Graphics Cards related queries here.

squid

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Re: All Graphics Cards related queries here.

Hi, will Radeon 3850 512 MB works in hybrid crossfire mode with the Gigabyte MA78GPM-Ds2h motherboard. and is there any other better PCIE 2.0 card below Rs.8000 for this motherboard.
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imgame2

Padawan
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^Ya. Intel's old habbit of poking nose into everything. I think it will be good. Read the article "This Means War" in Digit. Nice architecture by Intel.

an architecture is good for consumer only if it performs good,there are many many example throughout the history of technology...when a technology was good but failed to make an impact cos it was inefficient,expensive and many other reasons.

right now one technology i can remember is of RDRAM which showed a lot of promise in SDRAM age and vanished without a trace....this is just one of the many many example which shows that architecture might look good on paper ....but performance is the real story of it all.

hence,let larrabee come and then we can say after its performance if its architecture is worth or not? intel had many architecture failure to its credit too!!

but its good for consumers they get the best of these new designs.

with a multi gpu configuration , one entire gpu will be dedicated for physX calculations . .if not 8400GS , a 8600GT is certainly enough to do physX calculations while the 9800GTX+ or gtx 280 do the graphics. . even by ur calculations, i think 8400GS will come upto atleast 10% performance as of gtx280. .so that should be enough for physX.

i am answering this late cos i was not sure about the working of SLI and if it allows different GPU's. as i was able to find out the SLI only allow the same GPU's to work in SLI mode

SLI-Ready Graphics Card: This should be fairly obvious - if you don't have an SLI-ready video card, you can't run SLI! In order to enable SLI, the two video cards must be of the same family and model. For example, two 8800 GTXs could run in SLI while an 8800 GTX and an 8800 GTS could not because there are numerous discrepancies between them that could not be compensated for despite the fact they are closely related. Unlike the days where SLI had just been brought back from the dead, the two cards do not have to be from the same manufacturer, have the same BIOS, be the same speed or even have the same amount of VRAM.

source - *forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=8316

so u will have to put two 9800GTX+ or 8800's in SLI if u want to do anything with PhysX!and not a 9800GTX+ and 8600 gs
 
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spikygv

Wise Old Owl
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^^ i'm not talking about SLI .. for a multi gpu config , u need two pcie slots , thats all .. no need for a SLI or X-fire enabled mobo ( although this will also work ). .

definitely u can use 8400GS and 9800GTX+ as multi gpus .. they wont work under SLI. thats all. the two gpu's wont do AFR. . only one renders the graphics and other idles. . here i'm suggesting that the idle gpu be used for physX. .
 

tkin

Back to school!!
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@ imgame2 & tkin

i contacted rashi kolkata 2de....they dont have the new 9800GTX+ in stock,the older 9800GTX is avlabl @ 15k+tax :( :x

tirupati hv confirmed that they hv both gecube & palit hd4850 cards w/ 3yr warranty @11k+tax :|
they dont yet have the palit hd4850 sonic and neither can they bring on order :( :(

called up lynx store 2de,talkd wid amarveer......he confirmed the superb zotac rates.....and he too confirmed that the palit hd4850 sonic isnt yet available anywhere......too bad for imgame2!!!
another thing.....its possible to get warranty(& rma if reqd) on Zotac card from aditya branch in Kolkata,even if the card is bought from lynx....jus a call is needed..... :D

still, d 9800gtx+ is a very long card,10.5 inches long,i havent figured out hw wud i fit dat into my zeb antibiotic case evn if i buy it.....may just hv to go wid the hd4850!!! :)
Thanks for doing that, much appreciated.Sorry for not responding right away.
May be off topic, but this guy posting videos in Youtube owns the best gaming hardwares that money can buy right now- *in.youtube.com/user/maxishine
You can actually view the performances of the best ATI(HD4870x2):D and nVidia(9800gx2 x 2-Quad SLI):D cards here.Also features other hardwares too.
 

imgame2

Padawan
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@ imgame2 & tkin

i contacted rashi kolkata 2de....they dont have the new 9800GTX+ in stock,the older 9800GTX is avlabl @ 15k+tax :( :x

tirupati hv confirmed that they hv both gecube & palit hd4850 cards w/ 3yr warranty @11k+tax :|
they dont yet have the palit hd4850 sonic and neither can they bring on order :( :(

called up lynx store 2de,talkd wid amarveer......he confirmed the superb zotac rates.....and he too confirmed that the palit hd4850 sonic isnt yet available anywhere......too bad for imgame2!!!
another thing.....its possible to get warranty(& rma if reqd) on Zotac card from aditya branch in Kolkata,even if the card is bought from lynx....jus a call is needed..... :D

still, d 9800gtx+ is a very long card,10.5 inches long,i havent figured out hw wud i fit dat into my zeb antibiotic case evn if i buy it.....may just hv to go wid the hd4850!!! :)

ya its sad that sonic is not available ...but looks like prices are coming down ....sapphire is available for 10.7 (including taxes and shipping).but i guess thats the same price i would get in my place at this point of time now.

