gopi_vbboy
Cyborg Agent
'India has exam system, not education system' - The Times of India
Whats your take?
India has exam system, not education system
'India has exam system, not education system' - The Times of India
Whats your take?
Piyush
Lanaya
this was indeed a well said statement and of course, a fact
if we keep schooling days aside, what can we expect from our edu system?
i agree that there are enough colleges but where are the quality ones?
the whole country is filled with engg colleges
seems like our country is in the need of only engineers
there are very few good colleges for medical side
but wait...we have so many colleges in medical side...but they are mostly dental colleges
looks like our teeth are the top priority
with so much population in our country, we still are not able to prove the world that we can be a power in the world
when we say that India will be the most dominating nation in 2030s/2040s...we say that on the basis of our economy...poor people are getting poorer and rich people are getting richer
if we keep schooling days aside, what can we expect from our edu system?
i agree that there are enough colleges but where are the quality ones?
the whole country is filled with engg colleges
seems like our country is in the need of only engineers
there are very few good colleges for medical side
but wait...we have so many colleges in medical side...but they are mostly dental colleges
looks like our teeth are the top priority
with so much population in our country, we still are not able to prove the world that we can be a power in the world
when we say that India will be the most dominating nation in 2030s/2040s...we say that on the basis of our economy...poor people are getting poorer and rich people are getting richer
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gopi_vbboy
Cyborg Agent
our education system need changes....someone like anna has to lead to change it
We do have a growing middle class.
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gopi_vbboy
Cyborg Agent
education is a big business today...not service..thats the problem (atleast in engg)
Piyush
Lanaya
well these stats are true for metropolitan cities and cities neighboring it
i was taking the stats as an average dealing combining all the cities of the country
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
Spot on.
Our education system is full of outdated crap that, and discourages innovation and forces students to go towards rote education. Plagarism is rampant and students are encouraged to copy assignments, and copy paste projects in a rat race to get marks rather than learning or participating in projects and training. Students are only expected to sit and attend classes whether it will do good or not, rather than giving them freedom to be working on papers or projects if they wish so.
Just crap exams are there, where students are expected just to fill sheets and nothing else. Marks are allocated like random in government universities, while in case of private autonomous colleges, half of them offer extra marks to help their students.
Engineering is complete bullshit, and just produces lakhs of dumbtards year after year, not exactly their fault but they are misguided to the core by the so called "teachers" most of whom are clueless with their own subjects, and the books and the course they are based on is completely out of date, bordering on looking like retarded in this time. Heck the best of colleges select the streams or course based on knowledge of some selected subjects, rather than testing for the aptitude in the respective stream. Thus most students and parents are involved in a rat-race to get admission to best colleges, and there comes the those bloody coaching institutes, which are in actuality a business than anything else.
Education is rampant with corruption and money-laundering, private colleges are in a race to get admissions and cheat students with their lies about "100% placement" among other crap, and just fill their campuses with students more than their infrastructure can handle. In other places there are like 2 room colleges which don't even fulfill the basic needs of students. And there are crappy government colleges, filled with corrupt staff, and is just a place of politics. Exam delays, paper leaks, and what not?
A Microscopic minority of colleges may be good but they can't touch best of universities in the world by a longshot.
But what can one expect, heck even the CBSE which should actually work well barely updates its syllabi with subject matter being same outdated crap.
Many Europeans and Americans just call India a factory for producing clueless graduates, and the sad thing is they are dead right.
Our education system is full of outdated crap that, and discourages innovation and forces students to go towards rote education. Plagarism is rampant and students are encouraged to copy assignments, and copy paste projects in a rat race to get marks rather than learning or participating in projects and training. Students are only expected to sit and attend classes whether it will do good or not, rather than giving them freedom to be working on papers or projects if they wish so.
Just crap exams are there, where students are expected just to fill sheets and nothing else. Marks are allocated like random in government universities, while in case of private autonomous colleges, half of them offer extra marks to help their students.
Engineering is complete bullshit, and just produces lakhs of dumbtards year after year, not exactly their fault but they are misguided to the core by the so called "teachers" most of whom are clueless with their own subjects, and the books and the course they are based on is completely out of date, bordering on looking like retarded in this time. Heck the best of colleges select the streams or course based on knowledge of some selected subjects, rather than testing for the aptitude in the respective stream. Thus most students and parents are involved in a rat-race to get admission to best colleges, and there comes the those bloody coaching institutes, which are in actuality a business than anything else.
Education is rampant with corruption and money-laundering, private colleges are in a race to get admissions and cheat students with their lies about "100% placement" among other crap, and just fill their campuses with students more than their infrastructure can handle. In other places there are like 2 room colleges which don't even fulfill the basic needs of students. And there are crappy government colleges, filled with corrupt staff, and is just a place of politics. Exam delays, paper leaks, and what not?
A Microscopic minority of colleges may be good but they can't touch best of universities in the world by a longshot.
