Government allows up to 51% FDI in multi-brand retail, 100% in single brand

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d6bmg

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In a big move, the government on Friday cleared the proposal to allow up to 51 per cent Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in multi-brand retail. The government has allowed the FDI on the condition that states will be allowed to decide whether they want to opt for it.

Link: Government allows up to 51% FDI in multi-brand retail, 100% in single brand - The Economic Times

At last!!! This is awesome. This have the capability to bring the revolution in Indian tech market! Above all, dollar-rupee exchange get is going to come down. :p
What do you guys think?
 

theserpent

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Link: Government allows up to 51% FDI in multi-brand retail, 100% in single brand - The Economic Times

At last!!! This is awesome. This have the capability to bring the revolution in Indian tech market! Above all, dollar-rupee exchange get is going to come down. :p
What do you guys think?
I agree with you FDI is awesome
why?
amazon might(95%) enter india.
It might end up buying expensivekart:)P flippy )
India's economy might restore.
Many foregin tech companys might tie up with many smaller companines therby..reducing costs :D

but states will decide it :(.thats bad Karnataka wont get it then
 

Renny

Padawan
A much needed move to boost GDP growth.

Does the Government have the numbers to push these reforms through? Will it be suspended like the last time due to the UPA allies? Only time will tell....
 

baccilus

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Guys don't we need just one state to say yes to this because the concerned company can then simply supply stuff online? Most of the stuff we are interested in are available online anyways.
 

dashing.sujay

Moving
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So that's how poor of our country will be saved from poverty. :lol:

This.

FDI is a debate which is never going to reach on a conclusion. Its same like half of the India is BPL and still India is spending Billions on a Mars mission. :|
 

whitestar_999

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FDI in retail will be a major boost to Indian economy if implemented correctly.it will help farmers get right price for their products,remove the middleman who usually gets a major share of the price leaving farmers with little in hand(e.g.farmer sells onion to middleman at Rs.10/kg & by the time it reaches street shop vendors its price is Rs.60/kg) & help in reducing wastage.
 

whitestar_999

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those who oppose it say that it will finish off the small sellers/mom & pop shop/neighbourhood kirana store.it is basically nothing but similar to argument which was used in 1991 at the time of economic reforms(foreign companies will enslave india again like east india company,yeah right!!).
 

funskar

Padawan
we will see newegg or Fry's in India any time soon ?

Between over 6crore small shopkeeper will loss their business..
And who knows any other fdi scam comes out..
I wud say it's 50-50..
 

abhinavmail1

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Buddy u stole my words.thats extactly i want to say farmers gets high price of their produts and consumers gets cheaper produts by removing middle man from the scene
FDI in retail will be a major boost to Indian economy if implemented correctly.it will help farmers get right price for their products,remove the middleman who usually gets a major share of the price leaving farmers with little in hand(e.g.farmer sells onion to middleman at Rs.10/kg & by the time it reaches street shop vendors its price is Rs.60/kg) & help in reducing wastage.
 
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d6bmg

d6bmg

BMG ftw!!
Can some1 do the the explaining for me ??? Why it will be harmful in one way ??

Harmful in the way that the thugs related to politics or their nearest supporters who works as middleman won't get their profit. And the political parties fear for their vote which is most important to them and the reason of doing all the so called improvements..

Between over 6crore small shopkeeper will loss their business..

That's the common mis-conception which are interpreted to us by the politicians to confuse us against FDI.
 

Hrishi

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Harmful in the way that the thugs related to politics or their nearest supporters who works as middleman won't get their profit.
ahh. I see.

Well , I really don't like the policy of Middle-Man or such thugs. They might loose their jobs , but this sort of jub su*ks in a way.
Sorry , if it hurts anyone.But the middle-man thing has corrupted and looted normal people like me. If this is the only reason wy FDI is controversial , then I will end up on the other side supporting FDI .

6Crore , normal shop owners loosing their job doesn't seems true to me . Although I am very happy to read that it will help farmers , (who are probably on the verge of extinction in India due to extreme poverty ).

Let there be FDI. :) , electronic devices will become more affordable , what else do I want at this moment ?? :p

But as Funskar pointed out about the scam , it will really ruin India if something like this happens. It will be a big time scam.
 

Skud

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Will someone explain, if farmers are gonna sell at higher price how come customers will get lower price?

And middlemen will never be removed unless we eradicate illiteracy completely (some other factors are there too).
 

KDroid

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Bit long but I request you all to go through it.

The United States of America and the European Union have been seeking that India permit Foreign Direct Investment in its retail trade. India has obviously resisted the demand till date. Their object is that large international chain must control the food supply chain and the distribution of other items of daily utility in one of the world’s largest markets, which accounts for over one-sixth of world’s population.

In any trade negotiations, you seek counter-concession for concessions you grant. Increasingly, both the USA and the European Union have become more protectionists. Without extracting any concession back, we have taken a unilateral decision, gifting to their retailers the right to control the distribution network in India.

It is good to be a reformist. Traditionally, a lot of us find ourselves on the side of reforms but every change is not a reform. Changes which may end up hurting domestic interests are really counter-reforms. The time for allowing FDI in retail sector in India has still not come.

