Graphics Cards related queries here.

thetechfreak

thetechfreak

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Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

bottleneckin reffered your processor slowing down your gpu nothing else.

He meant its time to get faster, better proccesor.

Nothing to do wid monitor
 
asingh

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

Actually once you move to 1080pi or greater most CPU bottleneck disappears. The GPU is churning it all out.
 
tkin

tkin

Back to school!!
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

asingh said:
Actually once you move to 1080pi or greater most CPU bottleneck disappears. The GPU is churning it all out.
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Not for recent console ports, GTA4 was very cpu bound, and Crysis 2 is here:
*img.inpai.com.cn/article/2011/2/24/ffc94f90-3b77-47f1-8c84-93bf84472c92.png

See that the E8400 is slower than quad cores by 25%, and thats at 1080P, thats also because newer game engines can use quad cores, battlefield 3 will also use quad cores effectively, and BFBC2 also does that, do you remember Red Faction Armageddon? That game had some very heavy physics calculations(Havok) running on CPU. Usually lower resolutions is generally CPU bound but for a card as fast as GTX580 E7300 won't do good at 1080P, specially in multicore games.
 
asingh

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
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Tkin:
If you take it relative to another strain of CPUs, of course you will see a stark difference. I am talking about the users CPU vs. his GPU, and it being held back. Those are decent playable frames.
:)
 
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clear_lot

Journeyman
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

Not for recent console ports, GTA4 was very cpu bound
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just for the info, toms did an article some time back on bottlenecking. gta4 was both cpu and gpu bound. either OC or more cores or better gpu resulted in more fps.

actually they praised the game engine for its ability to benefit from anything extra you threw at it!

also, they concluded the average no of cores utilised across 20 or so games was 2.75.
their recommendation: if you have a single core, go for a quad core.
if you already have a dual core @ 3.33ghz, upgrade your gpu.
 
thetechfreak

thetechfreak

Legend Never Ends
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

clear_lot said:
if you already have a dual core @ 3.33ghz, upgrade your gpu.
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THis is gonna change very soon after Windows 8 comes out(probably)
clear_lot said:
just for the info, toms did an article some time back on bottlenecking. gta4 was both cpu and gpu bound. either OC or more cores or better gpu resulted in more fps.
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Spot On. After I OC'ed my Celeron I got around 4 fps more in GTA IV. I havent heard of many people who got GTA IV running in a Celeron but I am one of them? Secret?
9500gt

Before I had that card GTA IV was running at 30 frames per minute. But when I got that card it runs at 20-25 fps. HUGE improvement.
 
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Zishi

Broken In
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

plz tell me GTX 560 ti price in New Delhi... and is it better then HD 6870....
 
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clear_lot

Journeyman
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

^msi gtx560ti twin frozr II @ smcinternational.in.
priced at 14.8k.
yes, its definitely better than 6870. if you OC, you can reach gtx 570 levels.



@thetechfreak

THis is gonna change very soon after Windows 8 comes out(probably)
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how? and "soon" is i think somewhere in q2 2013
 
asingh

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

clear_lot said:
just for the info, toms did an article some time back on bottlenecking. gta4 was both cpu and gpu bound. either OC or more cores or better gpu resulted in more fps.

actually they praised the game engine for its ability to benefit from anything extra you threw at it!

also, they concluded the average no of cores utilised across 20 or so games was 2.75.
their recommendation: if you have a single core, go for a quad core.
if you already have a dual core @ 3.33ghz, upgrade your gpu.
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Could you link to the article. Would be really interesting to read.
 
vickybat

vickybat

I am the night...I am...
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

@ tkin

Hyperthreading in the core i3 530 and i5 661 does a great job in the test considering they are dual cores. They perform almost similar with their quad core counterparts in games.

Crysis 2 is really a bottleneck for lga 775 based dual cores.
 
asingh

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

Guys also do remember. GTA IV was extremelly GPU un-friendly.
 
damngoodman999

damngoodman999

damnbadman666
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Its really amazing i got my hands on GTX 560ti Direct cu II , i tested out with CRYSIS 2

CPU : Amd phenom 2 940 @ 3.4Ghz
GPU : GTX 560ti @ 880/1050

Resolution : 1680 X 1050 @ Advanced setup

Using Fraps - Lower FPS - 98
Avg Fps - 143
Higher - 170

This is really incredible !
 
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clear_lot

Journeyman
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Could you link to the article. Would be really interesting to read.
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part1 :
The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 1 : 20 Games To Help Uncover The Bottlenecks

part 2:
The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2 : 20 Games To Help Uncover Bottlenecks And Test Settings

@ damngoodman999

from where did you get the card?
 
funkysourav

funkysourav

What The.... !!!
Re: Graphics Cards related "general" queries here.

finally bought myself a sapphire HD6850
The card is arriving tomorrow morning

Guys which softwares should i install now?
Please add them to this list (no OCing)
1)ATI Catalyst WHQL driver (10.3/10.4 which one is more stable?)
2)Driver Sweeper
3)HWMonitor Pro
4)SpeedFan

Do i need to reinstall my OS to install the GPU?
I am using stock CM310 Cabinet , VX450 PSU
The 2xBlademaster 120 mm fans have not arrived yet (3 days more)
so basically i am stuck with just one stock exhaust fan till the Blades arrive,
will that create problems like overheating?
 
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