i mailed tirupati and they told me they don't have zotac but they do have evga 9800gtx+ but when i asked for rates they mailed me back.

i don't have space constraint for me like u ...but will still go for hd4850 beacuse 9800gtx+ is not available and if it is its @ insane prices 15k +taxes.

^^ i'm not talking about SLI .. for a multi gpu config , u need two pcie slots , thats all .. no need for a SLI or X-fire enabled mobo ( although this will also work ). .

definitely u can use 8400GS and 9800GTX+ as multi gpus .. they wont work under SLI. thats all. the two gpu's wont do AFR. . only one renders the graphics and other idles. . here i'm suggesting that the idle gpu be used for physX. .

are u sure that could be configured that way ? cos output is only one and then there has to driver support which lets the other GPU as simply for physX. .....but even then i don't think its worth having a board with two pcie slots,this way ?use it either for crossfire or SLI whatever it supports
 
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tkin

Back to school!!
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It's not just the 4800. It's the problem with few nVidia chipsets that resulted in decline of nvidia's share value.

anyways, I still do hope that nVidia recover and be competitive.

Now that Intel is getting ready with Larrabee and AMD getting ready with Fusion, nVidia needs a miracle to save itself.

PS: Hunter becomes hunted :)
If nVidia does'nt recover soon ATI will have the market to it's own and the prices of ATI products will rise again and the company will not invest time persuing new features related to gaming.It's the competition that drives the market.Long live ATI-nVidia war(Hope Intel joins soon)
Rs 10,000/- GTX280 anyone?:D
 

tkin

Back to school!!
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I'm thinking of getting either the Cooler Master Ammo 533 or the Centurian 534+ cabinet.If anyone had ever used one of these could you confirm whether the 10.5 inch long 9800gtx/gtx+ will fit in this case.
Also, can anyone suggest a cabinet that could fit the card(~3,500/- and P.S.U not needed).
P.S-I have made up my mind about buying this card.So please don't suggest ATI HD4870(I know it's more powerfull but also costs more).
 

imgame2

Padawan
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^^ *www.guru3d.com/article/physx-by-nvidia-review/3
thanks for the link...
and that should work ...but still that config is not efficient just going for PhysX.i would prefer two same cards running in SLI,i guess two 9800gtx+ would do better even on PhysX than above config......but still this is not for me ....as frankly physics calculation will get better in a year or so and more efficient than they are now ...perhaps a dual core where one works for graphics computation and other for physics computation.
 
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The Conqueror

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So which is the high end graphics card for now? 280 GTX ? what happened to 9800GTX?
 

imgame2

Padawan
Re: All Graphics Cards related queries here.

I'm thinking of getting either the Cooler Master Ammo 533 or the Centurian 534+ cabinet.If anyone had ever used one of these could you confirm whether the 10.5 inch long 9800gtx/gtx+ will fit in this case.
Also, can anyone suggest a cabinet that could fit the card(~3,500/- and P.S.U not needed).
P.S-I have made up my mind about buying this card.So please don't suggest ATI HD4870(I know it's more powerfull but also costs more).

can't compare these two cards dude !
 
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tkin

Back to school!!
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thanks for the link...
and that should work ...but still that config is not efficient just going for PhysX.i would prefer two same cards running in SLI,i guess two 9800gtx+ would do better even on PhysX than above config......but still this is not for me ....as frankly physics calculation will get better in a year or so and more efficient than they are now ...perhaps a dual core where one works for graphics computation and other for physics computation.
How about 9800GX2 ?
 

imgame2

Padawan
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How about 9800GX2 ?

i don't know if u can assign different computational load to two different cores on driver level...but if u can it will be interesting to see what result comes out.which i myself have no idea if thats possible ...
 

Psychosocial

Violent serenity.
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So which is the high end graphics card for now? 280 GTX ? what happened to 9800GTX?

9800GTX is nearly out. 9800GTX+ has taken its place. The current best performer from NVIDIA is GTX280 and the over-all best performer is ATi HD4870x2 :D.

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