I've done worthy of Windows, is play Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos.

PPS: Why you taking it so personally man?

God knows, he wasn't such a person before .. before the 9-lettered company came around here, searching goons for hire.

 

[iMav]

@Zeeshan: You still haven't told me what the reality is

its the same reality that eddies and praka used to talk about when vista final was released

 

[faraaz]

Still dunno what that is. He was saying it as though Linux is a passing phase and I will come back to the "holy grail" that is Vista...but I tried Vista, and honestly I thought XP was better than that piece of $hit...

 

[iMav]

every1 has the right to his opinion ....

 

[vish786]

its the same reality that eddies and praka used to talk about when vista final was released

can u plz brief us... i would like to get enlightened b4 i die