Killing Piracy

[chaitanya2106]

Hey all,
We all are used to using pirated software from ages. We used to go to the local cd store and take a pirated copy of a movie on rent or purchase a video game. Now we have torrents and file sharing sites. We download and install Windows like its for granted. These are works of years and years of hard work. It is ruining our potential to spend some quality time on your work or studies. Had piracy not existed, we wouldn't have had so many Gigabytes of illegal copies of movies/tv shows/softwares/games. And in this way we could have saved us months of time & spend it rather on some productive work to gain money and then spend it legally on whatever we want. I am sure almost everyone who uses Windows & if their machine is not shipped with Windows is using a pirated copy of it.
What do you guys have opinion on this?

 

[raksrules]

What's your point ? You want to kill piracy because you are feeling guilty about doing it ?
Although there is no justification of piracy but when someone say is watching English TV shows on the zcafe, AXN etc, stuff like Big Bang Theory and all and how ruthlessly they snip portions because they feel it is not appropriate for us, people resort to piracy and download the shows and watch the uncensored original version rather than the heavily censored Indian versions.

Although unrelated, recently was watching the Gangam style song which is in Rangrezz movie too, the song was coming on some channel and in that when the lyrics come as "Sexy Lady", they muted the sexy part. I mean WTF !!!

 

[Nerevarine]

I had stated this point somewhere else, ill state it again for Console games..
Almost all console games are imported, hence customs and other crap appy to them..
That means their price increases drastically of what it should be.. compare PC and console title prices..
In the end, people have no choice as shelling out Rs 3k for a single game is just too much..
Also consider this..Kaspersky Internet security is sold in US for 50$ for 1 year 1 PC..
but in India, they did a price revision for Rs 529 only (boxed pack) because it will sell more that way.. If other companies follow this , im sure they would sell a lot more.. Im not saying it would completely stop piracy.. but ATLEAST, they would be able to make more profit

 

[shreymittal]

Although unrelated, recently was watching the Gangam style song which is in Rangrezz movie too, the song was coming on some channel and in that when the lyrics come as "Sexy Lady", they muted the sexy part. I mean WTF !!!

What they think
"bhai bache bigad jayenge iss part ko mute kardo"...WTF..!!!!
And if a Porn Actress can be bollywood actress WTF the think we are "bhai isse bache ni bigadenge chalo Sunny Leone ko cast karlete hai" **** happens

 

[chaitanya2106]

What's your point ? You want to kill piracy because you are feeling guilty about doing it ?
Although there is no justification of piracy but when someone say is watching English TV shows on the zcafe, AXN etc, stuff like Big Bang Theory and all and how ruthlessly they snip portions because they feel it is not appropriate for us, people resort to piracy and download the shows and watch the uncensored original version rather than the heavily censored Indian versions.

Whats your point here? Would you like to hear someone say Boo*s when your mother is sitting besides you?
Apparently, I feel guilty about it. But the major culprit is the society that I live in which promotes piracy. Even people at high positions don't care whether they use original windows software or pirated one.

I had stated this point somewhere else, ill state it again for Console games..
Almost all console games are imported, hence customs and other crap appy to them..
That means their price increases drastically of what it should be.. compare PC and console title prices..
In the end, people have no choice as shelling out Rs 3k for a single game is just too much..

Why play that game at all when you can't afford it? Just because everyone is stealing does it mean you should also?

 

[Nerevarine]

why the hell not ? when americans and europeans pay much less than we do for the same thing ?
PS: I donot own a console and majourity of my PC games are original

And btw, if you want to be "the knight in shining armor" and take on piracy single handedly.. by all means go ahead..
As for me, I WILL ALWAYS PAY to buy things that DESERVE it..
Kaspersky is a prime example

 

[raksrules]

Whats your point here? Would you like to hear someone say Boo*s when your mother is sitting besides you?
Apparently, I feel guilty about it. But the major culprit is the society that I live in which promotes piracy. Even people at high positions don't care whether they use original windows software or pirated one.

Why play that game at all when you can't afford it? Just because everyone is stealing does it mean you should also?

You think the people see the uncensored versions before their folks ? Also in many cases the joke or something gets lost in the censoring. I would watch an uncensored version alone rather than watching a crippled one with everyone.

 

[chaitanya2106]

why the hell not ? when americans and europeans pay much less than we do for the same thing ?
PS: I donot own a console and majourity of my PC games are original

Is that a fault of the game developers? Does the fault of customs and taxes make you obligated to steal someone else's work? If you don't get 24-hour power supply in your city, would you love to steal it just because other cities get it?

You think the people see the uncensored versions before their folks ? Also in many cases the joke or something gets lost in the censoring. I would watch an uncensored version alone rather than watching a crippled one with everyone.

We would love if we get money without even working. But such things don't exist in this world. Neither should stealing.

And btw, if you want to be "the knight in shining armor" and take on piracy single handedly.. by all means go ahead..
As for me, I WILL ALWAYS PAY to buy things that DESERVE it..
Kaspersky is a prime example

What is your point when you yourself don't use pirated stuff?

 

[Nerevarine]

If these companies gave a rat's a$$ about launching games officially in India, then their prices would be waaaaay down..
Do some research on the internet, you will know what im talking about

What is your point when you yourself don't use pirated stuff?