In recent years, both small and organised retails have grown. A significant investment is being made year after year. The pace at which domestic retail is growing is modest and it is able to co-exist with small retail. However, at this stage, if international retail majors are permitted the consequences will be adverse.`

The first consequence will be an adverse impact on domestic manufacturing. Domestic retailers source domestically. International retailers operate on the principle of buying internationally at the cheapest cost. Majority items to be sold by international retailers are going to be sourced from cheaper manufacturing economies like China. Clothes, shoes, toiletries and other items of daily use are not likely to bear the Indian signature. The fall in manufacturing sector jobs is likely.

India needs manufacturing sector reforms in the first instance, so as to enable us develop into low cost manufacturing economy. For this, we need to improve infrastructure, low cost utilities, competitive interest rates and trade facilitation. Once these reforms bring down the cost of our manufacturing goods, we can expect international retailers to source domestically. In the absence of these reforms, international retailers will be selling the products of low-cost economies, leading to an adverse setback to our already challenged manufacturing sector.

The character of the Indian economy is service-sector oriented. In recent times a survey by NSSO shows a loss in employment. Self-employment continues to be the largest single source of bread earning. Agriculture and retail are the largest job providers in India. Is international retail going to give additional jobs, or is it only going to displace existing jobs? If purchasing power increases with the expansion of Indian economy, it will reflect in the co-existence of structured organized domestic retail and small retail. International retailers with deeper pockets will displace existing jobs in the retail sector, rather than creating additional jobs.

A fragmented market is always in consumer interest. A consolidated market restricts the consumer choices. Thus, if the number of establishments is reduced and consumer options are eliminated, structured retail is hardly likely to serve consumer interests. It can even lead to international retailers with deeper pockets to first sell at low prices, eliminate competition and then exploit the consumers. The consequences of predatory pricing can always be felt.

The Chinese example is thoroughly misconceived. The international retailers like Walmart source their products from China, which they also sell in China and a large number of other countries. China gains hugely because its products are sold all over the world. It can hardly argue that you must source the products from China but not sell in China.

Much is being made out of the backend infrastructure like cold chains will develop only when international retailers enter India. Cold Chain is neither a rocket science nor a proprietary technology. It seems bizarre that in order to set up a chain of cold storages it can be suggested that food distribution chain of India be handed over to corporations controlled by foreign entities. The farm-gate to the factory-gate argument is based on the logic that once middlemen are eliminated, the farmer will get more and the products will become cheaper.

The only agricultural product in the domestic market, which currently follows the farm-gate to factory-gate principle, is sugarcane. If only the market forces operate without the help of a state-advised price, the cane growers would have been put to starvation. If the farmer does prosper on account of international retailers then why it is that the farmers in the USA and the EU have to be subsidized to an extent of $1 billion each day.
Foreign Direct Investment in retail cannot be introduced merely as a knee-jerk response because the government is suspected to have abandoned Economic reforms. We are not opposed either to the concept of FDI or giving an additional thrust to the reform programme. Changes which hurt the Indian economy can hardly be termed as reforms.

Every line makes sense to me.

Most importantly this

A fragmented market is always in consumer interest. A consolidated market restricts the consumer choices. Thus, if the number of establishments is reduced and consumer options are eliminated, structured retail is hardly likely to serve consumer interests. It can even lead to international retailers with deeper pockets to first sell at low prices, eliminate competition and then exploit the consumers. The consequences of predatory pricing can always be felt.

It is what Walmart does everywhere.
 
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Skud

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I wish I could give you a rep. Very few people understand the repercussions in a country like India and that too with politicians like these. Much have been said about 90s' economic reforms, but hardly a few percentage of the population have benefited from it. You and I being some of the beneficiaries is no consolation. Left wing extremism is a direct fallout of this skewed development. Govt. is already having special schemes for LWE districts, particularly among women. I wonder if they would need more such schemes in the aftermath of this decision.
 

KDroid

Cyborg Agent
The present incompetent Government brings this so-called 'reform' and the next government will get criticized for the unemployment, etc. With Money going out of India, someone please explain me how will it strengthen the economy.

All of you are only concerned with Amazon coming to India. :|

This policy will give short term benefits. Think about long-term. India is a big-big market and the MNCs are dead keen to grab it.

I am not denying any of its benefits. Rupee will strengthen. But obvious.

But it's too early to introduce FDI in India.

I wish I could give you a rep. Very few people understand the repercussions in a country like India and that too with politicians like these. Much have been said about 90s' economic reforms, but hardly a few percentage of the population have benefited from it. You and I being some of the beneficiaries is no consolation. Left wing extremism is a direct fallout of this skewed development. Govt. is already having special schemes for LWE districts, particularly among women. I wonder if they would need more such schemes in the aftermath of this decision.

Exactly.

I agree with you FDI is awesome
why?
amazon might(95%) enter india.
It might end up buying expensivekart:)P flippy )
India's economy might restore.
Many foregin tech companys might tie up with many smaller companines therby..reducing costs :D

but states will decide it :(.thats bad Karnataka wont get it then

What on earth makes you think that Flipkart will sell itself?
 
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