Graphics Cards related queries here.

But why? I mean is there a reason to highlight only RX6500 performance with red colour considering the review seems to be for 3050(the green bars while rest are blue except for RX6500).
As both were supposed to be budget next gen cards, 6500XT & 3050, with MSRP of $200 & $250 respectively. So in an ideal world of MSRP, that $200 RX 6500XT makes 0 sense, heck it is worse than GTX 1650S which was $150 before GPU shortage. Atleast RTX 3050 is similar to 1660S with just RT cores added. 6500XT lacks hardware acceleration for video recording, runs at PCIe 4.0 x4 at max (x4 hurts it a lot in older mobo).

If you didn't get it, it is team green vs team red.
 

whitestar_999

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As both were supposed to be budget next gen cards, 6500XT & 3050, with MSRP of $200 & $250 respectively. So in an ideal world of MSRP, that $200 RX 6500XT makes 0 sense, heck it is worse than GTX 1650S which was $150 before GPU shortage. Atleast RTX 3050 is similar to 1660S with just RT cores added. 6500XT lacks hardware acceleration for video recording, runs at PCIe 4.0 x4 at max (x4 hurts it a lot in older mobo).

If you didn't get it, it is team green vs team red.
I can see now why I didn't get it at first as I am not a gamer. Btw why does it matter if 6500XT runs at max pcie4.0 x4 as older mobos pcie3.0 x16 bandwidth is still more than pcie4.0 x4 as per wiki table.
 
I can see now why I didn't get it at first as I am not a gamer. Btw why does it matter if 6500XT runs at max pcie4.0 x4 as older mobos pcie3.0 x16 bandwidth is still more than pcie4.0 x4 as per wiki table.
Bandwidth of PCIe 4.0 x4 is same as PCIe 3.0 x8:
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So in older mobos, 6500XT will be limited to PCIe 3.0 x4 as it just has 4 lanes. Hence the disparity in 6500XT numbers.
 

whitestar_999

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So in older mobos, 6500XT will be limited to PCIe 3.0 x4 as it just has 4 lanes. Hence the disparity in 6500XT numbers.
The wording confused me, so basically 6500XT has 4 pcie lanes(I was comparing pcie 3.0 x16 bandwidth with pcie 4.0 x4 assuming that this card has 16 pcie lanes but somehow can use only 4 of them in pcie 4.0 slot). This is quite weird, how did this happen.
 
The wording confused me, so basically 6500XT has 4 pcie lanes(I was comparing pcie 3.0 x16 bandwidth with pcie 4.0 x4 assuming that this card has 16 pcie lanes but somehow can use only 4 of them in pcie 4.0 slot). This is quite weird, how did this happen.
AMD planned 6500XT to be a laptop only GPU initially (laptop CPUs have 8 lanes though) but pushed it for gamers during crypto fever.
 

whitestar_999

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AMD planned 6500XT to be a laptop only GPU initially (laptop CPUs have 8 lanes though) but pushed it for gamers during crypto fever.
Let's hope this crypto fever dies down & graphics card prices come back to their usual level. Even though I am not a gamer but having a decent budget tier card like 1650 for around 12k is always a good option to have.
 
Let's hope this crypto fever dies down & graphics card prices come back to their usual level. Even though I am not a gamer but having a decent budget tier card like 1650 for around 12k is always a good option to have.
Prices for higher end GPUs have fell a lot but not for budget ones. Seems like they are killing budget line ups. 6500XT is actually a bad card for even 17-18k it goes for, better to get old 1650 as used for cheaper.

A friend recently bought Powercolor Red Devil RX 6800XT for 80k.
 

bubusam13

Human
Hi, I have a few queries. Does 6500XT have raytracing? I have a B450 motherboard which is having PCIe 3.0 x16 slot. How much performance loss is expected in a real-world scenario, like if we get 75 FPS in a Game with PCIe 4.0, how much can we expect in 3.0 ?

I am getting Inno3D and Galax RTX3060 cards cheap. Will these be a good choice for casual gaming, video editing, and learning Unreal Engine (started recently)
 

Nerevarine

Incarnate
Hi, I have a few queries. Does 6500XT have raytracing? I have a B450 motherboard which is having PCIe 3.0 x16 slot. How much performance loss is expected in a real-world scenario, like if we get 75 FPS in a Game with PCIe 4.0, how much can we expect in 3.0 ?

I am getting Inno3D and Galax RTX3060 cards cheap. Will these be a good choice for casual gaming, video editing, and learning Unreal Engine (started recently)
You can check performance loss on the graph. The issue is it is a card which has x4 lanes, doesnt matter if your mobo has x16 lanes available. The card is gonna use x4. And since 3.0 x4 is a lot slower than 4.0 x4, it performs worse.

omega explains it better.
 

whitestar_999

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Prices for higher end GPUs have fell a lot but not for budget ones. Seems like they are killing budget line ups. 6500XT is actually a bad card for even 17-18k it goes for, better to get old 1650 as used for cheaper.

A friend recently bought Powercolor Red Devil RX 6800XT for 80k.
So no chance of seeing a card in 20-22k price range which justifies its price even in future, that's sad.
 
Hi, I have a few queries. Does 6500XT have raytracing? I have a B450 motherboard which is having PCIe 3.0 x16 slot. How much performance loss is expected in a real-world scenario, like if we get 75 FPS in a Game with PCIe 4.0, how much can we expect in 3.0 ?

I am getting Inno3D and Galax RTX3060 cards cheap. Will these be a good choice for casual gaming, video editing, and learning Unreal Engine (started recently)
TLDR - Get RX 6600 for 31k instead or some RTX 2060 for 25-26k, if you get one. Don't even think of ray tracing unless you have a GPU like 3060Ti at least.

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Some games aren't affected by PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 much, but where it does, you will suffer a lot. It can potentially get this bad when it doesn't even provide 1050Ti like performance. With games getting more demanding with time, maybe more games will be this bad on PCIe 3.0:

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quicky008

Technomancer
i bought a galax gt 710 to use as a display device in a pc. On connecting the monitor to its vga port,it doesn't give any output and my monitor can't detect any incoming signal.

However when i connect the monitor to its hdmi port using a hdmi-vga adapter (using the same vga cable),there's video output.

I rechecked the vga port once again and made sure the cable was connected securely,but still couldn't get any output from it,whereas the card's hdmi port seems to work fine.

Is the gpu's vga port defective?Should i submit it for RMA?
 

whitestar_999

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Staff member
i bought a galax gt 710 to use as a display device in a pc. On connecting the monitor to its vga port,it doesn't give any output and my monitor can't detect any incoming signal.

However when i connect the monitor to its hdmi port using a hdmi-vga adapter (using the same vga cable),there's video output.

I rechecked the vga port once again and made sure the cable was connected securely,but still couldn't get any output from it,whereas the card's hdmi port seems to work fine.

Is the gpu's vga port defective?Should i submit it for RMA?
What is the monitor model? Try with some other monitor.
 

quicky008

Technomancer
I had used this monitor with a gt 730 earlier and it ran fine. Anyway i will return it to the seller from whom it was purchased for further testing.
 
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