But what can one expect, heck even the CBSE which should actually work well barely updates its syllabi with subject matter being same outdated crap.
Many Europeans and Americans just call India a factory for producing clueless graduates, and the sad thing is they are dead right.
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gopi_vbboy
Cyborg Agent
+1 agree...even i have gone though this feeling in engineering
but its parents pressure in that makes you to join the race ....me being middle class cant risk cos we have to support parents after they retire...
and society that guides you on what is famous....all this confuses students for taking risk in career they aspire
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gopi_vbboy
Cyborg Agent
same feeling 
vamsi_krishna
Human Spambot
I feel like I am a dumbtard and a clueless graduate.
Don't worry. 95% are feeling the same. 4% are not realizing it. 1% of folks, well... gotta give it to them.
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Deleted member 26636
Guest
i am not a graduate & maybe i never will be...i gave up engg. after two months of joining to pursue a course that truly inspired & motivated me. Something that i was always passionate about. my parents were also supportive so i guess i was lucky.i also do not plan on going to an office & staying in a job for the rest of my life. i am not bragging but i believe if you know what you want to do, you can always do it...but you need a well formed plan. hard work does not equal success but smart hard work does. you have to know why you are doing what you are doing. most graduates in india are a result of people not knowing what they want to do & joining any course that his friend or neighbor is pursuing or talks about. this needs to change. people should utilise their time to think of something new instead of staying buried in books & appearing for all the exams in the world just because everyone else is doing it.
nims11
BIOS Terminator
i am in midst of these engineering entrances and feeling the same. i can't do anything new nowadays in the fear that i might not get C.Sc in a good college if i don't get my PCM right for these exams.
When you ask many of my classmates - "What do you want to do?"
most of them say - "I wanaa crack IIT-JEE" and no plans for future. the system is forcing students to think short-term with no long term aims and goals. there is a friend of my dad whose son recently cracked IIT-JEE. the guy(my dad's friend) is very annoying and i feel like hitting him whenever he talks to me giving free advice. he says to me - "Get through IIT and then get a 50lakh job, get married and take your wife to switzerland". he also criticized my "love for computer" as useless and said that it wont help me get a "good job".
When you ask many of my classmates - "What do you want to do?"
most of them say - "I wanaa crack IIT-JEE" and no plans for future. the system is forcing students to think short-term with no long term aims and goals. there is a friend of my dad whose son recently cracked IIT-JEE. the guy(my dad's friend) is very annoying and i feel like hitting him whenever he talks to me giving free advice. he says to me - "Get through IIT and then get a 50lakh job, get married and take your wife to switzerland". he also criticized my "love for computer" as useless and said that it wont help me get a "good job".
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gopi_vbboy
Cyborg Agent
^^ even i comprised computer science seat in a avg collg for a electrical engg seat in top college...but i regret cos i loved cs so much but had to compromise for colg..but in the end i realised its ur interest thats important...not degree...we can be enterpreneurs if we have a real passion n vision
iit guys don't get 50lk job...may be 5lk to 12lk...the avg a iima cand gets is 18-25lk...50lk is myth
iit guys don't get 50lk job...may be 5lk to 12lk...the avg a iima cand gets is 18-25lk...50lk is myth
nims11
BIOS Terminator
branches should be allotted on basis of aptitude of a particular student towards that subject. i know its difficult to implement but something can obviously be done.
i feel weird by that wont be getting C.Sc in IIT even though i feel like crossing the cutoff because a guy with a 3 digit rank has scored more than me in PCM.
i was tempted to point that out in front of that "guy".
i feel weird by that wont be getting C.Sc in IIT even though i feel like crossing the cutoff because a guy with a 3 digit rank has scored more than me in PCM.
i was tempted to point that out in front of that "guy".
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Deleted member 26636
Guest
this is a matter of great concern...if you loved Computer Science, you should have thought about what you can do with it instead of worrying about the college & getting a job. if you have to learn PCM for this, consider it as paying your dues or a sacrifice. once you get in you should worry about your long term plans instead of thinking about getting a job & marrying a girl & settling down. india has so much potential that is being wasted. break the system. as the great poet percy bysshe shelley once said " Everyone is gifted. but some people never open their package ". this is exactly whats going on in our country.
Liverpool_fan
Sami Hyypiä, LFC legend
No need to regret. CS Engineering is shite, and you learn absolutely nought by the "courseware". Speaking from erm ...Experience.
nims11
BIOS Terminator
No need to regret. CS Engineering is shite, and you learn absolutely nought by the "courseware". Speaking from erm ...Experience.
i heard from many that they dont teach well in college and i have prepared myself so that i can atleast learn things on my own if i get C.Sc!!
abhijangda
Padawan
The main problem is that everyone wants to get fame, everyone wants to get popular. And for engineers, it is easy if you get admission in any of IITs or NITs. All think that when they will get into these institutions they will be very popular in their locality and hence will easily be able to get a girl friend also will get good placement. Even parents think so. If this would change then everything will change.