I am simply giving you an answer, why piracy is much more rampant here in India..
An average indian just cant afford software that is priced 3X times of what it should be..
A McDonalds Happy meal in US costs 3-5$ but in india, its much less... WHY ?
Because People in USA have more average income.. Prices should be set according to this, not dollar to rupee translation like console games (with added tax)

 

[chaitanya2106]

If these companies gave a rat's a$$ about launching games officially in India, then their prices would be waaaaay down..
Do some research on the internet, you will know what im talking about

They don't, may be because they're allergic to people with your kind of attitude of stealing. It is not just India where they are not officially releasing. But I am sure when they realise that there is a real market here then we will have launches here. Though GTA IV is available at just Rs. 375

 

[Nerevarine]

^Allergic to people with my kind of attitude LOL.. Good one
Speaking of attitude, if they had "Kaspersky" or "McDonalds" kind of attitude, they would have made a lot more profit.. Just sayin
Again, I ask you to do some research about this before talking nonsense..
I think this topic has already been covered somewhere else in another thread

GTA IV is available at just Rs. 375

yep and that is a PC game, PC games are priced reasonably in India..but check the price of the console version of GTA IV

 

[theserpent]

americans and europeans pay more than us for the same game

Corrected

 

[chaitanya2106]

^Allergic to people with my kind of attitude LOL.. Good one
Speaking of attitude, if they had "Kaspersky" or "McDonalds" kind of attitude, they would have made a lot more profit.. Just sayin
Again, I ask you to do some research about this before talking nonsense..
I think this topic has already been covered somewhere else in another thread

They will , in the meantime , if you people stop stealing others hard work then may be they can consider. Just look at the way you wrote, instead of having respect to these developers that have made such awesome piece of software with their brains , you just think its their **** fault of not paying heed to indian markets & go on to steal it.

 

[theserpent]

If these companies gave a rat's a$$ about launching games officially in India, then their prices would be waaaaay down..
Do some research on the internet, you will know what im talking about


I am simply giving you an answer, why piracy is much more rampant here in India..
An average indian just cant afford software that is priced 3X times of what it should be..
A McDonalds Happy meal in US costs 3-5$ but in india, its much less... WHY ?
Because People in USA have more average income.. Prices should be set according to this, not dollar to rupee translation like console games (with added tax)

And the flow of money is more there, In India prices are going up everyday, but income is still the same.
A average employe in MCD over there rougly earns 400-1500$ a month comapred to 6000 Rs/monthly here

and another thing that goes here is I can buy that game for 100 rs why spend 1k for it?

 

[chaitanya2106]

I am simply giving you an answer, why piracy is much more rampant here in India..
An average indian just cant afford software that is priced 3X times of what it should be..
A McDonalds Happy meal in US costs 3-5$ but in india, its much less... WHY ?
Because People in USA have more average income.. Prices should be set according to this, not dollar to rupee translation like console games (with added tax)

Exactly the debate i wanted to have in this thread here whether average indian can afford original softwares. what can be done to bring down prices , that stuff..

and another thing that goes here is I can buy that game for 100 rs why spend 1k for it?

Again , you are not "buying" that game, you're "stealing" it.

 

[theserpent]

Exactly the debate i wanted to have in this thread here whether average indian can afford original softwares. what can be done to bring down prices , that stuff..

Well see you can't help it, bringing down the price(by say 40%) more will be nothing more than a loss to them.
Games in India are around 500-1k Max:1.5k..Only bethesda releases games for 2.5k which is too much
Yes, In great difficulty i convince my mom to get a 1k/1k+ game.
But if you want to buy orginal games you should check out Stean sales which have crazy deals sometimes

Whats your point here? Would you like to hear someone say Boo*s when your mother is sitting besides you?
Apparently, I feel guilty about it. But the major culprit is the society that I live in which promotes piracy. Even people at high positions don't care whether they use original windows software or pirated one.



Why play that game at all when you can't afford it? Just because everyone is stealing does it mean you should also?

See not all an afford the games, so they end buy pirating it, and some softwares are way out of reach of anyperson eg Photoshop which alone costs more than 400-500$

 

[chaitanya2106]

See not all an afford the games, so they end buy pirating it, and some softwares are way out of reach of anyperson eg Photoshop which alone costs more than 400-500$

Thats like saying , i cannot afford an iphone 5 but i will buy its pirated version, some chinese model, but the major difference is in software you're using the original stuff.

 

[rajatGod512]

Thats like saying , i cannot afford an iphone 5 but i will buy its pirated version, some chinese model, but the major difference is in software you're using the original stuff.

Nowadays studios are becoming smart and are focusing more on the multiplayer (online) side of the games . You cant (generally) play online if you have a pirated game . See , there is a difference. If anyone says that single player campaign is more than enough to get out of a game , then they are wrong as I said the multiplayer /co-op is becoming a great importance and a major selling point .

Moreover in India the general people (parents) think that playing a game is a huge waste of time , so their children often look to other means to get it . Hence Piracy. This is not that big of a issue in Developed countries.

Forget Piracy, India has much sensitive and basic issues , that we are still dealing with .

 

[Inceptionist]

Lets assume there is a 'perfect world' where people only buy softwares and movies that they can afford. In that 'perfect world' I won't be able to buy most of the movies, albums, tv shows and games that I have on my PC right now. So the companies won't get money from me. How is that different from this 'imperfect world' where I'm pirating stuff because I can't afford it or it is not available at all?

Judge: 17,000 illegal downloads don’t equal 17,000 lost sales | Ars Technica

Remember, piracy =/= stealing.

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[sumonpathak]

So...basically......they shouldn't price it right...but we would be made to cough up more than what people all over the world does..
seems a lot familiar like......blackmarket?
pardon me am a noob...but i dont really see the intelligence here..
and dont get me started on censoring stuff in India..