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Kniwor

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Help~Is~Here said:
The E6750 has the new G0 stepping which is much better and cheper compared to the older E6600 B3 stepping. Refer my post in the last page: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=563116&postcount=78

there's no E6600 B3 as I mentioned earlier.

and, by the looks of this post it seemed that u meant E6750 has two steppings. well if u say u meant that for Q6600, so be it... I don't care as long as the facts are right.

*img50.imageshack.us/img50/6043/hihis0.jpg


goobimama said:
Also, can someone provide a guide to these Core 2 Duo numbers....confuse the hell out of me.

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 3.00GHz 1333 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 2.93GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 2.66GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6540 2.33GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz 1066 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 1.86GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz 1066 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 2.40GHz 800 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.20GHz 800 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00GHz 800 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.80GHz 800 2MB
Intel Pentium E2180 2.00GHz 800 1MB
Intel Pentium E2160 1.80GHz 800 1MB
Intel Pentium E2140 1.60GHz 800 1MB
 
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keith_j_snyder2

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Kniwor said:
there's no E6600 B3 as I mentioned earlier.

and, by the looks of this post it seemed that u meant E6750 has two steppings. well if u say u meant that for Q6600, so be it... I don't care as long as the facts are right.

*img50.imageshack.us/img50/6043/hihis0.jpg




Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 3.00GHz 1333 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 2.93GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 2.66GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz 1066 4MBx2
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6540 2.33GHz 1333 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz 1066 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 1.86GHz 1066 4MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz 1066 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 2.40GHz 800 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.20GHz 800 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00GHz 800 2MB
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.80GHz 800 2MB
Intel Pentium E2180 2.00GHz 800 1MB
Intel Pentium E2160 1.80GHz 800 1MB
Intel Pentium E2140 1.60GHz 800 1MB

Bro if i am not mistaking...then the only difference between a E6700 & E 6750 is the FSB?
I might not able to get exactly this "Stepping" thing but if there is a E6750 it will be of 1333 FSB not like E6750 of 1066 MHZ FSB.
Above in ur list u have mentioned all the C2Duos available but there is nothing like Q6600 (A) and Q6600 (B) or else some STEPPING.
But i believe if there will be something like Q6600 with 1333 MHz FSB then it might be named as Q6650 or else...

Humor me...

Give me some more tips on this G0 or B3 stepping stuff, is it just same thing as FSB or something else?
 

Kniwor

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keith_j_snyder2 said:
Bro if i am not mistaking...then the only difference between a E6700 & E 6750 is the FSB?
I might not able to get exactly this "Stepping" thing but if there is a E6750 it will be of 1333 FSB not like E6750 of 1066 MHZ FSB.
Above in ur list u have mentioned all the C2Duos available but there is nothing like Q6600 (A) and Q6600 (B) or else some STEPPING.
But i believe if there will be something like Q6600 with 1333 MHz FSB then it might be named as Q6650 or else...

Humor me...

Give me some more tips on this G0 or B3 stepping stuff, is it just same thing as FSB or something else?

U can put it that way, but there's a bit more to t, the E6750 having higher FSB has a lower CPU multipler, than the E6700. And yes, there's nothing like an E6750 of 1066FSB.

That lst is only the list of processors, and has no info on what stepping those processors are, but irrespective of what stepping a QXXXX, or EXXXX is, a fixed model number will have a fixed FSB, multipler, speed and cache. it could have been released with many steppings. as is the case with E6300/6400/Q6600 etc...

The G0 and B3 steppings have nothing to do with FSB, there are G0 stepping processors with 1066FSB as well as 1333FSB, it's not related to FSB, just that al new E6X50 processors, with 1333FSB are released in G0 stepping, infact all 1333FSB processors are G0 stepping. Does not mean that there cannot be a 1066Mhz G0 stepping processor(QX6800 for example).
 

a_k_s_h_a_y

Dreaming
fine with that stepping
but then we can over clock any C2D CPU right ???
like you have done with urs !! and what abt the warranty ?? originally how much is it ??
and what about the heat problem how do control that ???
like you are doing ?? plzz enlighten me about this Kniwor !!!!
 
mukherjee said:
may seem like nOOb question....
but wat xactly is 'stepping' thing? wat doz it influence?

'Stepping' is something like a different version. Although you might have 2 processors running at similar speeds, different steppings for the 2 processors will give you different performance.

There are a few things that are affected by the different stepping, namely as of now the B3 and the G0 stepping. Let's take the example of a Q6600 with B3 and G0 stepping.

A Q6600 processor with the B3 stepping consumes more power about 105W while the G0 stepping Q6600 consumes only about 95W, now what that decrease in power does is not only save you on power but also decreases the heat produced allowing it to run more efficiently. This is just one of the advantage, if you really want to know all of them, then please try doing a google and lot of sites will explain it in detail to you.

Unless you are a overclocking or a keen technology enthusiast, the B3 or G0 stepping would make one bit of difference for you.
 

keith_j_snyder2

Rising ApocalypsE
Kniwor said:
U can put it that way, but there's a bit more to t, the E6750 having higher FSB has a lower CPU multipler, than the E6700. And yes, there's nothing like an E6750 of 1066FSB.

That lst is only the list of processors, and has no info on what stepping those processors are, but irrespective of what stepping a QXXXX, or EXXXX is, a fixed model number will have a fixed FSB, multipler, speed and cache. it could have been released with many steppings. as is the case with E6300/6400/Q6600 etc...

The G0 and B3 steppings have nothing to do with FSB, there are G0 stepping processors with 1066FSB as well as 1333FSB, it's not related to FSB, just that al new E6X50 processors, with 1333FSB are released in G0 stepping, infact all 1333FSB processors are G0 stepping. Does not mean that there cannot be a 1066Mhz G0 stepping processor(QX6800 for example).

Hehehe....I thought i asked Help~is~Here about the stepping coz i saw his shown Q6600 pic & actually quoted the above picture but no offense & doesn't even matter who is answering as long the info is delievered.

So the whole point, is we can go for 1333 MHz FSB processors which all are G0 stepping, without any problem & one has to be cautious about the series which are having 1066 MHz FSB in which some are B3 as well as G0 stepping.....am i right?

Well thaks for the above info!

And please post some links which can clearly specify the STEPPING concept (ANYONE)
 

mukherjee

Treatment in progress...
@Help~is~Here..........thanks


btw,i wud like to see some links to that effect....

nebody listening?
 

Kniwor

Learner
Cant find any description of CPU stepping on net, but here's my perception, and this is strictly my personal thoughts.

Basically the process of manufacturing a certain product keeps improving, as a result, the same product is often manufactured in different ways, it can be minor bug fixes, or just an improvement in manufacturing process, AMD hence uses the term "revision number" and Intel uses "Stepping" for the same. The product specification and performance is not affected by stepping number, but other attributes can be affected, that can be of interest to us enthusiasts. A new stepping will almost never have extra features or anything like it, just minor bug fixes n all. But then again, maybe there's more to steppings and revisions than what I think, this is just how i understand it.

Please do not confuse stepping with natural difference in manufacturing process, that can be caused by other reasons like different manufacturing plants n all...
 
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janitha

Wise Old Owl
Here are two links related to CPU stepping, which google gave me within seconds.
*www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/29
*www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.aspx?i=6
 

Kniwor

Learner
hey thanks for that, though the Anandtech link has confused me further, I thought a new stepping wasn't supposed to introduce any new features, though anandtech does not imply it does, but they're kinda unclear on this one.
 

BULLZI

Ambassador of Buzz
guyz,Q6600 has got a huge price cut bt i didnt find info about Q6700 and QX6700.Are these two a;so incuded in the price cut?
 

keith_j_snyder2

Rising ApocalypsE
Ok now i hope many of us understand what is stepping.
Now how to Check it?
Well check the link out:
*www.thefreeimagehosting.com/Uploads/Images/5615214062500Stepping.jpg

If i am not wrong the Above picture is B3 Stepping...right Kniwor?
 
keith_j_snyder2 said:
Ok now i hope many of us understand what is stepping.
Now how to Check it?
Well check the link out:
*www.thefreeimagehosting.com/Uploads/Images/5615214062500Stepping.jpg

If i am not wrong the Above picture is B3 Stepping...right Kniwor?

The above posted pic shows a B3 stepping. Notice the last bit of it?

If it says SL9UM, then it's B3, or if it says SLACR, then it's a G0 stepping.
 

Kniwor

Learner
keith_j_snyder2 said:
Ok now i hope many of us understand what is stepping.
Now how to Check it?
Well check the link out:
*www.thefreeimagehosting.com/Uploads/Images/5615214062500Stepping.jpg

If i am not wrong the Above picture is B3 Stepping...right Kniwor?

yeah that's B3,

In short, all 1333FSB processors are G0

all 1066 FSB processors are B2/B3/L2 with following exceptions that are G0
The SLACP QX6800
The SLACR Q6600
The SLACQ Q6700.

Complete information is available on Intel website, just go look there na yaar, it will be accurate too...
 

cynosure

UbuntuUser
AFAIK they have, but their price cut is not as much as that of Q6600 (~50%).
So they are still out of reach of guys like me.:)
And why are you asking about 6700 prices? For almost double the price, they are only 250-300Mhz faster. This makes no sense coz one can overclock a Q6600 on stock anyways.

Q6600 FTW.
 
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